Safe Haven for Those Who Demand More

Herr Logan said:
I'm aware of this. :mad:

The point of my thread is to keep hope alive in our imaginations. Are you telling me it's pointless to dream?

:wolverine

No I love this thread. It is just a shame none of these ideas will ever be heard by the companies that produce these films. The same recycled crap will keep going on and on.
 
BlackHardKnight said:
No I love this thread. It is just a shame none of these ideas will ever be heard by the companies that produce these films. The same recycled crap will keep going on and on.
Not necessarily. I plan to be making comic book movies in the future. I have ideas for a lot of trilogies.
 
Herr Logan said:
All the anime I've been pestered to watch by my fanatic friend has left me completely cold to it. BTAS was a superior cartoon for far more reasons than it having been animated by various Asian production companies.
Anime may well be an aquired taste. I am sorry to hear it left you cold.

On BTAS... sure there were more reasons. I've seen plenty of cartoons that mimic anime that don't have the same level of class. All I meant was that there was a level of daring... a bit more risk taking and a little less bean counting than there was in the X-man series.

Or, rather, in what I saw of the series. I haven't seen all that much and might well be slandering the show.
Herr Logan said:
I'm way ahead of you. :)

:wolverine
No kidding. Par for the course, I say.:up:
 
BlackHardKnight said:
No I love this thread. It is just a shame none of these ideas will ever be heard by the companies that produce these films. The same recycled crap will keep going on and on.

Yes, it is a shame. It's such a waste of time, effort and money that I'd go so far as to say it is evil to make sub-par movies that cost hundreds of millions of movies that don't even scratch the surface of the potential of these characters and stories. I'm not against spending a lot of money on art that is truly exceptional, but if it's deliberately made to be mediocre and costs that much, then that's a criminal act as far as I'm concerned. Either make an amazing movie or feed the world, but don't give me this lowest-common-denominator crap and tell me it's "perfect" or "realistic"!

:wolverine
 
Now Herr, I'll have you know that Spider-Man 3 is not just perfect, it's not just realistic, it's PERFECTLY REALISTIC. Just take a look at the teaser trailer.
 
Zev said:
Now Herr, I'll have you know that Spider-Man 3 is not just perfect, it's not just realistic, it's PERFECTLY REALISTIC. Just take a look at the teaser trailer.

Who knew that Spider-Man was in fact a Power Ranger.

Or that is one hell of a bill Parker owes to Stark.
 
Herr Logan said:
Yes, it is a shame. It's such a waste of time, effort and money that I'd go so far as to say it is evil to make sub-par movies that cost hundreds of millions of movies that don't even scratch the surface of the potential of these characters and stories. I'm not against spending a lot of money on art that is truly exceptional, but if it's deliberately made to be mediocre and costs that much, then that's a criminal act as far as I'm concerned. Either make an amazing movie or feed the world, but don't give me this lowest-common-denominator crap and tell me it's "perfect" or "realistic"!

:wolverine

It also lies with the public they just keep eat this **** up.
 
Zev said:
Now Herr, I'll have you know that Spider-Man 3 is not just perfect, it's not just realistic, it's PERFECTLY REALISTIC. Just take a look at the teaser trailer.

My Quicktime isn't working right now. :(

:wolverine
 
Herr Logan said:
Is that a question?

Depends.Did you have an answer for it?

By the way, my arguing against your statements regarding my idea is in no way intended to get you to stop commenting. I appreciate very much that you're discussing this and giving it due consideration. :up:

:wolverine


I know that.You couldnt scare me away even if you wanted to.;)
 
Kni-Ton said:
Thanks!

My idea for a Fantastic Four movie is a lot larger in scale than the 2005 film. It is more epic, and fantastic. There is no holding back, an evident flaw in the 2005 film which obviously made the entire film an origin so they wouldn't have to go epic right away.

It begins with Reed Richards and Victor Von Doom in college. They are room-mates. There is an obvious tension between the two of them. Reed just wants to be friends and likes to help Doom with his projects. But Doom obviousloy does not think much of friendship and wants to work alone. One night Reed hears something in the college lab, he gets up and investigates. He sees Doom in the lab, working on a strange machine. He questions Doom. Doom is shocked at Reed's prescence, and immediately gets hostile. Reed tries to calm the situation down by asking exactly what Doom is making (he knows Doom loves to gloat). Doom explains he has created a machine that can open a portal to another dimension, and that it is finally ready and he plans to open it. Reed tries to talk him out of it, and it leads to a fight. In the scuffle, the portal is accidentally opened. Doom starts cackling with glee, yelling about how he has built something far superior to what Reed has ever built. Reed tries to turn off the machine, but Doom pushes him away. Doom does not notice the portal is starting to get eratic. Energy shoots out, and blasts Doom in the face. Reed turns off the machine. Immediately security comes in to handle the situation. Doom leaves the college to go back home to Latveria. Reed is racked with guilt in how he failed to stop the machine, which injured Victor.

