Prometheus - Part 4

[Airwings]

I think Prometheus is a character in the film, one of the alien scentists who created the xenomorphs. But when something goes badly wrong, he's punished by being tied up with a xenomorph egg inside his stomach. And he's forced to go through this kind of death over and over. Just like the mythological Prometheus.

 

[craigdbfan]

I think Prometheus is a character in the film, one of the alien scentists who created the xenomorphs. But when something goes badly wrong, he's punished by being tied up with a xenomorph egg inside his stomach. And he's forced to go through this kind of death over and over. Just like the mythological Prometheus.

Prometheus is the name of the ship...

 

[The Morningstar]

He might be on to something though. Obviously Prometheus is the name of the ship, but perhaps one of the Space Jockey's actually does kinda warm to mankind, and Shaw's character in particular, and helps them. Much to the dismay of the rest of it's race, and is punished for it.

Scott has mentioned the story of Prometheus a few times. There must be more to that than it simply being the name of the ship.

 

[Airwings]

Oh, my idea is not simple enough, I guess.
They could have done so much with the story in this film, but I think the visuals are the film's strongest side. It will be breath-taking. But the plot not so much. Like Avatar, perhaps?

EDIT:

Scott has mentioned the story of Prometheus a few times. There must be more to that than it simply being the name of the ship.

Yes. Prometheus only being the name of a space ship, is actually quite dumb. What is the link to the titan?

 

[craigdbfan]

He might be on to something though. Obviously Prometheus is the name of the ship, but perhaps one of the Space Jockey's actually does kinda warm to mankind, and Shaw's character in particular, and helps them. Much to the dismay of the rest of it's race, and is punished for it.

Scott has mentioned the story of Prometheus a few times. There must be more to that than it simply being the name of the ship.

I'm not dismissing that part. Just clarifying that the only thing named Prometheus in this movie is the ship not a scientist.

Obviously the theme of that story will be prevalent and adjacent to much of the events taking place in the movie.

 

[The Morningstar]

Oh, my idea is not simple enough, I guess.
They could have done so much with the story in this film, but I think the visuals are the film's strongest side. It will be breath-taking. But the plot not so much. Like Avatar, perhaps?

Yea not at all. Scott is all about story and themes. He's not Michael Bay. Scott said he'd never come back to the franchise unless he had a strong story.

 

[Anita18]

Oh, my idea is not simple enough, I guess.
They could have done so much with the story in this film, but I think the visuals are the film's strongest side. It will be breath-taking. But the plot not so much. Like Avatar, perhaps?

EDIT:

Yes. Prometheus only being the name of a space ship, is actually quite dumb. What is the link to the titan?

Yeah, no.

How's this idea - maybe they don't want to TELL US before the movie comes out.

I mean, "The Dark Knight" has its own obvious connotations, but it also had a connection to something that was actually in the movie, which we didn't find out until we saw it.

 

[dark_b]

the ship is prometheus and the the story is inspired by the prometheus story. scifi version. it would be just stupid to have the ship and cahracter named prometheus

what i do think is that Weyland likes stories about gods. so he gives the ship the name prometheus. he after all payed for the ship

 

[The Morningstar]

Or maybe Weyland sees himself as a God (we know he's extremely egotistical), and he brings gifts to mankind (his technology) and is eventually punished for it at the end?

AHHHHHHH THE MIND BOGGLES!

 

[DACrowe]

Oh, my idea is not simple enough, I guess.
They could have done so much with the story in this film, but I think the visuals are the film's strongest side. It will be breath-taking. But the plot not so much. Like Avatar, perhaps?

EDIT:

Yes. Prometheus only being the name of a space ship, is actually quite dumb. What is the link to the titan?

Because the title of the film is a mythological allusion, it's "too simple" and you'd rather have a literal character who can't die being chest bursted forever? Really?!

