Drama Royal Pains

[Doctor Jones]

I can see both sides of the argument. And that's what makes it great for tv. For Hank and Eddie. I can see that Eddie has come back in his life and wants to make up for what he has done. He's dong the right thing. But I can't blame Hank and what he's been through to be acting the way he is. Carrrnuttt obviously knows about this more than anyone else does on here. So it's not saying Hank needs to stop whining. It takes alot more than that.

 

[RogueDK]

I had a father that left me and my mom when I was 4. I will be 36 this year, and I have yet to forgive him. I don't think I ever will. It made it worse that we were close when he was around, as it seemed it was with Hank and Eddie. And to top it off, Hank had to bear the brunt of fatherhood [taking care of Evan] and the pain of his mother's illness and death all at once, mostly by himself.

Let's just say I'm completely on Hank's side on this one.

Small world. Mine did too but I forgave him long ago; hell I was my own man by then so he held no power over me anymore. Made me stronger and more independant as a result of it seeing I refuse to do the same to my kids now.

But everyone reacts differently with this sort of thing...but I know a little something about abandonment myself.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Another abandoned kid speaking.

Yeah, I forgave my old man, but I still don't want to see him in my face all day. My older brother actually got back in contact with him and I was momentarily pissed.


In the context of the show, I'm glad Eddie spoke up for himself in terms of living his own life, but Hank does need to be careful. Any fallout from Eddie's possible scheme will damage his business and hurt his little brother.


Hello, hot blonde doctor.

 

[RogueDK]

Another abandoned kid speaking.

Yeah, I forgave my old man, but I still don't want to see him in my face all day. My older brother actually got back in contact with him and I was momentarily pissed.

Sounds like what my other two brothers did with the same reactions; older brother being the pissed one though . I guess I was always in my own little world so it never really fazed me. My dad's dead now so it doesn't matter anymore.

In the context of the show, I'm glad Eddie spoke up for himself in terms of living his own life, but Hank does need to be careful. Any fallout from Eddie's possible scheme will damage his business and hurt his little brother.

I just don't want to think that the writers/producers would cast someone like Henry Winkler, get us all liking him for the duration as he mends the bridge with his children, just to pull the slimebag card right at the end with him. Maybe with another type actor but Winkler?

I'd like to think that they're making his redemption sincere and the healing process has started over the span of how many shows. I could be wrong...

 

[Doctor Jones]

So when do you think Hank will forgive him? They can't make it go on forever I know that. But it has to seem natural and not contrived.

 

[RogueDK]

So when do you think Hank will forgive him? They can't make it go on forever I know that. But it has to seem natural and not contrived.

The beauty about casting someone like Winkler is he can be tolerable over the course of a couple seasons and the possibilities of stories revolving around him and the boys are endless, there's time. Winkler's usually a very well-liked actor. So although I can't/won't expect Hank to completely forgive his dad's past actions, I can expect him to soften his reserve towards him by the middle/end of next summer's eps.

Nothing contrived about that.

 

[wiegeabo]

The beauty about casting someone like Winkler is he can be tolerable over the course of a couple seasons. So although I can't/won't expect Hank to completely forgive his dad's past actions, I can expect him to soften his reserve towards him by the middle/end of next summer's eps.

Nothing contrived about that.

I would go for that. Eddie seems to have at least some redeemable qualities, even though some of the stuff he's doing now seems sketchy without quite being dishonest yet. It's going to make for some interesting stuff to come.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I could see that working. Yeah, I don't see him completely breaking down and hugging him or shrugging and saying, "I'm sorry dad. We good?"

Like you said, he may not forgive him completely but will soften up to him. I think we'll eventually see Hank cracking a smile with him around. But gradually.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I just don't want to think that the writers/producers would cast someone like Henry Winkler, get us all liking him for the duration as he mends the bridge with his children, just to pull the slimebag card right at the end with him. Maybe with another type actor but Winkler?

I'd like to think that they're making his redemption sincere and the healing process has started over the span of how many shows. I could be wrong...

I think Eddie's a schemer. Can't see him holding a 9-5 job. I think he will try to make some grand gesture of forgiveness and get Hank MED involved him come crap accidently( investors or something). It will blow up in their faces and will have to pick up the pieces. Not a bad guy, but not necessarily someone they can have in their lives too closely.

 

[RogueDK]

I think Eddie's a schemer. Can't see him holding a 9-5 job. I think he will try to make some grand gesture of forgiveness and get Hank MED involved him come crap accidently( investors or something). It will blow up in their faces and will have to pick up the pieces. Not a bad guy, but not necessarily someone they can have in their lives too closely.

The writers have already made that clear to the viewers that Eddie isn't the stable type hence him vamping out on his kids and the near crash and burn of the Hank Med investment Evan entrusted him with. You're supposed to react that way if you have any sense about anything (not you personally, my friend).

Even Eddie realized that he had that punch coming from Hank. He deserved it.

But introducing him to the show just to show that he's beyond irreputable repair makes no sense to me. His addition to the show was about closure and reconciliation; to what degree, we'll see.

You are welcome to dog me if I'm wrong. t:

 

[TheComicbookKid]

But introducing him to the show just to show that he's beyond irreputable repair makes no sense to me. His addition to the show was about closure and reconciliation; to what degree, we'll see.

I agree with that to an extent. I'm saying Hank and Eddie's relationship will be different will all is said and done, but I'm not convinced it's going to swing from punch to face to hugs. More like understanding nod/smile or handshake.

 

[RogueDK]

^^^I never said anyone would be hugging and oh, happy day stuff, just a better admiration for one another before parting ways.

