Possible Best Picture Nominees

[Ultimatehero]

There's threads for all of these films. Basically what your're saying is that this thread is useless.

How is that so? Unless the thread was just to LIST movies rather than talking about possible nominees? It has yet to wander off topic.

 

[CConn]

My POINT is that LOTS of films are heartfelt.

To me I'd say that moment in AVENGERS is Caulson's death. Here we are throughout the whole film enjoying seeing these guys fight. Enjoying seeing them bicker. Seeing good guys bicker. Pessimism winning out. But, when Couslon dies - I think that moment hits the audience just as much as it hits the characters. Not because we got to know him (but that too). But because of what Coulson stood for - he stood for optimism in a dying time. He believed that heroes and that good could still exist, and here we were before enjoying seeing that get torn apart and having a good laugh at it only to be hit in the face. I'd say it had an impact not just because of Coulson, but because of the importance of his beliefs and outlook that we lost in this world and that we do need to continue going at it as we should be.

As for politics, I don't know... I'd say the whole "you're a people meant to be ruled, and unset without a ruler" was pretty spot on and a harsh criticism to make.

BASICALLY I'm saying if you look, you can find those things in pretty much every film.

GRANTED The Avengers was more SOCIOLOGICAL than POLITICAL.

I'm sorry, but I just don't think you have any clue what you're talking.

Honestly, I never really do. Your logic is as scattered and as poorly structured as a piece of Ikea furniture assembled by someone with Phocomelia.

 

[Ultimatehero]

And you can't come up with a rebuttal which speaks a lot about you.

I'm still waiting. If you have a rebuttal make it.

TOY STORY 3 is as sentimental as MANY other films out there - it's not an "overly sentimental" film.

.... and I'm still waiting on what makes that film so "sentimental" over many others.

To me when someone resorts to name calling rather than offering a rebuttal, it just shows they have no ideas of their own or can't come up with one and are trying to beat around the bush - or in LAMEN terms - attempt to avoid it altogether.

So, what is so "overly sentimental" about Toy Story 3 that sets it up as an "overly sentimental" film rather than just a film that had some sad moments mixed in (like MANY other films)?

 

[Rocketman]

The Best Picture win is pretty much a battle between Lincoln and Les Miserables, in my opinion. It will be one of those two. If I had to put money on it now, I'd say Lincoln is the winner.

Best Actor:
Daniel Day-Lewis - WINNER
Joaquin Phoenix
Philip Seymour Hoffman

Best Actress:
Anne Hathaway - Les Miserables - WINNER

Best Supporting Actor:
Tommy Lee Jones - Lincoln - WINNER

I genuinely believe that these four awards are a certainty.

 

[CConn]

I'm betting Les Miserables, myself.

I feel like The Great Gatsby could be either really good, or really awful.

 

[Ultimatehero]

In case of mentioning other arenas, would anyone else be disappointed if SKYFALL doesn't get cinematography? Granted this might change on what else comes... but some of those shots were utterly beautiful in a very classic old school sort of way.

 

[CConn]

And you can't come up with a rebuttal which speaks a lot about you.

Not really. What's the point of offering a rebuttle if I know it'll go right over your head? I'll save my time and thought for more worthwhile conversations.

 

[Ultimatehero]

And once again, avoiding the question... I mean, I seriously can't be the only one who's noticed when people can't come up with a rebuttal they resort to name calling in an attempt to avoid it? Or do those who resort to that seriously think they're fooling anyone?

Once again, please be an adult and offer a rebuttal none of this childishness. Aren't we above that?

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Not really. What's the point of offering a rebuttle if I know it'll go right over your head? I'll save my time and thought for more worthwhile conversations.

Wow...

 

[Ultimatehero]

Wow...

Not that surprising lol. It seems like ever since I came forward about where I am in the film industry, she's had it out for me lol. I've gotten used to it coming from her. (Sorry if incorrect usage- him?) Plus, as said, it's a used and tired tactic.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I've just literally never seen anyone be so condescending on this forum before. Especially when what you said was a perfectly intelligent and well thought out post. (p.s. I'm pretty sure CCon is a he).

 

[Laderlappen]

The Best Picture win is pretty much a battle between Lincoln and Les Miserables, in my opinion. It will be one of those two. If I had to put money on it now, I'd say Lincoln is the winner.

Best Actor:
Daniel Day-Lewis - WINNER
Joaquin Phoenix
Philip Seymour Hoffman

Best Actress:
Anne Hathaway - Les Miserables - WINNER

Best Supporting Actor:
Tommy Lee Jones - Lincoln - WINNER

I genuinely believe that these four awards are a certainty.

Anne is supporting. She has like 20 minutes of screentime or something.

 

[redhawk23]

By the way CCon you mentioned Gatsby, but that doesn't come out until next summer.

