Power Levels

[The Batman]

I would much rather correct other people's.

Oh, ok...

 

[hippie_hunter]

Superman

*Strongest hero bar none

*Hell, All Star level powerful, except remove the invulnerability to kryptonite and the added powers.

*Not as fast as Flash

Batman

*Peak Human strength

*Best Tactician in the DCU

No Deathstroke is the DC Universe's best tactician

*Best Detective in the DCU

*One of the top five fighters

*Overall, one of, if not the smartest DCU hero.

Wonder Woman

*Strongest woman in the DCU, tied with Captain Marvel for second strongest in the DCU

No, the Martian Manhunter is the second strongest in the DC Universe after Superman.

*Second to Batman in tactics and fighting

The Flash

*Fastest Man in the DCU. Can vibrate through walls, steal anyone's speed

Green Lantern

*Green Lantern ring is one of the most dangerous weapons in the universe

*Hal Jordan and Alan Scott are the only GL's who could possibly take Superman in a fight.

Kyle Rayner is the most powerful Green Lantern considering that he has returned to being Ion.

*If a GL is skilled enough, they can create kryptonite.

Thats just dumb, kryptonite radiation but not the actual element.

Fixed

 

[hippie_hunter]

Geniuses

*Science Field: Atom, Lex Luthor, and Mr. Terrific

*Technology Field: Steel and Mr.Terrific

*Tactical Field: Batman

*Detective Field: Batman

*Overall: Batman or Mr.Terrific

Batman is definetly in there with the science and technology field. He has invented a lot of crap and is good in science.

 

[The Batman]

I consider kyle in a category all his own...IMO, Ion is the next step after a GL....

 

[The Batman]

Batman is definetly in there with the science and technology field. He has invented a lot of crap and is good in science.

I only listed who might be the absolute best in that field.

 

[Varient]

hmmmn. The only true bone is Wally west,..............and the silly idea that batman is a better fighter than WW.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

As far as GLs go, I'd have them be like dis right nyah:

1. Alan Scott
2. Hal Jordan/Kyle Rayner (as a GL, naturally, not Ion)
3. Kilowog
4. John Stewart
5. Guy Gardner

 

[hippie_hunter]

hmmmn. The only true bone is Wally west,..............and the silly idea that batman is a better fighter than WW.

Wonder Woman is a better warrior than Batman, just like Hawkman, but Batman is the better martial artist and strategist.

 

[RockSP]

I've never collected Wonder Woman's solo book so...hasn't she been a warrior(ess) for centuries? If so, how can Batman be better than her? One of the silliest moments from Kelly's run IMO was the sparring session between Bats and Wondy. How the #$% could Bats ever hope to keep up with her (unless she was just "playing" with him)?

 

[Lackey]

Wonder Woman is a better warrior than Batman, just like Hawkman, but Batman is the better martial artist and strategist.

I disagree.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I think Batman would be a better fighter than Wonder Woman because it's all he has. He can't just throw someone into orbit if he can't outfight them, so he works harder to make sure he can outfight almost anyone. Plus, Wonder Woman hasn't trained in the same martial arts Batman has. Studying Greek forms of fighting for centuries doesn't automatically make her better than Batman if the forms Batman knows are just more effective. A master of judo could probably throw a master of Greek wrestling around pretty easily, for example.

That said, Wonder Woman should still be the second-best fighter on the League. Her fighting skills should be enough to make up for whatever strength differential there is between her and Supes, so that a fight between the two of them would basically be an even match. That's my take on it, anyway.

 

[Lackey]

I think Batman would be a better fighter than Wonder Woman because it's all he has. He can't just throw someone into orbit if he can't outfight them, so he works harder to make sure he can outfight almost anyone. Plus, Wonder Woman hasn't trained in the same martial arts Batman has. Studying Greek forms of fighting for centuries doesn't automatically make her better than Batman if the forms Batman knows are just more effective. A master of judo could probably throw a master of Greek wrestling around pretty easily, for example.

That said, Wonder Woman should still be the second-best fighter on the League. Her fighting skills should be enough to make up for whatever strength differential there is between her and Supes, so that a fight between the two of them would basically be an even match. That's my take on it, anyway.

I'd agree with you if Batman was the best fighter in the DCU (similarly to Flash being the fastest), but he's not...so it's not all he has because he doesn't even have that.

