The Amazing Spider-Man Rules for the Reboot

[TheSlag]

Don't forget Aunt May too. She should dislike Spider-Man, not be giving Peter little *wink wink* speeches that imply she knows he's really Spider-Man. And on that line... make Aunt May a true 'responsiblity'. In Raimi's version, she seemed pretty capable of taking care of herself (for the most part) and she really wasn't one of the things Peter needed to worry about. For example, I couldn't see Raimi's Aunt May getting scammed by Doc Ock.

Great Point!! Totally agree. That approach really takes away from how difficult it is for Peter to live up to his "Great Responsibilty". Similiar to the storyline where Gwen blames Spider-Man for the death of her father.

Again, in spite of everyone involved (Sony, new director, etc.) calling it a reboot. But then, I'm sure you're more informed than they are.

Is it any wonder why I love you so??? t:

 

[DACMAN]

Marc Webb, use this song in Spider-Man, it fits Peter Parker perfectly!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-dZ4Pwl6gY .

That song is garbage. Seriously. It's terrible.

 

[chaseter]

YOU were the one making the CLAIM that it was NOT a reboot, I am simply taking them at their word, and IT MAKES SENSE TOO. Since you are making the claim that it is NOT A REBOOT.. the burden of proof lies with you.

I did say that this isn't looking like a reboot...because what makes you think it is a reboot

 

[chaseter]

Again, in spite of everyone involved (Sony, new director, etc.) calling it a reboot. But then, I'm sure you're more informed than they are.

That was when it was going to be in High School and Bendis was heavily involved. Then Sargent comes back in to retool the script, we found out that it was in college, we find out that MJ will be the love interest again, and then Garfield was hired. So what are we supposed to think

I guess that makes me more informed than they are...because I pay attention As of right now, with all the info we have, it looks like a continuation because there is nothing that points to it being a reboot.

 

[socool]

That song is garbage. Seriously. It's terrible.

i agree ten fold. that is the worst song to use. even Joel Schumacher knew not to use something as stupid as that.

 

[Flint Marko]

That would have looked just as silly and laughable in a live action movie. Seeing a green scaled man with a purse coming at me from the sky would look lame.

And get rid of that beanie cap. That would look ******ed on screen. Give him a hood or something.

And anyway my original point was despite the costume Dafoe's portrayal was really good.

I don't know what you're basing this on. Hollywood has made some ridiculous ideas look convincing on screen. They could find a way to make the classic Green Goblin's suit look awesome on screen, beanie and all.

That was when it was going to be in High School and Bendis was heavily involved. Then Sargent comes back in to retool the script, we found out that it was in college, we find out that MJ will be the love interest again, and then Garfield was hired. So what are we supposed to think

I guess that makes me more informed than they are...because I pay attention As of right now, with all the info we have, it looks like a continuation because there is nothing that points to it being a reboot.

Um...how about the fact that it's been called a reboot since day one and we've been given no reason to think that has changed? Why would you now think that because of a change in story details that it's a continuation? Thats quite a big assumption my friend.

 

[NinjaCarm]

That song is garbage. Seriously. It's terrible.

I love that song you won't change my mind.

 

[DACMAN]

I'm not here to change your mind, just inform you.

 

[DACMAN]

I did say that this isn't looking like a reboot...because what makes you think it is a reboot

Um...how about the fact that it's been called a reboot since day one and we've been given no reason to think that has changed? Why would you now think that because of a change in story details that it's a continuation? Thats quite a big assumption my friend.

chaseter just got owned!

Seriously, I've given up on chaseter. I've posted links, the film makers are calling it a reboot, and this guy is still in denial. The only thing he's going on is the fact Garfield looks college age. Which still doesn't mean it isn't a reboot. I think the idea that Sony wants to reboot broke his brain or something.