Fast forward years later. Reed is an accomplished scientist and lives with his girlfriend, Sue Storm. He has a good friendship with Ben Grimm, an air force pilot. Johnny, Sue's little brother, usually hangs around.

Victor Von Doom has been appearing in the news a lot. He has grown up to become king of Latveria, and his views often clash with the United Nations.

Reed has been working on an experiment, and it is finally ready. A large scale version of Victor's experiment back in college. A portal to the Negative Zone. Reed plans to lead an expedition into the Negative Zone, with Ben piloting the ship, and Sue and Johnny as passengers. Reed is surprised that they are able to come, despite their lack of any scientific expertise. But Boris, head of the company, doesn't seem to have a problem with it. After all, this experiment will only benefit.. VON DOOM INDUSTRIES.

Yes, Von Doom has become so succesful that he has a company in America. And Reed is working for this company. Doom does not actually run it, instead leaving his faithful associate Boris to run the show. But on the day of the expedition, Doom is going to visit.

Doom arrives at New York City. The press is everywhere. Doom steps out of the plane. He is wearing a green pin-striped business suit. Along with a darker green cape and hood. And a vicous-looking iron mask. Doom has always been known as being eccentric. Doom is barking orders to his business associates, as he storms into the Baxter Building, home of Von Doom Industries. He enters the test site, where a huge version of his experiment back in college stands. Doom quiets down his associates, and steps up to take a closer look. As he walks, he passes Reed Richards, and catches his eye. He walks past with the most hateful look on his face. Reed explains to Sue how he knew Doom back in his college years.

Doom studies the machine. "Good." He mutters. He walks away. Johnny comments on how spooky he is.

The experiment begins. The four board the ship. The portal opens. The ship nears the Negative Zone. They brace themselves as they pass through the portal. Reed breathes a sign of relief as he discovers they are unharmed. Everyone in the building claps. Except Doom. Who just stares with his arms folded.

Reed, Ben, Sue and Johnny watch in amazement at the world around them. There appears to be no signs of life. Suddenly, a bad thing happens. The ship is blasted with a ray of energy, like the one that scarred Doom. Reed says the shields should protect them. But the ship continues to be blasted with energy. Then it breaks through. The four are bathed in the energy. A light flashes. The ship disappears, and reappears back on earth, on a beach. Reed staggers out of the ship. His friends scattered around the beach. Where are they?

TO BE CONTINUED.

Thanks for posting, Kni-Ton. :up:

I would definitely do a few things differently, though.
Firstly, I'd keep the college era the same as was in the comics, for the most part. Von Doom and Reed Richards were supposed to be roommates, but Von Doom instantly dislikes Richards, despite Reed's trying to be friends right off. On the day they move into their dorm, as Von Doom is about to give Reed a severe and distainful dressing-down, football scholarship student Ben Grimm enters and claims he was also assigned to that dorm room, but the room is only a double. Victor has had enough of this nonsense, grabs his bags and exits the room in a huff, leaving the other two to settle in. Thus begins the friendship between Reed Richards and Ben Grimm, and the tension between they and Victor Von Doom. I think it's important to have Reed and Ben be friends since college.
Also, I'd have the circumstances of Victor's experiment remain faithful to the comics. Just like in your scenario, though, he would be trying to open up another dimension, but whether it's stated or not, he's trying to get into a demon dimension to fetch his damned mother, not the Negative Zone. Even though they don't live together, Reed and Victor run into each other occasionally, and I'd go with Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's plot where Reed gets a glimpse of Victor's equations and points out a flaw. Von Doom won't hear of it and goes ahead with his experiment anyway when Reed isn't there to pester him. There's an explosion in the lab and Victor has his whole face bandaged up when the dean of the university tells him he's expelled (although we don't know what his face looks like, so it could be a complete disfigurement or just a small scar).

Secondly, I'd actually keep the origin catalyst the same as it was in the Foxtastic Four movie: a study of the once-in-a-dozen-lifetimes cosmic storm passing through, from a space station.
The most important differences would be that Doom would be nowhere near the voyage or space station, Reed and Sue would not be estranged, and Ben Grimm would unquestionably be the primary pilot instead of Johnny Storm. Also, while Sue wouldn't be a full-blown scientist with a doctorate, she should probably have some actual function on the mission (Reed's assistant, maybe?), and Johnny could be a shuttlecraft mechanic as well as co-pilot.

