Transformers Realism and Cartoons

[Headless Knight]

vs realistic? vs SJ willing to do a topless shot? **** That!

Lol, and she suggested it. He didn't even have to ask.

 

[xwolverine2]

Lol, and she suggested it. He didn't even have to ask.

well at least he aint uwe boll............that poor fool begs

 

[Timstuff]

He begs and ends up being denied anyway. Michael Bay apparently though has such a great effect on his actors that he's in a position to turn down their offers. And since The Island was always set to be a PG-13 movie, that's probably why he told SJ to keep the bra on.

I think The Island could have been a bigger success if the stupid marketing department didn't insist on giving away the entire freakin' movie in the trailer. They shouldn't have even let people know it was about clones until after it was out.

 

[Headless Knight]

I think The Island could have been a bigger success if the stupid marketing department didn't insist on giving away the entire freakin' movie in the trailer. They shouldn't have even let people know it was about clones until after it was out.

Totally.

 

[bunk]

I don't agree with this. I think Brett Ratner represents everything that is wrong with Hollywood. That hack spends more time hanging out with the cast of his films than paying attention to critical details in the movies he directs. At least Micheal Bay has proven on more than one occasion that he can make a good blockbuster film.

I guess you haven't seen Red Dragon.

 

[Headless Knight]

I guess you haven't seen Red Dragon.

That one sucks monkey balls. Hopkins acting was so over-the-top I almost thought I was seeing a satire.

 

[NikeHead]

He begs and ends up being denied anyway. Michael Bay apparently though has such a great effect on his actors that he's in a position to turn down their offers. And since The Island was always set to be a PG-13 movie, that's probably why he told SJ to keep the bra on.

I think The Island could have been a bigger success if the stupid marketing department didn't insist on giving away the entire freakin' movie in the trailer. They shouldn't have even let people know it was about clones until after it was out.

I agree with you about the Island being totally given away by the movie trailers. I had seen the trailers and then saw it at a friends house when it came out on DVD, and having seen the trailers, the plot was already given to me. But my cousin and friends who were watchin it hadn't seen the trailers and didn't know the whole clone deal until it got to that part. They were getting confused up until that point saying, "What's going on? I don't get it." and I would ask them, "You guys haven't seen the trailers?" Because they didn't see the trailers, they ended up enjoying the movie and the plot was ruined for people who watched the trailers like me. Overall I still liked the movie and I think that Bay will be able to do this movie some right.

 

[nosebleed.]

That one sucks monkey balls. Hopkins acting was so over-the-top I almost thought I was seeing a satire.

I agree here. While I like Ed Norton in the majority of his films, he seems very uninspired in his role in Red Dragon...just going through the motions.

 

[nosebleed.]

I agree with you about the Island being totally given away by the movie trailers. I had seen the trailers and then saw it at a friends house when it came out on DVD, and having seen the trailers, the plot was already given to me. But my cousin and friends who were watchin it hadn't seen the trailers and didn't know the whole clone deal until it got to that part. They were getting confused up until that point saying, "What's going on? I don't get it." and I would ask them, "You guys haven't seen the trailers?" Because they didn't see the trailers, they ended up enjoying the movie and the plot was ruined for people who watched the trailers like me. Overall I still liked the movie and I think that Bay will be able to do this movie some right.

Well, let's hope that he doesn't spoil Transformers for people in the trailer. I mean, if he let's everyone know that the cars actually turn into robots then the whole plot will be given away...

 

[CherryRedSpider]

Did you know that, when filming the sex scene in The Island, Scarlett Johansson wanted to show her breasts because it would make the scene more realistic but Bay insisted that she kept her bra on?

That's the kind of guy Michael Bay is.

Bay is going to have a problem with Prime then. That Autobot is all about the frontal nudes.

 

[bunk]

I agree here. While I like Ed Norton in the majority of his films, he seems very uninspired in his role in Red Dragon...just going through the motions.

Maybe...I was thinking about Ratner's directing which was solid, not so much the acting. Especially after watching Hannibal.

 

[nosebleed.]

Bay is going to have a problem with Prime then. That Autobot is all about the frontal nudes.

up:

 

[nosebleed.]

Maybe...I was thinking about Ratner's directing which was solid, not so much the acting. Especially after watching Hannibal.

Ratner's directing is key to pulling a solid performance out of his actors/actresses. A prime example is the SW prequels. They had great actors/actresses with some very dry, boring acting. Who's fault was this? The actors/actresses or the director?