 

[Spider-Vader]

The only way I'll see this as a reboot is if/when Gobbie, Ock, Venom & Sandman appear. I'm really disappointed MJ will be the love interest again (she can be the love interest AFTER Gwen gets killed by Gobbie >:- ( )

 

[chaseter]

Um...how about the fact that it's been called a reboot since day one and we've been given no reason to think that has changed? Why would you now think that because of a change in story details that it's a continuation? Thats quite a big assumption my friend.

So you are going off of what execs have said and I am going off of production details. We will see how that works out. Has anybody high up like Marc Webb or Avi Arad called it a reboot after the script change when Bendis went out and Sargent came in?

You believe everything Tom Rothman says? What about Avi Arad?

I want this to be a reboot now that a new director and cast crew are in, I want to see Doc Ock again, he is my favorite Spidey villain, but I have no reason to believe what they tell you when everything that is happening points another way. What is the point of a reboot if nothing is going to change?

 

[socool]

So you are going off of what execs have said and I am going off of production details. We will see how that works out. Has anybody high up like Marc Webb or Avi Arad called it a reboot after the script change when Bendis went out and Sargent came in?

You believe everything Tom Rothman says? What about Avi Arad?

I want this to be a reboot now that a new director and cast crew are in, I want to see Doc Ock again, he is my favorite Spidey villain, but I have no reason to believe what they tell you when everything that is happening points another way. What is the point of a reboot if nothing is going to change?

you are ridiculous. seriously. i think you need to get your brain checked. that was the most paranoid post ever. "do you really believe what the execs say?" why would they lie about that?!

 

[NinjaCarm]

I'm not here to change your mind, just inform you.

Inform me of your opinion, which I don't agree with, which is fine. At least we agree the reboot was warranted.

 

[chaseter]

you are ridiculous. seriously. i think you need to get your brain checked. that was the most paranoid post ever. "do you really believe what the execs say?" why would they lie about that?!

How was X3 for you? How was Spider-Man 3 for you? What did you think of Wolverine? What about Fantastic Four 2?

Now what did the people working on that movie say about them?

I would rather be paranoid than be in denial. If you think Sony execs aren't going to have their hand in this movie, if you think Avi Arad and Laura Zirskin aren't going to do what they want, if you think Webb has complete creative control then you are in denial.

I guess I need to start believing what Tom Rothman, Avi Arad and Laura Zirskin are telling me. You may be right.

 

[DACMAN]

So you are going off of what execs have said and I am going off of production details.

Please enlighten us.

 

[socool]

How was X3 for you? How was Spider-Man 3 for you? What did you think of Wolverine? What about Fantastic Four 2?

Now what did the people working on that movie say about them?

I would rather be paranoid than be in denial. If you think Sony execs aren't going to have their hand in this movie, if you think Avi Arad and Laura Zirskin aren't going to do what they want, if you think Webb has complete creative control then you are in denial.

I guess I need to start believing what Tom Rothman, Avi Arad and Laura Zirskin are telling me. You may be right.

What do people working on ANY movie say? All bad movies have execs that say good things. Superhero movies aren't the only.

Of course they are gonna have their hand in this movie. When don't they?

Just because those movie were bad doesn't mean that you have to automatically believe everything they say is a lie. This movie is a reboot, deal with it.

 

[chaseter]

Please enlighten us.

Read above.

What do people working on ANY movie say? All bad movies have execs that say good things. Superhero movies aren't the only.

Of course they are gonna have their hand in this movie. When don't they?

Just because those movie were bad doesn't mean that you have to automatically believe everything they say is a lie. This movie is a reboot, deal with it.

Deal with what? I already said I wanted this to be a reboot after Raimi left But, I am not going to sit and listen to people selling this movie telling me to look one way while they do other things because I have fallen for that enough already and I have learned my lesson.

It is exactly like Dacman saying SM4 was going to suck before he knew anything about it so it is hilarious that he thinks my cautionary stance on this movie is wrong because he was in here every day saying SM4 would suck. Then he comes in saying people aren't true Spider-Fan fans when they are thinking this new movie will suck.

