Predict the final rottentomatoes rating

[blind_fury]

Will it score better than SM3? (over 61%)

How about FF2? (over 38%)

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/

 

[Majik1387]

I'll say it will get around 87% positive

 

[Tempest19]

Around SM3, if not perhaps better.

 

[Loathus]

I'll say 64% positive

 

[The Kid]

I'm guessing somewhere in the 90s or 80s.

 

[blind_fury]

55%

rotten

 

[CFlash]

Based solely on Michael Bay's past track record with rottentomatoes I say 40% or less. Steven Spielberg's influence as producer is a wildcard though. We'll see.

 

[The Kid]

55%

rotten

Yeah, that rottent tomatoe would really suck for a transformers movie wouldn't it, fury.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_the_the_movie/

 

[blind_fury]

Yeah, that rottent tomatoe would really suck for a transformers movie wouldn't it, fury.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_the_the_movie/

haha! That rating is higher than the average Micheal Bay movie.

All of them except for the Rock.

lolz.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

75-80% mainly due to the amazing special effects, the passable storyline and script and the unique plot.

 

[blind_fury]

The Rock is the highest rated Micheal Bay movie with 63%.

none of his other movies got over 44%.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

The Rock is the highest rated Micheal Bay movie with 63%.

none of his other movies got over 44%.

This movie is significantly different enough from anything else made in the last decade that it will suceed pretty much everything else. Plus the comic adaptation is surprisingly good, and the initial reviews are overwhelmingly positive.

 

[blind_fury]

75-80% mainly due to the amazing special effects, the passable storyline and script and the unique plot.

It takes more than this to get an 80% unfortunately.

 

[The Kid]

haha! That rating is higher than the average Micheal Bay movie.

All of them except for the Rock.

lolz.

I've never seen the rock, but heh, I guess bay can make a fresh movie by the tomatoes standards. wooo that puts a thorn in your side doesn't it...

 

[Danger Mouse]

Rottentomatoes would probably give it a 65-70%.

I'd probably give it an 80-90%. *shrugs*

 

[ShadowBoxing]

It takes more than this to get an 80% unfortunately.

Not really. 80% is only how many reviews were positive (meaning someone could have given it 5.5 out of 10 stars or more), then you have an adjusted score below it. So movies like X2 and Ocean's Eleven get 80% (O12 got an adjusted score of 6.9/10), but so do movies like Walk the Line.

 

[DOG LIPS]

I think 60%-70%.

 

[blind_fury]

I've never seen the rock, but heh, I guess bay can make a fresh movie by the tomatoes standards. wooo that puts a thorn in your side doesn't it...

lolz.

keep ignoring the fact that out of six Micheal Bay movies, only one got better than Transformers the animated movie. His first movie was the only one to get a better rating than a 1984 children's movie with robots dancing to Dare to be Stupid.

hahaha!

 

[ShadowBoxing]

The book and comic both read nicely. Moreover critics aren't going to give to sh** about half the stuff we whine about, especially stuff like "it's not like the show/'86 movie" which critics never held in that high regard to begin with.

And the movie has a lot of momentum, and furthermore it's a first installment, not a third film which is what the critics have been pounding so hard this movie season. So I think it significantly different enough that it will get a by.

 

[Stringer]

65-70% which is actually pretty good on RT.

 

[blind_fury]

The book and comic both read nicely. Moreover critics aren't going to give to sh** about half the stuff we whine about, especially stuff like "it's not like the show/'86 movie" which critics never held in that high regard to begin with.

The problem is Bayformers doesn't elevate the source material. So the changes will not help the movie. Critics will probably "whine" about the bad dialogue, lazy storytelling, campy acting, tired cliches, and forgettable characters.

Critics usually don't fall for the big loud explosions and pretty colors that your typical Micheal Bay fan drools over. They actually expect more from movies.

Even escapist movies need to have good dialogue and memorable characters/story to be well regarded by film critics.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

The problem is Bayformers doesn't elevate the source material. So the changes will not help the movie. Critics will probably "whine" about the bad dialogue, lazy storytelling, campy acting, tired cliches, and forgettable characters.

After reading the book it's not nearly as bad as we've been making it out to be. The dialogue and story is lightyears ahead of Spider-Man 3 which got 61%. The acting, I've heard, actually is pretty good (they have a talented cast, none of those guys qualify as campy with the exception of AA, who is supposed to be). Tired cliche's, mayyybbbeee, but it's nothing worse than X2 in that regard. They aren't as overt as I thought. As for forgetable...it's going to be hard to forget a movie about giant robots, sorry.

All it has to do is elevate beyond Spider-Man 3 and 70-80% will be easy. As for elevating the source material. It does, not that it's all that hard. All it's adapting is a glorified toy commercial with bad dialogue, lazy storytelling, and campy moments. And the only thing memorable about that show was it's characters, which this has, and has voiced casted Optimus with Peter Cullen who made that show.

It'll do juuusssst fine...people said the same thing about Beast Wars.

 

[blind_fury]

As for elevating the source material. It does,

I disagree.

Transformers doesn't have millions of life-long fans simply because of loud explosions and pretty colors. Which is the only thing that Micheal Bay gets somewhat right.

 

[xwolverine2]

85%

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I disagree.

Transformers doesn't have millions of life-long fans simply because of loud explosions and pretty colors. Which is the only thing that Micheal Bay gets somewhat right.

Transformers didn't develop lifelong fans until Beast Wars finally took the franchise somewhere halfway intelligent. If you don't remember, let me refresh. G1 was cancelled for 3 whole years before G2 tried unsuccessfully to bring it back for a year and a half. The show lasted a TOTAL of three years, a fell to competition like Ninja Turtles and G.I.Joe which turned out to be far more lucritive initially. Most people don't remember the G1 show outside of "Red truck guy" and "gun evil guy", the movie itself made 3 million dollars TOTAL, and the movie was widely panned by critics and moviegoers alike. The reason Transformers was successful was because the gimmick of their toyline was repeatable and marketable enough that it solidified a desire in the marketplace for it's continuation. Optimus Prime is arguably also in part reasponsible, however we have him, as voiced by Cullen in the film, so no problems there.

And Transformers doesn't have "millions" of lifelong fans...the most people on any TF related messageboard is about 18,000. I've been to BOTCON, it's a lot for a pocket franchise, but it's not anywhere near millions.