 

[Headless Knight]

Ratner's directing is key to pulling a solid performance out of his actors/actresses. A prime example is the SW prequels. They had great actors/actresses with some very dry, boring acting. Who's fault was this? The actors/actresses or the director?

Exactly.

People sometimes seem to forget it's the director's job to, you know, direct the actors.

 

[bunk]

Ratner's directing is key to pulling a solid performance out of his actors/actresses. A prime example is the SW prequels. They had great actors/actresses with some very dry, boring acting. Who's fault was this? The actors/actresses or the director?

Writer, who incidentally is the same person.

An experienced actor can deal with a bad director but not a bad script.

 

[xwolverine2]

Lecter haters!!!

you will all burn!

 

[Headless Knight]

Writer, who incidentally is the same person.

An experienced actor can deal with a bad director but not a bad script.

Sorry, you're wrong. The director is the key element in making an actor's talent come to life.

The script has little to do with it, because the actors are going to read it once ou twice in pre-production (when they do it, sometimes they don't even memorize their lines) and then, months later, when they get to the point of filming it, they already forgot at least a large portion of it.

And besides, movies are not filmed chronologically. Sometimes the first thing you film are the final scenes. So, imagine if the actors depended mainly on the script. They'd be totally lost.

When filming a scene, It's the director's job to make sure the actors understand what their characters are feeling in that particular moment, and how to express it. Trust me on this one, bud.

 

[Headless Knight]

Lecter haters!!!

you will all burn!

Nothing against Lecter, my problem is Anthony Hopkins' slurp-slurp-I'm-a-psycho characterization.

 

[xwolverine2]

Nothing against Lecter, my problem is Anthony Hopkins' slurp-slurp-I'm-a-psycho characterization.

yeah thats Dr. lecter alright

 

[bunk]

Sorry, you're wrong. The director is the key element in making an actor's talent come to life.

The script has little to do with it, because the actors are going to read it once ou twice in pre-production (when they do it, sometimes they don't even memorize their lines) and then, months later, when they get to the point of filming it, they already forgot at least a large portion of it.

And besides, movies are not filmed chronologically. Sometimes the first thing you film are the final scenes. So, imagine if the actors depended mainly on the script. They'd be totally lost.

When filming a scene, It's the director's job to make sure the actors understand what their characters are feeling in that particular moment, and how to express it. Trust me on this one, bud.

Why should I should I trust you?

 

[Headless Knight]

yeah thats Dr. lecter alright

I guess you haven't read the books.

 

[bunk]

I guess you haven't read the books.

Meaning....

 

[CFlash]

Lol, I like a lot of Hollywood popcorn stuff too, including most of Spielberg's work.

I love Jaws, Close Encounters, E.T., Riders of the Lost Ark, War of the Worlds, etc. And I also like several of his "artistic" movies (I love A.I. and Schindler's List, and I thought Munich was very good).

So don't get me wrong, Spielberg is one of the best american directors of all time, he's just not impervious to a few missteps in his career.

Man! I dunno if I hate you or not. I love A.I. as well... I thought I was the only one!

But, I also did like Hook... a lot! And The Terminal... and Shrek... and almost everything else you cite. I can see Evolution being garbage (tho it's not any worse than Armageddon... and it's more fun than that craptitude)....

And to answer your question: I watched Goonies just last month. Watched it with my daughter. It's one of the few movies (like Pulp Fiction funnily) that I can watch over and over and over again.

I can see the highbrow intent of your Top 20 list. It reminds me of the Approval Matrix segment of New York magazine. Yes... some (all?) are masterpieces. But, the snob-appeal is a little too over the top for me. I'm more of a B-Movie fan. Big fan at that. I'd pick Evil Dead over half of those movies on your list. ;-)

P.S.
A.I. is one of the most underrated movies of all time IMHO.
And 2001 is one of the most overrated. (I enjoyed the book tho).
Kubrick and Spielberg should have done more movies together IMO.
;-)

 

[CFlash]

Ratner's directing is key to pulling a solid performance out of his actors/actresses. A prime example is the SW prequels. They had great actors/actresses with some very dry, boring acting. Who's fault was this? The actors/actresses or the director?

Yeah. It's usually the Director's fault. I love Lucas as a writer/visionary... but I sooooo wish he had handed over the reigns for the prequels to someone else (like he did for Empire Strikes Back). Still, he kinda made up for it with Revenge. Love that freakin movie.

 

[Headless Knight]

Why should I should I trust you?

Uh... I guess you don't have to trust me. You could read a few articles about directing (and movies in general), and confirm what I'm saying...

But, you know, you don't have to that either. It will make no difference in my life whatsoever, I swear.