I want Webb, any director for that matter, to have their own creative freedoms to do what they want to do. That is what makes great movies. That is why it needs to be a full reboot, allowing Webb to make 3 or 4 movies the way he wants them. But, all of these small details have me questioning whether or not this is a full on reboot.

 

[Flint Marko]

So you are going off of what execs have said and I am going off of production details.

We are going off what we've been told by people involved in the making of the movie and you're basing it off minor details. Just because they're studio execs doesn't mean that everything that comes out of their mouth is a blatant lie.

We will see how that works out. Has anybody high up like Marc Webb or Avi Arad called it a reboot after the script change when Bendis went out and Sargent came in?

I don't think they've had reason to address it necessarily, it's already been said. No need to reiterate what's already out there. Has anybody high up like Marc Webb or Avi Arad called it a continuation after the script change when Bendis went out and Sargent came in? Nope. So why not stick with what we've been told?
Let me ask you this question Chaseter, what direction do you think they're gonna go in here? Sort of an Incredible Hulk thing where the first one kinda happened, Batman begins where everything just starts over, or what?

 

[Crook]

Studio execs and production can fib/lie on certain details of the movie. That's practically standard procedure. But classifying the movie as a continuation or a reboot is cut-and-dry. There's no interpretive judgment befalling that question. It's one or the other.

There's no point in deceiving people about that aspect. I couldn't care less how many similarities we have with Raimi's take at this point. That goes with the territory of it being a Spidey film. It's starting off point in the timeline has no bearing on what direction it will take.

 

[chaseter]

Changing the setting from High School to college is not a minor detail. Searching for MJ to be the main love interest again is not a minor detail. Having the man who wrote SM1, SM2 and SM3 come in to rewrite this movie is not a minor detail. Those are very big things.

When we first heard that Webb was on and that Bendis was consulting, I thought this was going to be a full on reboot, starting all over. From what I see now at this moment, I think they are going the Bond route and just continuing the franchise by recasting but keeping in line with pseudo continuity of the last films. I sort of agree with your Hulk reference and I think that would be a good comparison as well. They did retcon some things in TIH but they kept in line with a lot of stuff that had already been established. TIH seemed like it occurred after the events of the previous movie.

 

[Flint Marko]

You do bring up an interesting point Chaseter: by changing the setting to college, essentially they're saying Pete's been spidey for a while now. That presents a very interesting challenge to the film makers as to how they'll address exactly what happened in that gap between when he became spider-man to when he went into college. A continuation such as what happened with the hulk series? It's not UNlikely, I'll give you that. But I still just don't see that happening. Oh well, its way to early to tell.

 

[Crook]

Doesn't really matter where in the timeline it is. All it takes is a few half-dozen instances that contradict the Raimi series, and suddenly it's apparent this is a new take.

 

[spider-neil]

it's true, sony have called this a reboot from day one but if MJ is cast and gwen isn't then that (to me at least) will scream continuation. much like the difference between hulk and the incredible hulk, there was no reason whatsoever to reboot the movie because there isn't enough of a distiction between the two story lines.

 

[TheSlag]

The point in time (wheter Peter is in high school, college or wherever) has no bearing on whether this is a reboot or not. If Harry Osborn and Norman Osborn are dead, then there is potential to debate that this is a continuation of Raimi's verse.

And IF Harry and Norman are dead, and NOT in this REBOOT, then the powers that be, Webb included are out of their minds, and setting themselves up for failure.

BUT, I THINK NOT! Hell, I basically KNOW NOT!

And did I miss some press release that stated that the reboot will have MJ as the ONLY/PRIMARY Love interest??

Again, I think not, but if I did, please someone point it out... AGAIN.. where she is the ONLY love interest, not where it says she will be "a" love interest.

 

[DACMAN]

Doesn't really matter where in the timeline it is. All it takes is a few half-dozen instances that contradict the Raimi series, and suddenly it's apparent this is a new take.

Your sig is extremely offensive. Not to mention way to long to be in your sig. Your sig is the kind of stuff that makes me think about contacting the FBI to investigate.