Sometimes simplicity allows you to explore bigger ideas and humanity more deeply than Cameron-esque on-the-nose writing. Also, we haven't seen it so either condemning or praising the story with complete certainty is absurd.

 

[dark_b]

Sometimes simplicity allows you to explore bigger ideas and humanity more deeply than Cameron-esque on-the-nose writing. Also, we haven't seen it so either condemning or praising the story with complete certainty is absurd.

simplicity? the title is what the story is about. and the ship as the same name.

this is as clear as Cameron writting.

 

[Airwings]

what i do think is that Weyland likes stories about gods. so he gives the ship the name prometheus. he after all payed for the ship

Goin on a mission with a ship named Prometheus means no happy ending. Maybe the characters in this film don't know about the myths?
The same thing can be said about the ship Icarus in sci fi film Sunshine.

I think it's more of a nod to the audience.

 

[The Morningstar]

The term Prometheus is clearly more than just the name of the ship. The story of Prometheus is a metaphor for the theme of this film, I'd put money on it.

And the theme of this film will be a hell of a lot more interesting than what Avatar basically said, which was "people who are not tree huggers are bad".

 

[craigdbfan]

I'm glad that Scott touched on the whole CGI is "less expensive" to use myth. Having the actors perform in an entirely blue screen vacuum as he put it is counter productive in both the sense that the actors barely have a substantial reference to hold onto when they're acting and the repair bill for reanimating and changing things during post can sometimes overflow into a ridiculous amount.

Having sets and tangible locations definitely is the wiser move in the long run with using CGI as a means to enhance what you otherwise can't physically achieve. "sensible" school as Ridley so perfectly put it is the best method.

If you think about all the movies that have gone far too over budget they're the ones that have being too overly reliant on CGI.

 

[Airwings]

Because the title of the film is a mythological allusion, it's "too simple" and you'd rather have a literal character who can't die being chest bursted forever? Really?!

The main characters could find a remaining corpse with superhuman DNA, or a thombstone with the word Prometheus, or anything that hold back the use of the name Prometheus until half the film, atleast. Or the planet can be called Prometheus by it's own race, something that the visitors from earth find out during the course of the film.
In the trailer, several alien races is said to have travelled to earth in the past. There we have another connection to greek mythology. A titan could very well be technological advanced alien being, and this film could reveal this in a smarter and much more mysterious way than the explanation we got in Thor.

As I said; they could have done so much with this. Some really heavy writing, something brain-twisting and mind-bending far beyond what we are used to see in American blockbuster films.
I am sure there are better ways than having the film begin with a ship called Prometheus.
But this is a popcorn sci fi after all. We should not demand too much.

"Keep it simple"

 

[Matt Mortem]

This is Weyland talking about Prometheus. The ship is named Prometheus and the film will be a metaphor for the Prometheus myth. There won't be a character named Prometheus or anything like that. I'm damned sure that there aren't any references to Prometheus outside of the ships name and the allegorical connections.

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[DoomsdayApex]

The term Prometheus is clearly more than just the name of the ship. The story of Prometheus is a metaphor for the theme of this film, I'd put money on it.

And the theme of this film will be a hell of a lot more interesting than what Avatar basically said, which was "people who are not tree huggers are bad".

I'm no fan of Avatar's script. In fact, I disliked it quite so, however, the notion you got from the film is not just that 'corporations are evil, tree huggers are righteous'. As men of science, you have acknowledge what the human race is doing to our own planet is not exactly 'good' either. We blissfully ignore the repercussions until tragedy strikes. That's always been human nature.

So while I concede that there is a 'We Love Mother Earth' message instilled into these films, there is also truth to how we, as a race, operate and interact around our own environment and 'sell out'.

 

[The Morningstar]

You don't know what you are talking about. Either that, or you're purposefully being an idiot. This is Ridley Scott we're talking about, the guy who made Blade Runner. Thought provoking sci fi at it's best.

If you think this film is called Prometheus simply because that is the name of the ship then...

