Prometheus - Part 6

[CConn]

Has nothing to do with that, smart guy. But yay for jumping to conclusions.

You're right. I'm sorry I didn't assume you were bi, gay or transgendered. I'll keep it in mind for next time.

 

[Boom]

I thought the Juggernaut was the alien ship?

Those big humanoid things are the Engineers (Space Jockeys) outside of their suits.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

You're right. I'm sorry I didn't assume you were bi, gay or transgendered. I'll keep it in mind for next time.

That a slimy alien tentacle climbing into the guys stomach, or body horror in general, might make me squeamish didn't cross your mind? Jumping straight to assumed homophobia was your only thought?

 

[CConn]

That a slimy alien tentacle climbing into the guys stomach, or body horror in general, might make me squeamish didn't cross your mind? Jumping straight to assumed homophobia was your only thought?

Hah. Not at all. I was making a joke, intended purely to elude to the sexual metaphors previously mentioned this thread. No homophobia was neither implied or intended. Lighten up.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Hah. Not at all. I was making a joke, intended purely to elude to the sexual metaphors previously mentioned this thread. No homophobia was neither implied or intended. Lighten up.

Oh. Damned internet strikes again. I was starting to get a little riled lol.

 

[CConn]

Oh good. I really thought we were going to have a ruckus.

It's cool.

 

[Blue Sugar]

I listened to a soundtrack preview. Most of it is basically just bunch of ambient sounds mixed in with generic beats. Really pales in comparison to the score for A L I E N. I was hoping for a more memorable soundtrack.

Just for once, can we get a soundtrack in a movie that actually has a solid composer composing a grandiose, atmospheric score with classical instruments, without all the electronic synth and beats crap added into it? It's like almost every single score nowadays has to sound like a Han Zimmer made it. And I don't mean that in a good way.

Now I haven't heard the soundtrack and won't comment on the actual quality of it. But I don't see how it's anything wrong with electronic influenced or based music per say. Quite the contrary I'm a fan of great electronic scores myself. Not meaning I don't love great classical scores too, but I think a score is more about quality and context and less about what style it is made in.

From what we have seen of the movie, I think an ambient and electronic soundtrack can fit quite well. If done good that is of course.

Oh and Zimmer rules.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Well... judging by that gif with the guy in the glasses and the snake thing... I can see that they are still keeping with some of Alien's underlying themes. I figured that they probably would.

 

[Kane52630]

I wish I didn't looked at the last page, oh well. I think I'm gonna stay out of this thread after the movie comes out.

 

[Liam_H]

I assumed those images were from the new spoilery TV spot which I wanted to avoid, wished they were spoiler tagged.

 

[Still Wynning]

Now I haven't heard the soundtrack and won't comment on the actual quality of it. But I don't see how it's anything wrong with electronic influenced or based music per say. Quite the contrary I'm a fan of great electronic scores myself. Not meaning I don't love great classical scores too, but I think a score is more about quality and context and less about what style it is made in.

From what we have seen of the movie, I think an ambient and electronic soundtrack can fit quite well. If done good that is of course.

Oh and Zimmer rules.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I love Zimmer, too. His scores for Nolan's Batman films, Inception, Pirates of the Caribbean films are probably some of my favorite film scores.

The thing is, though, is that, for the most, part, a lot of scores nowadays have been aping that Zimmer-ish sound, and sometimes they don't always succeed. Then, there's that lack of memorable theme. I just wish more scores would go back to that way of just classically orchestrating a film, like Indiana Jones, Star Wars, Jaws, Jurassic Park and those other films, all of which contained a memorable theme.

Maybe you're right, though. I was just listening to some samples from the soundtrack, not the entire soundtrack. It probably will work a lot better in the context of the actual film itself. I'll just have to wait and see.

 

[MrWayne]

So glad I don't do TV, I'm a cable guy myself so no commercials. And for the times I do watch TV, I rarely ever come across trailers, if I do I just change the channel. lol

Ok, so, Juggernaut and the SJ are not the same... Hmmm ok, cuz the SJ from the derelict ship on LV-426 was waaaay bigger. Like Big big.

 

[Still Wynning]

Okay, so I gave the Prometheus soundtrack samples another listen, this time a little more carefully (I kind of skimmed through them the first time).

I have to say, it sounds a lot better to me than I initially thought. Not as much electronic stuff as I thought there would be. Some of the tracks, especially the one posted below, sound very Jerry Goldsmith-esque, which I like.

And that one track, called "Life", sounds breathtaking!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TcH4SmvA
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It kind of reminds me of the original opening track that Jerry Goldsmith composed for A L I E N:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKWgepGEZU8
[YT]SKWgepGEZU8[/YT]

I'm actually looking forward to hearing this score in it's entirety. t:

 

[Solidus]

I've listened to the entire score, and it is good, very subtle but good.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

The score is alright, better than I expected. It's just a bit too cheery at some stages and I wasn't really creeped out like when I listen to the Alien score.

