People need to learn how to speak English in America.

Calvin said:
But the difference is that you're wrong.
No, you are naive. Expecting someone me to learn their language and not expecting them to learn mine?? Very naive.
 
You know what? Fine!!! Whenever someone moves to a new country where they don't speak the language of the people who already live there, you're all right!!! It is NOT their responsibility to learn the language of their new homeland, but the responsibility of the people who ALREADY live there to learn the language of each and every new immigrant. That makes perfect sence. An entire country must adapt to a few people who decide to move there!!
 
the way things are these days most spanish phrases white people have to translate are.....no vacation....no benefits....clean this when your done with that....the garden needs watering....and only a few others. and just for all you whitees that think we talk about you when we speak spanish in front of you, we are... maybe if you werent stuck in the 1950s you might want to learn a few comebacks in spanish. and i say spanish because thats what the main problem is right? Mexicans?? America is a melting pot of culture and diversity and the promotion of educating ourselves in multiple languages is all beneficial. there is no denying that america is changing and that english is slowly becoming a fusion of spanish, and other european tongues. i know what the problem is...white people are scared of becoming the new ni**er...
 
muertevilla said:
the way things are these days most spanish phrases white people have to translate are.....no vacation....no benefits....clean this when your done with that....the garden needs watering....and only a few others. and just for all you whitees that think we talk about you when we speak spanish in front of you, we are... maybe if you werent stuck in the 1950s you might want to learn a few comebacks in spanish. and i say spanish because thats what the main problem is right? Mexicans?? America is a melting pot of culture and diversity and the promotion of educating ourselves in multiple languages is all beneficial. there is no denying that america is changing and that english is slowly becoming a fusion of spanish, and other european tongues. i know what the problem is...white people are scared of becoming the new ni**er...
I see you support the theory of, "An entire country must adapt to a few people who decide to move there." And it truely offends me, when I have people who want to do business with me, but refuse to speak my language. They come to me, and expect me to speak Spanish for them. They make no effort to speak English. Most of them just sit there, nod, and smile, as if giving the impression they are understanding, then when they give me a yes/no answer when I ask how old their kid is, I find out they don't speak English. And you're right, it's Mexicans. I have yet to meet anyone from any other country that does not at least make an effort to speak English or at least tell me upfront, that they don't speak English. No one has ever asked me to speak Hindi, German, French, any one of the many African languages. I have no problem with people immigrating to this country. And you're right, that this country is a melting pot. But why is it you don't feel that Mexicans need to melt a bit?? Why should the people who are already here be the only one's doing the melting???
 
I'm amazed of so many thoughts that we as Americans are the ones who should compromise :huh:
 
Immortalfire said:
I'm amazed of so many thoughts that we as Americans are the ones who should compromise :huh:
It amazes me as well.:whatever:
 
Calvin said:
God forbid an american ever take a great opportunity to expand his mind.

Being closed-minded is part of what makes this country great! :p :D

Most immigrants make an effort to speak the language, and I respect them for that. When I went to Paris a few years ago, I made the effort to speak French. I wasn't very good at it, but I tried, and I could tell that the locals respected my effort.

When I went to Tanzania a few months ago, I read up on some Swahili phrases and used them whenever I could. Likewise, the effort was appreciated.

So more Americans need to be more appreciative of the effort immigrants are putting in to learning our language. Because they ARE trying. So quit *****ing because they're not so good at it.
 
Cyclops said:
Being closed-minded is part of what makes this country great! :p :D

Most immigrants make an effort to speak the language, and I respect them for that. When I went to Paris a few years ago, I made the effort to speak French. I wasn't very good at it, but I tried, and I could tell that the locals respected my effort.

When I went to Tanzania a few months ago, I read up on some Swahili phrases and used them whenever I could. Likewise, the effort was appreciated.

So more Americans need to be more appreciative of the effort immigrants are putting in to learning our language. Because they ARE trying. So quit *****ing because they're not so good at it.
You're partly right. Most immigrants do make an effort. Mexicansseem to be the one group that does not. And I speak from a great deal of personal experience.
 
I know plenty of Mexicans who do make the effort. More than those who don't.

And you've got to understand, English is a hard language to learn. Its grammatical rules don't make a whole lot of sense, spelling is a nightmare, prononciations are difficult, when coming from a language that is the complete opposite of that, with oftentimes nothing more than the clothes on your back when you cross that border, the opportunity to learn the language gets very difficult.

What I have noticed is that Mexican immigrants who don't speak English are mostly elderly or at least later-middle-aged. And at that point in life, it is almost impossible to indoctrinate to a new language. The brain just isn't as receptive to it as it is when it's younger.
 
