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Eternals Rotten Tomatoes watch thread

Oh, no question about that. My main point is, I don't think it's fair to solely lay the blame on Chloe Zhao's experience with the genre. These films are largely collaborative, and there'd be plenty of experts on hand to help with stuff like fight choreography, VFX all that stuff. I'd say it's maybe less about her familiarity with the genre and more just the overall scope and size of the movie. As I said in a previous post, once your movie is upwards of 2 1/2 hours, it becomes very, very difficult to maintain the pace. Most reviews seem to indicate the film falls away in the 3rd act so I'd say it's more of a scope/pacing issue.

I'd be willing to bet they knew it was too long but due to the complex/ambitious nature of the plot, they found they couldn't lose as much in the edit as they would've wanted without causing problems.

If there is a problem the MCU has, it is a 3rd act problem. Even great films like Black Panther or Shang-Chi fall prey to this. Wonderful Act 1 and 2 which devolves into a messy CGI battle at the end. So if this is a problem with Eternals, I think it is in general a Marvel problem.
 
62% is not that bad a score if you’re talking about a Snyder DC film but it is a bad score when you’re talking about a movie that’s part of the biggest franchise in the world with a unprecedented winning streak of consistently certified fresh scores that’s directed by a beloved Oscar Winning director that as little as a few months ago many assumed was good enough that (like it’s MCU brethren Black Panther) was going to be nominated for an Oscar for best picture. In the interest of a nuanced discussion, even if the movie’s score dips into rotten territory of the 50’s which seems more than likely at this point, it will still have mostly positive reviews but…it’s still very shocking that this film is now a few hairs away from joining the rotten score, which if it does reach there, and that’s still an if for now then that will make it the first “rotten” MCU film. Which is disappointing given the expectations.
 
Seems like another "ang lee" situation. Big deal overhyped director who is a poor fit for the material makes a mess of a film that pleases no one.

And because they are overhyped and walk on water no one was able to reign them in all throughout the process of making this disaster.
 
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Anyway even if a score for a mcu film is 62% is still not a bad score.
Keep in mind half of the mcu films in phase 1 and 2 have less then 80% rt score.
It's not until phase 3 that most mcu films have a rt score higher then a 79%.
Keep in mind phase 4 mcu films overall have higher rt scores then early phase 2.
The anti sjw's by the way are saying phase 1 and 2 are better on average but looking at the average critic and audience scores most disagree.
Phase 3 and phase 4 including the canon disney plus shows on average have higher scores
I think some folks have gotten spoiled with really very high rt scores over the pass recent years.
The dceu would love to have most of their films in 70's.
Heck not even aquaman rt score is in the 70's.
 
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Wasn’t the movie done filming when she won that Oscar? I had never even heard of her before the Oscar win
 
The critical reception makes me even more curious to watch this. I have a hard time believing that this movie is worse than the Ant Man and Spider-Man films, which the critics ate up.
 
For me it’s more interesting to see this test case of “MCU brand vs critics” on which one has a bigger box office pull, than the movie itself. Too bad we are still in the thick of the pandemic so the BO figures will be skewed. My bet is this will trend down to rotten but BO wise will still be second biggest for Marvel related releases this year behind Spider-Man.
 
It’s funny considering how old the mcu at this point and people still think these directors have any real power in this machine.

Zhao was appointed before her Oscar win, it’s only after she won Feige hyped this as a potential Oscar winner.
 
Considering the fact that the director has got an Oscar recently and the goodwill, Disney and Marvel Studios enjoy with the Critics, not to mention winning streak of more than 25+ MCU movies, a low RT percentage of 61 % (all critics) and 50 % (Top Critics) is some what unexpected. But I can overlook that Tomatometer as it just gives percentage of how many Critics recommend the movie vs those who don't.

But what's shocking is the average rating of 5.4/10, which is the average of actual rating (not recommendation percentage).
 
It's not really shocking. By process of elimination, it was bound to happen at some point.

It's not end of the world. You can't hit a home run every time you are at bat. When a franchise runs this long and has this many movies there are bound to be films that don't work or aren't as beloved as others.
 
The earlier reviews are always going to be more positive. Just like with Rise of Skywalker.
 
I've lost hope that this would get a fresh rating, when all things are said and done. Down to 61% and it seriously needs tons of good reviews not to drop in the 50s.

Oh well, there's an eternal 1st for everything.
 
I think it's going to take a lot for this not to drop below 55% with likely only a third of the total reviews in so far.
 
Hanging by a thread! This thread should be renamed Rotten Tomatoes Death Watch. :oldrazz:
Its interesting how there's so much discussion about its Rt rating. Rt rating wasn't such a heated discussion to Black Widow and Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. Yeah I knew it would be a big deal once a MCU film gets a rotten rating. Hopefully MCU could repeat its 25 movie streak after this one.
 
It can go either way, but honestly I kind of want it to be rotten just to see the meltdowns on Twitter from MCU fanboys. :funny:

A bigger meltdown is if this happened to their Xmen movie..The irony will be too epic.

A rotton MCU will humble some of the fanboys, make them less arrogant and braggy, should have happend much sooner though..Im expecting more especially with all these 5 films a year plans..They have to slow down.
 
it will be rotten. marvel better prepare "marvle's first rotten, check it out youself, see it on theater" promotion angle. lol
 
I don't think Marvel have problem with Chloe Zhao. and I wouldn't be surprised IF they work with her again. lots of strength of the film come from her direction. visuals, drama, emotion.

the biggest problem Critics are saying were having 10 new characters and the original source (story) material was too huge. those are more of marvel's problem.

and all of the actors praised her like not just lip service, but real praise.
kevin and nate, marvel team also praised her.
 

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