I was also actually thinking of possibly having Doom be pulling strings from behind the scenes regarding the space voyage, but I'd have his involvement be completely secret (I was unclear as to whether this was strictly the case in your scenario or not) and there would be no American corporation with the name "Von Doom Industries." He could still own an American corporation, though, and it could be run by a man named Boris (I forget was his last name is, but he'd have to have one in the movie). The Batxter Building would be owned or leased long-term by Reed Richards, not affiliated with Von Doom.


I'd also have Doom be the monarch of Latveria by the time Reed and friends go up in space, like in your scenario. He'd be called "Lord Doom" by most people, but Reed (by the time they're in direct conflict) would call him Doctor Doom, since he has respect for the scientist in Victor, but has no regard for anachronistic tyrants.

The reason I'd have Doom indirectly guide Reed toward taking on this observation mission and supply opportunities and resources for him is because he'd be using the Four as guinea pigs. Doom believes that the cosmic storm's radiation can grant tremendous power to humans exposed to it and wants that power for himself (even though he already has near-unlimited wealth and resources, scientific superiority over most of the world, political power and a superpowerful suit of battle armor which he basically never takes off). I'm thinking the space shuttle heading to the space station is carrying, among other things, special cells that will collect samples of matter and energy from the cosmic radiation storm. The cells will be set up outside the station while the Four are supposedly safe behind the structure's shielding. Von Doom will arrange for the shielding to be compromised during the storm's passing, leaving the Four vulnerable enough to be bombarded by cosmic rays. If they can survive the radiation, they will either recooperate there or come back to Earth; either way, Doom can study their mutations, whether it grants them power or unpleasant deaths. The radiation cells will be brought back to where Doom can retrieve them, and if the Four are empowered without severe negative side affects, Doom would plan to expose himself. That's what I've conjured as a reason for why Doom would want a piece of this action, without him being present. Thoughts?

Would you have Dr. Doom use robots and have him be renowned as a robotics expert? Would you have Reed Richards intentionally create unstable molecules?

:wolverine
 
Abaddon said:
Depends.Did you have an answer for it?

My answer is "yes."

I know that.You couldnt scare me away even if you wanted to.;)

Your answer is incorrect.

:wolverine
 
Herr Logan said:
Thanks for posting, Kni-Ton. :up:

I would definitely do a few things differently, though.
Firstly, I'd keep the college era the same as was in the comics, for the most part. Von Doom and Reed Richards were supposed to be roommates, but Von Doom instantly dislikes Richards, despite Reed's trying to be friends right off. On the day they move into their dorm, as Von Doom is about to give Reed a severe and distainful dressing-down, football scholarship student Ben Grimm enters and claims he was also assigned to that dorm room, but the room is only a double. Victor has had enough of this nonsense, grabs his bags and exits the room in a huff, leaving the other two to settle in. Thus begins the friendship between Reed Richards and Ben Grimm, and the tension between they and Victor Von Doom. I think it's important to have Reed and Ben be friends since college.
My plot is still in the planning stages and I haven't really thought about the college part other than the fact that is where Doom is scarred. Ben should definitely be there, don't know why I missed him.
Also, I'd have the circumstances of Victor's experiment remain faithful to the comics. Just like in your scenario, though, he would be trying to open up another dimension, but whether it's stated or not, he's trying to get into a demon dimension to fetch his damned mother, not the Negative Zone.
I would include the daead mother thing, but I think it would give the audience the impression that will be Doom's plot later in the film. I think it makes more sense as a story if you leave it out. But, if you can come up with a way of mentioning it while keeping the main plot clear, i'd be happy to add it.
Even though they don't live together, Reed and Victor run into each other occasionally, and I'd go with Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's plot where Reed gets a glimpse of Victor's equations and points out a flaw. Von Doom won't hear of it and goes ahead with his experiment anyway when Reed isn't there to pester him. There's an explosion in the lab and Victor has his whole face bandaged up when the dean of the university tells him he's expelled (although we don't know what his face looks like, so it could be a complete disfigurement or just a small scar).
I think the audience would understand Doom's hatred more if his scarring was a result of a situation where Reed can be seen as being at fault. Just my opinion.

Secondly, I'd actually keep the origin catalyst the same as it was in the Foxtastic Four movie: a study of the once-in-a-dozen-lifetimes cosmic storm passing through, from a space station.
The reason why I chose to use the negative zone instead of space, was because space isn't as fantastic anymore. In 1961, we hadn't landed on the moon yet. Space was viewed as being fantastic. Stan Lee obviously would've used something else if space wasn't fantastic back then. In my opinion, the Negative Zone is a much more fantastic scientific feat, plus it fits into the plot nicely. ;)
The most important differences would be that Doom would be nowhere near the voyage or space station, Reed and Sue would not be estranged, and Ben Grimm would unquestionably be the primary pilot instead of Johnny Storm. Also, while Sue wouldn't be a full-blown scientist with a doctorate, she should probably have some actual function on the mission (Reed's assistant, maybe?), and Johnny could be a shuttlecraft mechanic as well as co-pilot.
I had a hard time justifying Sue and Johnny's prescence on the ship. Finally I decided Doom, through Boris, would allow Sue and Johnny to be on the ship because he expected that the mission was a failure, and that if Reed survived but was greatly injured, he would feel guilt by putting loved ones in danger. This is revealed by Doom later in the film.