 

[Vickers]

'Prometheus': Michael Fassbender Is A 'Butler In Space'

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2012/03/20/prometheus-michael-fassbender-is-a-butler-in-space/

In "Prometheus," the year is 2085, and a star map that could lead to an explanation for the beginning of mankind triggers a scientific expedition aboard the titular spaceship. The mission takes the crew into the civilization of an advanced alien race, and they realize that the objective is no longer to gain knowledge, but to survive.


When MTV News caught up with Fassbender and co-star Charlize Theron briefly at WonderCon, we asked them to tell us how we meet their characters.
“David [is] a robot on board, kind of like a butler in space,” Fassbender said about his role as a human-like android that works as the ship’s maintenance man. “He’s making sure that everybody is going through cryostasis correctly, that the ship’s in good working order, and that they’re on course to go where they need to go.”

For those unhip to the lingo, Fassbender summed up cryostasis, a post-sleeping/hybernative state, as slippery business: “[People come out] vomiting liquid ... [when] you come out of cryostasis, a lot of liquid comes out.”
“I’m first,” Theron said in reference to when we meet her character, Meredith Vickers.




Vickers is the corporate executive on board Prometheus. If you needed any indication of how bad ass her character is, the villainous vixen not only comes out of cryostasis first- she gets up and exercises, or so Theron and Fassbender claimed.
“Yes, you’re the first one up doing exercise, immediately, and very sort of, like yourself, energy in the morning, you’re up doing push ups,” Fassbender said.
“Everybody does it like that,” Theron joked.




The story takes place thirty years before Scott’s 1979 "Alien," but it is not easily labeled as a prequel to the legendary science fiction horror franchise. Although "Prometheus" is set in the same universe as "Alien," it has all new characters and attempts to shatter the sci-fi stereotypes of your typical chest-busting creatures. The futuristic thriller aims to unearth deeper themes while exploring the origins of humanity on earth.

 

[Matt Mortem]

The main characters could find a remaining corpse with superhuman DNA, or a thombstone with the word Prometheus, or anything that hold back the use of the name Prometheus until half the film, atleast. Or the planet can be called Prometheus by it's own race, something that the visitors from earth find out during the course of the film.
In the trailer, several alien races is said to have travelled to earth in the past. There we have another connection to greek mythology. A titan could very well be technological advanced alien being, and this film could reveal this in a smarter and much more mysterious way than the explanation we got in Thor.

As I said; they could have done so much with this. Some really heavy writing, something brain-twisting and mind-bending far beyond what we are used to see in American blockbuster films.
I am sure there are better ways than having the film begin with a ship called Prometheus.
But this is a popcorn sci fi after all. We should not demand too much.

"Keep it simple"

Really?

 

[The Morningstar]

I'm no fan of Avatar's script. In fact, I disliked it quite so, however, the notion you got from the film is not just that 'corporations are evil, tree huggers are righteous'. As men of science, you have acknowledge what the human race is doing to our own planet is not exactly 'good' either. We blissfully ignore the repercussions until tragedy strikes. That's always been human nature.

So while I concede that there is a 'We Love Mother Earth' message instilled into these films, there is also truth to how we, as a race, operate and interact around our own environment and 'sell out'.

What you say is true, but it still boils down to what I said. Which i don't agree with. I think the whole global warming thing is a cycle of nature and that humans have no little to no effect on it. When a volcano erupts it spews more damaging gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race combined.

 

[Airwings]

Weyland's speech let us know that only one scientific improvement were made during the 1900th century.
I rest my case!

 

[The Morningstar]

Weyland's speech let us know that only one scientific improvement were made during the 1900th century.
I rest my case!

You do realise when people say the 19th century they mean the 1800s right?

 

[Matt Mortem]

Weyland's speech let us know that only one scientific improvement were made during the 1900th century.
I rest my case!

What on Earth are you talking about?

 

[Airwings]

^ Yes I do