Reasons why i think Topher Grace is not Venom (clues say everything and its long)

[Norman Osborn]

Damn, now I'm really hoping that Topher Grace will officially be announced as Eddie Brock. It's just something that needs to happen, I love a good angry crowd, it's gonna be my own personally Christmas gift to myself.

Scrooge!!!!

 

[Visionary]

I'm one who's all for him playing Electro or Venom, I'd prefer Electro...but I'm cool with him playing Eddie Brock. I just can't wait to start peeing on everyone, with a grin like R. KELLY, if he's playing Eddie Brock.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Damn, now I'm really hoping that Topher Grace will officially be announced as Eddie Brock. It's just something that needs to happen, I love a good angry crowd, it's gonna be my own personally Christmas gift to myself.

Look, as far as I'm concern, Kirsten is a stooge, for saying what she has said. She is willingly playing the role of a stooge for Sony & Marvel, to completely throw the fan base off, of what there intentions are. Sony releasing a picture of Sandman only adds to the deception and reveals nothing that most have not already knew. Hell, we knew 2 years ago, long before THC was even thought off, that Sandman was going to be in SM3 when Sam & Tobey express "their love" for the character.... how convient.... they put that out there to gage the public response, and sence there was no up-roar about it, they went with it. I sincerily hope you don't get that Christmas present.... not because of fear you are going to say "nine nine knee nine nigh", but because Topher does not fit the Character, IMHO.

If Sony confirm him as EB/V, than so be it... I hope he does a good job, and I have said if he is EB/V, I think he will, cause he is a good actor. IMO, he does not fit the character of a mean, pist-off, quick tempered, mad at the world, revengeful, don't give a sh** about life, gotta have it my way or I will kill myself, hunk of mass to me...... Topher looks more like...... a geeky, weak, nine nigh, itch that gets on your nerve, 148lb weakling, that is silly and is comic relief. He looks like he could be PP..... and before you jump in saying thats the point, a mirror image PP/Spidey..... EB/V is not a mirror image in either world(616 or UU). EB/V is the complete opposite of PP/Spidey. Everything PP/Spidey is, EB/V is not. Everything EB/V is, PP/Spidey is not.... so save it, they are not mirror images of each other.... they are on the total opposite side of the spectrum, especially when you add the Symbiot murderous hatred to EB already terrible persona.

Hell, I would acceppt him more as Ned Leeds, Electro, or CHAMELEON, than EB/V. This has nothing to do with Sam... he basically said that this was Sony & Marvel game of "hide and go seek".... and I honestly think that they put Kirsten up to do that, which maybe the reason why she fear no repercussion for her action.... or that she is totally wrong, and there is no need to reprehend her.

 

[Sparta*]

I dunno...Topher really cries out Quentin Beck AKA Mysterio to me.....

 

[TheRiddlerkid]

I dunno...Topher really cries out Quentin Beck AKA Mysterio to me.....

In this Picture Especially, I think it just looks like a mondern day Beck, but meh, that's just me again.

But I think you going onto something there,

although, close in weight, I think like Topher is 155, and Mysterio here is 175, but they look similar I guess in bidy build, I really don't think hair matters to much.

however, I still think he is Hobgoblin.

 

[TrueBeliever]

Hey, I've posted this elsewhere and plan to repost this in other Topher threads (I haven't been keeping up with the threads as much as I should...) So, if this is old news, forgive me:

Imdb.com lists Topher Grace as "Venom"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413300/

KyleD.

 

[Gladiator]

Hey, I've posted this elsewhere and plan to repost this in other Topher threads (I haven't been keeping up with the threads as much as I should...) So, if this is old news, forgive me:

Imdb.com lists Topher Grace as "Venom"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413300/

KyleD.

WTH?? Every thread I've been to has this post.





And btw, don't believe it until you hear it from Sony/Marvel/Raimi.

 

[Superman \S/]

Hey, I've posted this elsewhere and plan to repost this in other Topher threads (I haven't been keeping up with the threads as much as I should...) So, if this is old news, forgive me:

Imdb.com lists Topher Grace as "Venom"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413300/

KyleD.

And you believe IMDB? I'll believe he's playing Venom when Raimi confirms it.

 

[CrimeMaster!]

I like to think that Beck and Mysterio are the same thing, I mean the alien thing should have not happened as it was really never resolved in the early issues of Spider-Man. But Beck is still Mysterio and I would rather have Beck than Mysterio.{quote}

Well Beck isn't Norman Osborn who doesn't need to wear the Green Goblin outfit all the time to be an interesting character.Becks needs the fishbowl dome green suit,purple cape with the 2 eyes.His outfit and tricks is the characters appeal.

I prefer Beck myself but Berkhart isn't doing a bad job himself with the Mysterio stuff.

