Prometheus - Part 4

[The Morningstar]

The guy has got to be screwing around. He just has to be! lol

 

[antsman41]

Airwings is James Cameron...

 

[Airwings]

Listen, he only mentioned the light bulb.

 

[Gold Samurai]

High tech science team with good intentions

Goners

Space truckers

Goners

 

[Matt Mortem]

Listen, he only mentioned the light bulb.

Good God. You have to be trolling. First off, what does that have to do with anything Prometheus related? Second off, he's not going to list every damned thing that was invented during that time period. His entire speech was to highlight how quickly technological advancements are happening in the last 100 years or so. Either your trolling this thread or you're reading so far into every little thing about this film that it's reaching the point of pure absurdity.

 

[The Morningstar]

Listen, he only mentioned the light bulb.

What other remarkable scientific discoveries were made in the 1800s then?

 

[craigdbfan]

High tech science team with good intentions

Goners

Space truckers

Goners

Space Marines

Goners

Added a little bit to that.

 

[redhawk23]

http://www.*****************.com/scifi/prometheus-latest-scifi-legacy-doomed-starships.html Kind of funny, a list of doomed starships named Prometheus from other shows and movies.

 

[Airwings]

Why am I messing around when I write about different ways to tell a sci fi version of a titan?
Do you guys feel so offended when I don't praise everything Ridley Scott does? You truly worship him and NOBODY is allowed to talk him down, right?

Camera, typewriter, refrigerator, telephone, dynamite, radar, plastic etc etc were all made during the 1800s.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

What you say is true, but it still boils down to what I said. Which i don't agree with. I think the whole global warming thing is a cycle of nature and that humans have no little to no effect on it. When a volcano erupts it spews more damaging gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race combined.

That's up for debate, I suppose. I believe it's a mixture of both Earth's cycles and Man's manifestation. In fact, 30-50 years now, our resources could be severely depleted -- and humans played a major part in it.

 

[dark_b]

I'm glad that Scott touched on the whole CGI is "less expensive" to use myth. Having the actors perform in an entirely blue screen vacuum as he put it is counter productive in both the sense that the actors barely have a substantial reference to hold onto when they're acting and the repair bill for reanimating and changing things during post can sometimes overflow into a ridiculous amount.

Having sets and tangible locations definitely is the wiser move in the long run with using CGI as a means to enhance what you otherwise can't physically achieve. "sensible" school as Ridley so perfectly put it is the best method.

If you think about all the movies that have gone far too over budget they're the ones that have being too overly reliant on CGI.

the thing is that Ridley almost always goes over budget. with the big scale movies i think he always does.

about the sets are less expensive comment. context. its only less expensive for interior sets. for example Alien and Promethues are fantastic examples where you should build sets. and of course if the alien planet looks like earth then use real locations. but when you have something that is bigger than a building or skyscraper its less expensive to use CGI then to build it.

lets put it that way.for the space jockey room its less expensive to use sets. for the alien flying ship its less expensive to use CGI.
if you have a waterfall that looks like something from our planet its less expensive to film on location. if you have a big multiple castle's(robin hood,kingdom of heaven) that doesnt exist on our planet its less expensive to use CGI.

i agree with Ridley Scott because i know what he meant.

but when it comes to budgets he is the opposite of Chris Nolan. t:

 

[The Morningstar]

It's nothing to do with you bad mouthing Scott. It's to do with you being a donut. Thinking the film is called Prometheus simply because the ship they travel in is called Prometheus.

****, even Serenity, an action film, had more to it than the ship being called Serenity.

And again, Weyland isn't going to list every single discovery made.

 

[SpitCurl]

It's weird to me that the media narrative is still "is it/isn't it a prequel". The concept seems simple enough at this point (playing around in the same universe to tell a different story, with some connective tissue to the first films).

It's like these people need for it to be confusing and odd because it's the angle they like playing up. Let it go, guys. Let it go.

 

[redhawk23]

What you say is true, but it still boils down to what I said. Which i don't agree with. I think the whole global warming thing is a cycle of nature and that humans have no little to no effect on it. When a volcano erupts it spews more damaging gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race combined.