Cyclops said:
I know plenty of Mexicans who do make the effort. More than those who don't.

And you've got to understand, English is a hard language to learn. Its grammatical rules don't make a whole lot of sense, spelling is a nightmare, prononciations are difficult, when coming from a language that is the complete opposite of that, with oftentimes nothing more than the clothes on your back when you cross that border, the opportunity to learn the language gets very difficult.

What I have noticed is that Mexican immigrants who don't speak English are mostly elderly or at least later-middle-aged. And at that point in life, it is almost impossible to indoctrinate to a new language. The brain just isn't as receptive to it as it is when it's younger.
Ever live in a border city?? I'm thinking you haven't. On the border, most do not learn English. It's just easier for them. But the point of this thread is, should immigrants be required to learn English?? I believe Canada requires immigrants to learn French to an extent.
 
I live near Houston, where there are plenty of immigrants.

As for the requirement, yes, I do believe immigrants should learn to speak English. And I believe that for the most part, they try to at least have a rudimentary command of the language. It's just so much harder to learn than any other language.

And to be fair, you don't know if they try or not. It's possible that they don't bother, but it's also possible that they do and they just can't get it.
 
Mal'Akai said:
Ever live in a border city?? I'm thinking you haven't. On the border, most do not learn English. It's just easier for them. But the point of this thread is, should immigrants be required to learn English?? I believe Canada requires immigrants to learn French to an extent.
what?


in some provinces, we learn french as part of our school curriculum. immigrants who are over school-age have absolutely no obligation to learn any language.
 
Mal'Akai said:
You know what? Fine!!! Whenever someone moves to a new country where they don't speak the language of the people who already live there, you're all right!!! It is NOT their responsibility to learn the language of their new homeland, but the responsibility of the people who ALREADY live there to learn the language of each and every new immigrant. That makes perfect sence. An entire country must adapt to a few people who decide to move there!!
http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1362288
 
Mal'Akai said:
Ever live in a border city?? I'm thinking you haven't. On the border, most do not learn English. It's just easier for them. But the point of this thread is, should immigrants be required to learn English?? I believe Canada requires immigrants to learn French to an extent.


you're an idiot , I LIVE IN A BORDER CITY, and there are far more Mexicans that know how to speak and write in english than there are people in the U.S. that can speak or write in Spanish.

you're an Idiot.:o
 
Mal'Akai said:
You're partly right. Most immigrants do make an effort. Mexicansseem to be the one group that does not. And I speak from a great deal of personal experience.

:whatever: I wonder how you know they are Mexican.
god, you're a freaking idiot.
 
Mr Sparkle said:
you're an idiot , I LIVE IN A BORDER CITY, and there are far more Mexicans that know how to speak and write in english than there are people in the U.S. that can speak or write in Spanish.

you're an Idiot.:o

LEARN EHT ENGRISH ALREDDY!!!:mad:
 
Majority of Mexicans and Black do not want an education--it's simple as that. Why the f**k do we have to be a slave to a white man's system? That's how majority of the poor community (the ghetto) think of themselves and others.

:down
 
This thread is utter nonsense.

Why don't all of us speak in Spanish?

I'm wondering, if everyone speaks Spanish, and there was not a hint of English, would the moderators close or delete the threads... I have a funny feeling the moderators would be called racists. And if they are--are they really racists? Hmm...

It'd be very interesting to try this one out.
 
HellOnEarth said:
Majority of Mexicans and Black do not want an education--it's simple as that. Why the f**k do we have to be a slave to a white man's system? That's how majority of the poor community (the ghetto) think of themselves and others.

:down
Um... no.
 
I have a serious (and very grave) question:

What about the children who are born and raised in America?

Should they be forced to learn English? To have this white man's tongue rammed in our throat?

It's like this--if you wanna be rich in White America, get an education; if you wanna be poor, don't. 50% of the high schoolers seems they want to be poor--because 50 of them drop out of high school. :down
 
Sloth7d said:
Um... no.

umm yes. you don't live in ghetto. do you live in the ghetto? do you know the mentaility of the poor community? no. cause you don't live in ghetto: i have.
 
HellOnEarth said:
umm yes. you don't live in ghetto. do you live in the ghetto? do you know the mentaility of the poor community? no. cause you don't live in ghetto: i have.
You shouldn't assume things about people. I lived in a project area a while back and even now I'm in a majority black area.
So, I rebut by saying um... no. Thats not why some kids don't go to school. Atleast thats not why most of them don't anyway.
 

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