I keep having this feeling that Eddie R. may have returned because he's terminally ill but the writer's don't want to force such a contrivance on the viewers after just a few of shows. Sounds a little cliche'd I know. Just a thought.

 

[Prison Mike]

So who here also thought that Faith was pretty hot?

 

[TheComicbookKid]

^^^I never said anyone would be hugging and oh, happy day stuff, just a better admiration for one another before parting ways.

Oh, sorry. Figured since this was USA they'd go for the best possible ending.

Nice reference.

I keep having this feeling that Eddie R. may have returned because he's terminally ill but the writer's don't want to force such a contrivance on the viewers after just a few of shows. Sounds a little cliche'd I know. Just a thought.

I really hope they don't go that route.

 

[carrrnuttt]

Small world. Mine did too but I forgave him long ago; hell I was my own man by then so he held no power over me anymore. Made me stronger and more independant as a result of it seeing I refuse to do the same to my kids now.

My situation was more along the lines of...when I finally got to meet him again when I was 16, looking from a bit more analytical standpoint. At least a lot more than when I was 4--I realized what a Grade A *****ebag he was and is. Instead of being sorry about what he's done to me and my mom, he insisted that I should be thanking him for letting me stay with him and his new family. I left for the military within a year-and-a-half with him "assisting" (as in giving me a boot to the backside). Mind you, I was a straight A student, and not some troublemaker.

So somewhat similar to what Hank got when he found out that his company's money was gone (seeing his dad again, and feeling that he's still a *****e). However, Eddie seems to be genuinely sorry for what he's done and wants to sincerely reconnect with his sons, so he has that redeeming quality. I can definitely see Hank at least being tolerant of him later on. But up to that point, I'm going to be on Hank's side, no matter what he decides.

 

[RogueDK]

My situation was more along the lines of...when I finally got to meet him again when I was 16, looking from a bit more analytical standpoint. At least a lot more than when I was 4--I realized what a Grade A *****ebag he was and is. Instead of being sorry about what he's done to me and my mom, he insisted that I should be thanking him for letting me stay with him and his new family. I left for the military within a year-and-a-half with him "assisting" (as in giving me a boot to the backside). Mind you, I was a straight A student, and not some troublemaker.

Sorry about your circumstance but look at it from a positive view: He did you a favor by not being around where you might've seen this earlier on at a more impressionable age. Made a better man out of you for it too.

I'm willing to bet you that there are a large percentage of people, perhaps a few posters here, who wished that their fathers had have left them high and dry and saved them the trouble of rearing. You see a jerk is still just that- a jerk. That's regardless on whether he stays or strays.

People are sometimes raised by guys who have no business siring kids at all and they sometimes stay around for the duration of their kid's childhoods. I had classmates growing up with dads in the home that ranged from wife-beaters to straight-out a-holes. There's no guarantee that if a father stays in the home that all will be pleasant and harmonious. And here's the sad thing, most children end up perpetuating those negative behaviors even when it's not their intention to.

As a kid, hearing and seeing a few of those examples, I thought I came out pretty lucky.

Alot of people side with Hank in this because it's real and according to some, quite personal.

 

[Matt]

Right. I don't condone Eddie's past wrongs of how he left his family but it was great seeing him take back some dignity by refusing any longer to be Hank's doormat. I feel his looking for redemption is sincere so I hope the writers don't pull something in the end to make him look like any more of a scumbag...especially since he's been well-received by viewers of the show.

You'd be surprised just how many fans on various sites don't want Hank to forgive his dad and that's stretching it just a little too far. It probably hits home with alot of them.

The thing is though, we've yet to figure out if Eddie is sincere or not. From what we know, Eddie is a con man. He could just be working a grift and Hank could be right about him.

 

[Doctor Jones]

That would be pretty damn twisted if that was the case. That last scene between the two, Eddie looked sincere. Then again, yeah, he is a con man, but if he ****ed them over, that would be a damn shame. I don't think that would work. Plus for story purposes, it would make Hank even more pissed and we could forget about tolerence at the very least. Then it would be redundant.

 

[RogueDK]

The thing is though, we've yet to figure out if Eddie is sincere or not. From what we know, Eddie is a con man. He could just be working a grift and Hank could be right about him.

That's the direction the writers wanted to establish and take us; it doesn't necessarily mean that that's how it will end.

Like Doctor Jones just said, that would be a twisted avenue to take with Eddie R. after he really looked sincere to attone for his past transgressions. To have some malevolent scheme up his sleeve now just to ruin his sons' lives once again would be a little too dark for the texture of this series. A con man can still sincerely love his kids.

Eddie means to do right by them but he might catch hell proving it in the process...especially with Hank so therein lies the journey.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Yeah, if he ****ed them over you can forget any signs of Hank even being around him and we would start all over again and it would be worse. That's redundancy.

 

[Matt]

I think it will be something in the middle. Eddie is there to con them but will eventually back out on his plan due to the fact that he geniunely cares for his sons.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Do you think Hank or Evan would find out if that would be the case?

 

[Gilpesh]

Clearly Evan will find out that his dad is trying to steal their money for real (if there actually is a plot behind him coming back).

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm kind of thinking that Eddie showed up to mooch off of them but is genuinely starting to crave a connection to his sons again because of how Evan has embraced him. If anything, I think Hank's disapproval might cause him to do something stupid (like run another con on the boys) for revenge.

 

[RogueDK]

If anything, I think Hank's disapproval might cause him to do something stupid (like run another con on the boys) for revenge.

God I hope not; that's kind of action makes the character lower than scum. Scamming your own kids for spite? I don't think the show will go that harsh.

Besides, Winkler has always looked to me like that favorite uncle one might have that gives you money and tells tall tales.

He won't be an immoral villian on this show...I hope not.