Both can pretend to be Spider-Man, but would you rather be the guy who can change his appearance or the guy who can change his appearance, fight, creat ilusions, hypnotize you and other things?{quote}

Well the fact of the matter is you deemed Chameleon a Mysterio ripe off when he was created first and used the dress up as Spider-Man to commit a crime angle first.

hence I think he is a rip off, well to modern times anyway. Chamelion is more of a Minor Villain now adays where as Mysterio (at it's pivitole) was a force to be reconed with. I'll give props to Chamelion for doing what he does, but what Mysterio can do, goes farthar than that of what the Chamelion can go to..{quote}


Well judging by the last 17 years ,it seems Chameleon got around quite a bit.more so then Mysterio.Ranging from being a player in the later 80s Lobo Brothers gang war/Kidnapping and impersonating JJ,the fake parents plot with Harry Osborn,discovering Spider-Man's identity during a Spectacular Spider-Man arc in the late 90s,and Paul Jenkins wonderful story from Webspinners.

Now I would't dare say Chameleon has Green Goblin or Doc Ock impact but I wouldn't say hes a minor villain either.As for you Mysterio being a better force and doing what Chameleon can do farther comment,well I would say Chameleon has done more to get to and strike at Spider-Man then Mysterio has.

I will admit he is a character and he has a different story and everyhting, but Mysterio has that "whatever you can do, I can do better" thing against him..{quote}

Well Chameleon has the better track record I would say when it comes to being a mastermind and crimes.

Im with you I prefer Mysterio to Chameleon ,love the character and his costume is my favorite for a supervillain.

I think with good writing Mysterio can be used as a more effective villain then Chameleon.Hey I enjoyed what Mackie was doing with the Berkhart/Mysterio(even though at first they were writing him as if it was Beck) with the whole being driven to finally find out Spider-Man secret idenity to strike back at him.It could have let to some interesting stuff but like most Mackie plots was lefted unresolved for other writers to clean up.

PAD has said he would like to use Mysterio at some point during his run if he could just figure out the mess of whos behind that dome.I have faith he would use him well,but who knows.Along with Hobgoblin ,I would look forward to both making a return to the main Spider-Man books.

 

[CrimeMaster!]

In this Picture Especially, I think it just looks like a mondern day Beck, but meh, that's just me again.

But I think you going onto something there,

although, close in weight, I think like Topher is 155, and Mysterio here is 175, but they look similar I guess in bidy build, I really don't think hair matters to much.

however, I still think he is Hobgoblin.

I don't see Grace resembling Beck at all,if anything a young Leonard Nimoy resembles the Beck from the comic books the most in my opinion.

As for Hobgoblin,well if Grace was older I could see that.He does have the kinda build that kingsley has,but if anyone suits up in Goblin gear it will be Franco/Harry not Grace.

When everything comes out I wouldn't be surprised if Grace isn't a villain at all and Sandman/Harry are the 2 baddies.But if he is I hope it would be Electro.

 

[CrimeMaster!]

Heres what I would picture Quentin Beck looking like in real life.

 

[buford]

And you believe IMDB? I'll believe he's playing Venom when Raimi confirms it.

Topher Grace is Venom.

This info comes from people associated with casting at Sony in Los Angeles. They've had him do screen tests opposite some Gwen Stacy candidates. And he's done readings with other cast members. This has happened over the past two weeks.

This is a done deal.

 

[buford]

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[Toren]

Heres what I would picture Quentin Beck looking like in real life.

Pointy ears and all?

Topher Grace is Venom.

This info comes from people associated with casting at Sony in Los Angeles. They've had him do screen tests opposite some Gwen Stacy candidates. And he's done readings with other cast members. This has happened over the past two weeks.

This is a done deal.

This is news to me (and most people here). Where'd ya get this info?

 

[Symbiotica]

"Venom" is reading lines opposite "Gwen Stacy candidates"?! What the **** does Venom have to do with Gwen Stacy!

It has been a long time since I have seen such a flagrant, arrant LIE out here. "Done deal," my...... the only "done deal" I see is a bunch of really bad lying! If you're going to think up a lie, at least make it a good one!

 

[Superman \S/]

Topher Grace is Venom.

This info comes from people associated with casting at Sony in Los Angeles. They've had him do screen tests opposite some Gwen Stacy candidates. And he's done readings with other cast members. This has happened over the past two weeks.

This is a done deal.

Yeah right thats a bold face lie and your full of it i'll believe it once you show all of us a link.

 

[TheSlag]

Topher Grace is Venom.

This info comes from people associated with casting at Sony in Los Angeles. They've had him do screen tests opposite some Gwen Stacy candidates. And he's done readings with other cast members. This has happened over the past two weeks.

This is a done deal.