Also, it's not like all she knows is ancient combat...although that is a plus on her side, Amazons practice forms of ancient hand-to-hand combat that are completely lost to the outside world. She is proficient in many forms of modern hand-to-hand combat including extra-terrestrial forms. She has trained since she was a small child and has proven the best amongst an entire race of warriors. Other heroes including Batman have taken upon themselves to train with her.

 

[Vanguard07]

You know what always kinda bugged me in terms of Power levels? Orion's strength.
He supposedly had the strength of Darkseid and has fought Darkseid in hand to hand and beaten him but he's listed as being weaker than superman and roughly equal to Wonder Woman.
Maybe you guys disagree but to me that just plain doesnt seem right. He should be stronger than Superman.

 

[Anubis]

I was just about to comment on Orion. He should be far stronger than Superman. Expecially without the Mother Box to keep him in line. And Darkseid should be at Pre Crisis levels again.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Strength

Top three in order is..Superman,Wonder Woman and Captian Marvel.Power Girl distant 4th.

Speed

Hard choice,The Flash should be the fastest.Superman barely comes in 2nd.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

You know what always kinda bugged me in terms of Power levels? Orion's strength.
He supposedly had the strength of Darkseid and has fought Darkseid in hand to hand and beaten him but he's listed as being weaker than superman and roughly equal to Wonder Woman.
Maybe you guys disagree but to me that just plain doesnt seem right. He should be stronger than Superman.

I agree completely. He also shouldn't be an idiot, like he was when he and Barda joined the JLA in preparation for Mageddon's attack. When the JLA fought General Eiling, the new Shaggy Man, Orion got tossed aside like a little girl. His dog managed to hold Eiling off longer than he did.

 

[batnkevlar]

Superman should be significantly slower than Flash...

No way Connor Hawke should be better at fighting than Batman...

Uh, Mr. Terrific and Batman should be two of the smartest (overall) guys in the world, but Batman in more tactical, and Terrific on more science...

 

[Spike_x1]

The technologically smartest human on the DCU's earth should be Emil Hamilton. Before being screwed into Ruin, Hamilton came up with some of the most brilliant machines ever, putting Steel and Batman's gizmos to shame.

All in his crappy apartment/lab.

And I agree with the above posters about Orion too.

 

[Kenda Man]

What power level should Black Adam be in? Would he be considered equal to Captain Marvel's strength even though he gets his powers from other deities? I forget what issue it was, but it was in the past months in Action Comics, where Superman fought Black Adam briefly. I thought that was great and I really think Captain Marvel should be as close to superman's power level as possible, with the exception of heat vision and the few other abilities superman has.

I think I read it awhile ago on the forums someone mentioned a comparison of Superman and Captain MArvel when each first appeared and their similarities. I think its cool Superman has krypto as a pet, Captain MArvel with Hoppy the the Bunny, Superman having a family;Supergirl, powergirl, MArvel having Mary, Uncle Marvel, and Marvel Jr. Lex once having hair now bald, and Dr. Sivana being a bald. Kingdom Come also showed that Captain MArvel can go toe to toe with Superman.

I thought the Justice League Unlimited episode was a good depiction of Captain Marvel, but no way should they have made Superman wail away on Marvel and what bugged me most was that Captain Marvel bruised eye from superman. I am grateful though it showed Marvel could take superman's punch, which would make any human's head instantly explode. I will give credit where credit is due in that Superman pretty much became the mold for all other super heros, but Marvel should be up there too. Sorry for ranting about Captain Marvel and Superman.

 

[Anubis]

Thats okay. You make a good point. The big red Cheese should be very close to Supes in strength. Possibly a little stronger than Wonder Woman.

 

[CAPT. MARVEL]

Basically, I like everyone de-powered. i.e. I like Superman to be like the old Fleischer cartoons, but I also feel like he should be the strongest and greatest hero in the DCU, so everyone else would have to be de-powered as well.

 

[Anubis]

Weak sauce man.

 

[drastic_quench]

My thoughts on what Superman's fighting style/ability should be:

Superman fights like a big ole' country hoss. Farmboy whose never had a boxing lesson, but's tough as hell anyhow. He throws big ugly haymakers. That overhand double axe handle blow he killed Doomsday with? Yeah, just like that. He's not fluid. It's not pretty. He's not particularly flexible. He moves and fights like John Wayne with a sore back - and heat vision is his six-shooter.

Of course he gets away with the slop because he's so strong and fast. His only "training" is his years of on the job experience.

 

[Anubis]

Nice

 

[Marvin]

Actually, that was excellent!