 

[Sentinel X]

I was one of those people who lost respect for the oscars after they didnt nominate The Dark Knight for best picture because it was a "superhero" movie. Now, I will lose even more respect for them if they nominate The Dark Knight Rises for best picture. There was nothing particularly special about it, it is not an oscar worthy film. Where as TDK was. Hopefully they move on, better films have been snubbed in the past. Its not the end of the world.

Honestly, nothing in 2012 truly wowed me. My favorite movie is Cloud Atlas as of yet but I know its an either you love it or hate it situation with the critics so thats out. Although Silver linings, Zero Dark Thirty, and Life of Pi look like they can be really good movies.

 

[Lobo]

My Guesses for Now are

Lincoln
The Hobbit
Argo
Lawless
The Master

Not sure of the other five yet.

 

[Laderlappen]

My Guesses for Now are

Lincoln
The Hobbit
Argo
Lawless
The Master

Not sure of the other five yet.

Lawless?

 

[Pink Ranger]

I find The Master somewhat overrated; I hope something else wins BP.

 

[redhawk23]

It's likely to be divisive due to the subject matter and tone, but I expect Django Unchained to shake up many Oscar discussions.

 

[DACrowe]

Frontrunners:
Silver Lining Playbook (Harvey's big push, it will be a frontrunner)
Les Miserables
Argo
Lincoln

Locks for nomination:
The Master
Zero Dark Thirty
Moonrise Kingdom

Hopefuls for the potential 3 remaining spots:
Life of Pi
The Hobbit
Django Unchained
Flight
Beasts of the Southern Wild
Anna Karennina

Long Shots trying to sneak in:
The Dark Knight Rises
The Sessions

My estimations. Once we are past the holiday releases, we will have a better idea.

 

[DACrowe]

The Avengers was LOVED by critics at 92% (higher than other potential nominees), it was the highest grossing film of the year at box office, it represents a completion of a 6 film arc (the FIRST time such a thing has even been achieved - the academy has always loved innovators), AND it being the top film of the year with the masses would lead into the ratings increasing (which is why the Academy started to branch off in the first place - it started losing interest to the masses).

1. The Academy cares little for what critics say. And the most crowd-pleasing film does not mean it was the most enthusiastically endorsed film of the year (thus far, that'd probably be Argo)

2. The Academy cares even less for box office. It used to matter, now it only helps if it is for a filmmaker they already like. It is why a James Cameron box office hit can get nominated while Nolan's probably won't and why Spielberg never got nominated until he made a Holocaust picture.

3. The Academy won't go for a film they think is the cinematic equivalent of fast food.

I liked The Avengers, but honestly I do not think it should be nominated.

 

[Spideyfan93]

An ant has a better chance of living through a human stomp with army boots, then Avengers has at being a Best Picture nominee.

I love Avengers to death, but no ****ing way.

 

[Lord]

I don't think Avengers was Oscar material.

 

[Pond]

Quality wise, Avengers deserves any award it could get, but based on the absolute crap concept of "oscarness" this particular awards have, i doubt it will.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I kind of like the idea that Avengers won't be Oscar nominated (which it isn't worthy of anyway, IMO). The makers of the Marvel movies can just focus on making solid, entertaining stories, instead of trying to win critical acclaim.

 

[Ultimatehero]

As said, I have yet to see how "the academy thinks this way and this way only" applies to the below:

Inception
Toy Story 3
Raiders of the Lost Ark (which 'Avengers' has been likened to)
The Silence of the Lambs
E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial
Fellowship of the Rings
The Two Towers
Return of the King
The Fugitive
Pulp Fiction
The Full Monty
Toosie
Babe (yes, the movie with the pig)
Up
Beauty and the Beast

The only ruse really seems to be that there are rules.

As to Avengers not 'deserving it' - it's gotten greater reviews by critics than some of the other "possible" contenders and many of the nominees in the past years, so critically - it IS a better made film. I'm not talking one's personal opinion here - like or not like it, fine - I'm talking consensus across the board. As to it's genre, well, that's why I re-posted the titles above. The ONLY other superhero film made in recent years that did deserve it was The Dark Knight, and then The Dark Knight Rises. Other than that - Avengers. They've been mostly fan oriented movies, then Nolan followed by Whedon upped the ante. Nolan with a darker take. Whedon with the more classical adventure way (which hasn't been done to this level of quality in a long time). So what's so "undeserving" about it? The fact that it has a higher critic mark than some of these other films and past year nominees or that it's a "superhero" film which WOULD be the equivalent of "it's animated!" "it's a police procedural!" "it's a movie about baseball (believe it or not)!" "it's a pulp action film!" "it's about a talking pig!" So, what exactly sets it apart?

ADDING - "it's a movie about baseball" isn't concerning Moneyball, rather Field Of Dreams since baseball was considered taboo back then for whatever reason.