Eternals Rotten Tomatoes watch thread

I am also wondering if maybe this one might be a bit too comic book for critics and maybe audiences. The MCU has done a great job of making these palatable for audiences, but maybe the giant space gods creating the universe and such is too silly for many people and it is just too niche?
I don't think it's a matter of being too silly. I think it's a matter of the movie, for the lack of a better word, going pretentious about it. If it was silly but they just addressed it as part of the lore that'd be one thing, but from the reviews (and I haven't seen the movie yet) it seemed they tried to make a larger point about humanity and it didn't click with a lot of people.
 
I don't think it's a matter of being too silly. I think it's a matter of the movie, for the lack of a better word, going pretentious about it. If it was silly but they just addressed it as part of the lore that'd be one thing, but from the reviews (and I haven't seen the movie yet) it seemed they tried to make a larger point about humanity and it didn't click with a lot of people.

Which is fair enough. My prediction is I am going to really enjoy the movie, but I am less convinced the general movie goer will.
 
Which is fair enough. My prediction is I am going to really enjoy the movie, but I am less convinced the general movie goer will.
I actually think it still has a decent shot at it though. Critics were equally mixed on Bohemian Rhapsody but the audience loves it.

I think the same reasons critics don't like it (which is they didn't go full-out on their concepts and the way they introduced them came across as surface level) will be the reason general audiences like it;it'll have enough there for general audiences to perceive it as going beyond the genre, but it'll also give them the same old stuff they're used to getting.
 
People thought the Reeds or Watts' of the world would deliver Marvel's first rotten but it turns out it was the oscar winner. Funny that
 
People thought the Reeds or Watts' of the world would deliver Marvel's first rotten but it turns out it was the oscar winner. Funny that

Yes. That's what's shocking about it. Zhao is by far and away the most credentialed director the MCU has ever had.
 
Its back to 60% (117 reviews) now, so its fresh for the time being.

I think its gonna be on a knife's edge as to whether it ends up fresh or rotten.
 
Di$ney has enough goodwill (and clout) to pullup the RT score back to 60%, but it will be interesting to see the score dipping back to 59 % every now and then.
 
I don't trust the critics, or some "fans" tbqh.

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It was review bombed from both sides
 
Review bombing is why audience ratings shouldn't be open until closer to a film's actual release date. This is one thing Rotten Tomatoes did right in recent years to prevent this.
 
Man Of Steel and Hulk are 2 of my favourite CBMs ever, one is rotten the other barely fresh. I also really enjoy both Venom movies and WW84. On the other scale I think The Last Jedi is awful, and Doctor Strange and Ant Man 2 painfully average.

Eternals score really doesn’t bother me that much, it’s more fun watching some people’s meltdowns over this being possibly rotten.
 
Eternals score really doesn’t bother me that much, it’s more fun watching some people’s meltdowns over this being possibly rotten.

You have to hand it to RT. They’ve successfully branded their simple, binary (fresh vs. rotten) approach to movie evaluation. And this is perfect for the modern era in which attention spans are limited and in which quick, definitive answers are prized over time-consuming nuance. Indeed, the general public, media and even studios (when it suits their purposes) seem to acknowledge the Binary Truth of RT’s classifications.

To the extent that aggregate review scores are useful, I prefer the old school designations of “mostly positive,” “mostly mixed” and “mostly negative.” (IMO, this better captures a continuum and the fuzzy boundaries between good, mediocre and bad.) Of course, this is the system that Metacritic employs. But hardly anyone cites Metacritic.
 
You have to hand it to RT. They’ve successfully branded their simple, binary (fresh vs. rotten) approach to movie evaluation. And this is perfect for the modern era in which attention spans are limited and in which quick, definitive answers are prized over time-consuming nuance. Indeed, the general public, media and even studios (when it suits their purposes) seem to acknowledge the Binary Truth of RT’s classifications.

To the extent that aggregate review scores are useful, I prefer the old school designations of “mostly positive,” “mostly mixed” and “mostly negative.” (IMO, this better captures a continuum and the fuzzy boundaries between good, mediocre and bad.) Of course, this is the system that Metacritic employs. But hardly anyone cites Metacritic.
Metacritic is useful for videogames and scores are a big deal to Sony's videogame division.

ButI ignore the site for music, tv and movies.
 
Review bombing is why audience ratings shouldn't be open until closer to a film's actual release date. This is one thing Rotten Tomatoes did right in recent years to prevent this.
The problem is they only open them when a movie is out in the US. Dune was released in half the planet for five weeks and you couldn't vote because it wasn't out in America.
 
Man Of Steel and Hulk are 2 of my favourite CBMs ever, one is rotten the other barely fresh. I also really enjoy both Venom movies and WW84. On the other scale I think The Last Jedi is awful, and Doctor Strange and Ant Man 2 painfully average.

Eternals score really doesn’t bother me that much, it’s more fun watching some people’s meltdowns over this being possibly rotten.

I haven't really seen any meltdowns, at least not on this thread. I think its more that people are surprised to see an MCU movie with the most credentialed director Marvel Studios have ever hired get the worst critical response of any film in the franchise's history.
 
You have to hand it to RT. They’ve successfully branded their simple, binary (fresh vs. rotten) approach to movie evaluation. And this is perfect for the modern era in which attention spans are limited and in which quick, definitive answers are prized over time-consuming nuance. Indeed, the general public, media and even studios (when it suits their purposes) seem to acknowledge the Binary Truth of RT’s classifications.

You do realise that RT list all of the reviews for any given film on their site, right? Meaning that anyone can assess the reviews for themselves. They also give an average review score in addition to the percentage, which often gives a better indication of how positive/negative the critical response was overall.

I find it astonishing how many folks reserve a special level of hatred for RT when literally all they do is look at reviews from OTHER people and aggregate their scores. I'm not aware that they claim to be the last word on film criticism.
 
I haven't really seen any meltdowns, at least not on this thread. I think its more that people are surprised to see an MCU movie with the most credentialed director Marvel Studios have ever hired get the worst critical response of any film in the franchise's history.

Not meltdowns per se but some MCU fans who previously swore by RT suddenly changing their tune, with some even criticising the hiring of Zhao.
 
I haven't really seen any meltdowns, at least not on this thread. I think its more that people are surprised to see an MCU movie with the most credentialed director Marvel Studios have ever hired get the worst critical response of any film in the franchise's history.

I've seen meltdowns over the RT meter but mostly on Twitter, and Twitter is a toxic place all about meltdowns.
 
Review bombing is why audience ratings shouldn't be open until closer to a film's actual release date. This is one thing Rotten Tomatoes did right in recent years to prevent this.

I would go further, and just abandon audience ratings entirely. Barring some mechanism to confirm that an individual person has actually seen the movie, anyway ( an audience rating system tied to something like AMC A-List, so each purchased ticket can make one review? ). The signal to noise ratio has grown way too bad to get much useful information from it.
 

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