 

[THANOSRULES]

Now I haven't heard the soundtrack and won't comment on the actual quality of it. But I don't see how it's anything wrong with electronic influenced or based music per say. Quite the contrary I'm a fan of great electronic scores myself. Not meaning I don't love great classical scores too, but I think a score is more about quality and context and less about what style it is made in.

From what we have seen of the movie, I think an ambient and electronic soundtrack can fit quite well. If done good that is of course.

Oh and Zimmer rules.

There's been some good stuff out there in video games, HALO's music is great and would fit nice in a movie.

I do dig the beeps and sparse sound..it's long been entrenched in sci fi, The Lost Planet had some awesome moods set by that, then I also love the Tron/ terminator I- type stuff too, John carpenter also rocks.

That sound has always worked in sci fi

 

[JokesonU]

I was just reading a very old interview in Millimeter, with Ridley Scott that dates back to 1979. Scott discusses the making of Alien and there are a few bits in it that might possibly imply his approach to Prometheus.

- "The thing I was always frustrated about was the absence of sense of smell with the beast. It's a real element with him, because his odor must have been incredibly powerful. I wanted a sense of timeless, slightly decaying creature that, maybe, only has a limited life cycle of, maybe, four days like an insect. The alien life form lived to reproduce, and in reproducing took on the characteristics of its last inhabitant and its new host. Thus the alien on board the Nostromo had the characteristics of the space jockey on the derelict and Kane. If the face hugger had hit the cat, it would have been a hybrid of the space jockey and the cat. When Ripley blasts off from the Nostromo with the alien aboard, it's dying, which is why it moves so slowly. She kills it, but it would have died soon anyway. It's like a butterfly."

- "Yes, but what I missed most of all was the absence of a prognosis scene. There were no speculative scenes or discussions about what the alien was and all that sort of thing either. I believe audiences love those, especially if they're well done. They give the threat much more weight.
If they make Alien II, and if I have anything to do with it, the film will certainly have all those elements in it. From a certain point of view, Alien II could be far more interesting then Alien I."

Take that with a grain of salt. But, I thought that that seemed plausible. Judging from what we've been seeing and what Ridley has been giving in recent interviews for Prometheus, it definitely sounds like he's stuck to his earlier comments from the making of the first Alien.

 

[MrWayne]

Wow that was awesome, thank you for posting this! I love getting into all the intricate details like that.

Has any of the info in that interview concerning the Alien ever been discussed at length?

I never knew any of those details, and it does help shine some light on the alien species. Especially the thing about having a very short life span. I always wondered why the Alien seemed less hostile and agressive when it wad curled up in the Nostromo at the end. I thought it was sleeping. Now I know it's because it was dying!

 

[JokesonU]

Wow that was awesome, thank you for posting this! I love getting into all the intricate details like that.

Has any of the info in that interview concerning the Alien ever been discussed at length? I never knew any of those details.

It's a 21-page interview. He discusses some of the process he went through. Most of it is stuff he's already mentioned in a lot of interviews and then there is a really great anecdote about the screening for Alien. Not sure whether it's been mentioned before as I have not read EVERY interview that is out there on Ridley. But, it's news to me.

 

[MrWayne]

News to me as well. I always was curious about the Alien and wanted to know everything from where and how it came from and also all the other A-Z 411 stuff.

I never saw any of the movies really get into any of the Aliens origines or it's science. The films pretty much ignored any of that and just went straight into the action.

It's good to know Ridley had really thought out the Alien and gave it a background the way he did.

 

[JokesonU]

News to me as well. I always was curious about the Alien and wanted to know everything from where and how it came from and also all the other A-Z 411 stuff.

I never saw any of the movies really get into any of the Aliens origines or it's science. They films pretty much ignored any of that and just went straight into the action.

Yeah, then that interview will definitely be worth a read if you want to know about the making of Alien. There's always that really great documentary on the Blu Ray release for the Quadrilogy set. I'm not sure if those same features are on the single disc release. If not, then you'll have to pick up the boxed set. Sorry.

Also, another great book chronicling the making of Alien is that hardcover book that recently came out not too long ago, The Alien Vault. Super awesome book!

 

[Solidus]

The more I listen to the soundtrack the more I love it, it is subtle not a blaring "theme" type of soundtrack but it is still really good. I can't stop listening to it.

 

[Marvolo]

The last track "A Birth" sounds ominous as hell!

Edit: Track 2 "Going in" does as well.

 

[craigdbfan]

I think some of the more "cheery" beats will be in stark contrast with the footage actually playing out on screen. I actually find that idea incredibly disturbing and awesome.

 

[Marvolo]

No doubt. Anytime someone is dying horribly or something truly disturbing is happening to the beat of some cheery song it tends to increase the overall uncomfortable feeling. It has to be pulled off just right, but if done properly it is great.

Really liking this soundtrack. Can't wait to hear it in the film.