Greenhouse gasses aren't the only problems of polution. There is way worse damage to the environment (AND OUR SELVES!) from all the chemicals we spew into the soil, air and water, not to mention we routinely destroy entire ecosystems.

Also yes, volcanoes do put a lot of crap in the air, but your are assuming they are inherently harmful. The chemcicals from volcanoes act as an important part of natural fertilizer. The artificial compounds we create and dump, not to mention our mountains of physical trash on the other hand do not breakdown into anything useful.

 

[The Morningstar]

That's up for debate, I suppose. I believe it's a mixture of both Earth's cycles and Man's manifestation. In fact, 30-50 years now, our resources could be severely depleted -- and humans played a major part in it.

True. But I imagine that we won't be using fossil fuels to power our cars, boats, planes etc in the next 30 years.

 

[Airwings]

No I am not thinking the film's name is because of the ship. I am saying that calling the ship Prometheus is not the best way to go.

 

[terry78]

Madagascar is opening up against this, so we'll see how it fares.

 

[dark_b]

It's weird to me that the media narrative is still "is it/isn't it a prequel". The concept seems simple enough at this point (playing around in the same universe to tell a different story, with some connective tissue to the first films).

It's like these people need for it to be confusing and odd because it's the angle they like playing up. Let it go, guys. Let it go.

but the space jockey is in this movie. Ridley Scott said he wanted to explain what we saw in the first alien. it is connected.

Blade Runner is supposed to be from the same universe. this is ''telling a different story''

no offense guys but its over. its ovah. the alien creature from the first movie is in this trailer. its a sculpture on the wall. and we get the space jockey origin.

 

[The Morningstar]

No I am not thinking the film's name is because of the ship. I am saying that calling the Ship Prometheus is not the best way to go.

Oh i see, i misunderstood then.

But still, why is it not the best way to go? The title "Prometheus" obviously has a double meaning. It's the name of the ship and is more than likely the entire theme/metaphor for the film.

Some of us on here have come up with ideas for it. Weyland might be the "prometheus". Or maybe one of the Space Jockey's who decide to help the humans is.

The movie already has us asking questions and thinking of ideas, and we haven't even seen it yet. That is the sign of great sci fi.

 

[The Morningstar]

but the space jockey is in this movie. Ridley Scott said he wanted to explain what we saw in the first alien. it is connected.

Blade Runner is supposed to be from the same universe. this is ''telling a different story''

no offense guys but its over. its ovah. the alien creature from the first movie is in this trailer. its a sculpture on the wall. and we get the space jockey origin.

Isn't the Blade Runner being in the same universe nothing but fan fiction? I mean, it doesn't even make sense. How could the Tyrell corporation have a monopoly on cybernetics when the Weyland/Yutani corporation exists, for example.

 

[chamber-music]

Madagascar is opening up against this, so we'll see how it fares.

I think Prometheus will be alright. Madagascar is going to have a different audience to Prometheus.

 

[obin_gam]

Isn't the Blade Runner being in the same universe nothing but fan fiction? I mean, it doesn't even make sense. How could the Tyrell corporation have a monopoly on cybernetics when the Weyland/Yutani corporation exists, for example.

No, it comes directly from Ridley Scotts mouth. Listen to Blade Runner - Final Cut's commentary track.

 

[The Morningstar]

Wow interesting. Still doesn't make sense to me though. If Weyland/Yutani is this massive, global controlling corporation, how does the Tyrell corporation compete and be so successful? And their Replicants are clearly different to the synthetics in the Alien movies.

 

[chamber-music]

Paul W.S. Anderson has been homaging or pooping on Ridley Scott for years depending on your view of him and his films.

Its funny because some of the production people who worked on Alien worked on Event Horizion to which Anderson says Alien was an influence.

Paul W.S. Andersons film Soldier is a Sidequel to Blade Runner set in the same universe (but not the same planet), and contained numerous references to Blade Runner.

You could describe Prometheus as a sidequel I suppose as well.

Paul W.S. Anderson also went onto write and produce the Alien Vs Predator movies.

 

[The Morningstar]

Paul WS Anderson just needs to stop making movies.