He said the magic "G" word... MUST... NOT... DARE... TO... LOOK... DIRECTLY... AT... SUN... *ARRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHH

 

[Superman \S/]

He said the magic "G" word... MUST... NOT... DARE... TO... LOOK... DIRECTLY... AT... SUN... *ARRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHH

LOL

 

[spiderdroppings]

whats up people i am new here!!! i think all you people who think gay topher grace is venom are smoking too much crack!!

 

[Hugebear]

If Sony confirm him as EB/V, than so be it... I hope he does a good job, and I have said if he is EB/V, I think he will, cause he is a good actor. IMO, he does not fit the character of a mean, pist-off, quick tempered, mad at the world, revengeful, don't give a sh** about life, gotta have it my way or I will kill myself, hunk of mass to me...... Topher looks more like...... a geeky, weak, nine nigh, itch that gets on your nerve, 148lb weakling, that is silly and is comic relief. He looks like he could be PP..... and before you jump in saying thats the point, a mirror image PP/Spidey..... EB/V is not a mirror image in either world(616 or UU). EB/V is the complete opposite of PP/Spidey. Everything PP/Spidey is, EB/V is not. Everything EB/V is, PP/Spidey is not.... so save it, they are not mirror images of each other.... they are on the total opposite side of the spectrum, especially when you add the Symbiot murderous hatred to EB already terrible persona.
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This is exactly why I think he's playing Eddie. He is a good actor that can play the part of a mean, mad at the world, quick tempered Eddie. (616)

Also he looks like Peter before he became Spider-man ( weakling, geeky) who gets great power and turns to the dark side. (UU)

 

[Venom'sDad]

This is exactly why I think he's playing Eddie. He is a good actor that can play the part of a mean, mad at the world, quick tempered Eddie. (616)

Also he looks like Peter before he became Spider-man ( weakling, geeky) who gets great power and turns to the dark side. (UU)

No... thats not the point, because many of you conveniently, in an attempt to say he UU Eddie, leave out the fact that Eddie's name has been dropped and mention in SM1.... meaning he's not a college student as in the UU, he is established as a writer/photographer as in the Classic(616)....which btw is a much older person....mid 30's.

 

[TheSlag]

No... thats not the point, because many of you conveniently, in an attempt to say he UU Eddie, leave out the fact that Eddie's name has been dropped and mention in SM1.... meaning he's not a college student as in the UU, he is established as a writer/photographer as in the Classic(616)....which btw is a much older person....mid 30's.

1) they mentioned "Eddie", not Eddie Brock
2) IF they choose to make Eddie Brock a photographer, competing with Peter, hating Spidey, etc... does not necessarially mean they will NOT go with the Ultimate Symbiote Origin.

That said, I don't think, and I CERTAINLY don't hope that they go with the Ultimate Symbiote origin... that IMO, would be a mistake. Unfortunately... it would not be the first one they have made, and probably would not be the last either.

 

[MartellMan]

Heres what I would picture Quentin Beck looking like in real life.

now that spocks older he looks even more like him!
Live long and Prosper!

Spock rules!

 

[buford]

"Venom" is reading lines opposite "Gwen Stacy candidates"?! What the **** does Venom have to do with Gwen Stacy!

It has been a long time since I have seen such a flagrant, arrant LIE out here. "Done deal," my...... the only "done deal" I see is a bunch of really bad lying! If you're going to think up a lie, at least make it a good one!

Sigh.

Everyone who's a Spidey fan knows that Gwen Stacy didn't have anything to do with Eddie Brock in the original comic. But I think many of you assume that Raimi et al are always doing an exact adaption of the comic. You would be wrong in that assumption.

At present, from what I've heard, they are doing screen tests with Grace (playing Eddie Brock/Venom) and Gwen Stacy candidates. You can draw whatever conclusions you'd like as to why they are screen testing those actors together in those roles.

And as for a link, there is no link. The only link that people are going to find from non-official sites - from Chud.com, Dark Horizons, SuperHerohype, etc. - are all based on rumors they're hearing from people involved with the film. This is no different.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Wait for the official news, and come back and ridicule me if this turns out to be wrong. And if it's right, you can say what you'd like - that I got lucky and guessed, or that maybe, just maybe I knew some people involved with the film.

 

[Venom'sDad]

1) they mentioned "Eddie", not Eddie Brock
2) IF they choose to make Eddie Brock a photographer, competing with Peter, hating Spidey, etc... does not necessarially mean they will NOT go with the Ultimate Symbiote Origin.

That said, I don't think, and I CERTAINLY don't hope that they go with the Ultimate Symbiote origin... that IMO, would be a mistake. Unfortunately... it would not be the first one they have made, and probably would not be the last either.

1) We all know who they were talking about.... don't kid yourself

2) Let me make myself more clear, because you probably didn't understand what I was saying, you would have to go further back to do so. If TG is EB/V it would be the UU version as far as appearence, age, size, etc; however, Eddie & the Symbiot history would come from the Classic(616). He would not be a college student and the SYM will not be created in the lab.