I was also actually thinking of possibly having Doom be pulling strings from behind the scenes regarding the space voyage, but I'd have his involvement be completely secret (I was unclear as to whether this was strictly the case in your scenario or not)
Yes, that is the case. Doom reveals it later in the movie.
and there would be no American corporation with the name "Von Doom Industries." He could still own an American corporation, though, and it could be run by a man named Boris (I forget was his last name is, but he'd have to have one in the movie).
I threw Von Doom Industries in there as to stur controversy among the fans, making them fear a repeat of Movie Doom. :)
The Batxter Building would be owned or leased long-term by Reed Richards, not affiliated with Von Doom.
I don't like the idea of Reed owning the building before he got the powers. It always seemed better to me that he got it afterwads, and in this movie after Doom is thwarted at the end, stock interests in Von Doom Industries is so low Boris has no choice but to sell the building, and Reed buys it. This is to act as a sort of personal defeat of Doom.


I'd also have Doom be the monarch of Latveria by the time Reed and friends go up in space, like in your scenario. He'd be called "Lord Doom" by most people, but Reed (by the time they're in direct conflict) would call him Doctor Doom, since he has respect for the scientist in Victor, but has no regard for anachronistic tyrants.
It doesn't make sense that a monarch would be referred to as Doctor, now that I think about it.

The reason I'd have Doom indirectly guide Reed toward taking on this observation mission and supply opportunities and resources for him is because he'd be using the Four as guinea pigs. Doom believes that the cosmic storm's radiation can grant tremendous power to humans exposed to it and wants that power for himself
In my scenario, Doom is merely using Reed as a pawn to advance the technology, but Doom being as vain as he is, plans to have Reed killed in the experiment, and then Doom would declare the experiment 'too dangerous' for public experimentation, and complete the task so he can use the Negative Zone as the ultimate war strategy.
(even though he already has near-unlimited wealth and resources, scientific superiority over most of the world, political power and a superpowerful suit of battle armor which he basically never takes off)
Ah, the battle armour. In your vision, he never takes it off. Not so in mine. He leaves the mask on at all times, but usually just wears a green business suit with a dark green cape and hood. For battle, or a means of intimidation, he wears the armour, and he does so in the movie. There is also a scene where he wears the movie costume, again to tease the fans. ;)
I'm thinking the space shuttle heading to the space station is carrying, among other things, special cells that will collect samples of matter and energy from the cosmic radiation storm. The cells will be set up outside the station while the Four are supposedly safe behind the structure's shielding. Von Doom will arrange for the shielding to be compromised during the storm's passing, leaving the Four vulnerable enough to be bombarded by cosmic rays. If they can survive the radiation, they will either recooperate there or come back to Earth; either way, Doom can study their mutations, whether it grants them power or unpleasant deaths. The radiation cells will be brought back to where Doom can retrieve them, and if the Four are empowered without severe negative side affects, Doom would plan to expose himself. That's what I've conjured as a reason for why Doom would want a piece of this action, without him being present. Thoughts?
I like your idea. Mine allows for a large fight scene at the end, but yours is perfectly acceptable. I would like to see it in a movie.

Would you have Dr. Doom use robots and have him be renowned as a robotics expert?
Because not everything goes as planned, and the FF gain superpowers and become national celebrities, Doom sends out a robot to kill three of the four, but to merely injure Reed, so Doom can kill him himself. The robot will be a modified version of a project that Reed and Doom worked on in college (back in college Reed nicknamed the robot H.E.R.B.I.E, to Doom's annoyance)
Would you have Reed Richards intentionally create unstable molecules?
Unstable Molecules will be the very reason Reed has become such a reknowned scientist, among other things.
 
Kni-Ton said:
My plot is still in the planning stages and I haven't really thought about the college part other than the fact that is where Doom is scarred. Ben should definitely be there, don't know why I missed him.
I would include the daead mother thing, but I think it would give the audience the impression that will be Doom's plot later in the film. I think it makes more sense as a story if you leave it out. But, if you can come up with a way of mentioning it while keeping the main plot clear, i'd be happy to add it. I think the audience would understand Doom's hatred more if his scarring was a result of a situation where Reed can be seen as being at fault. Just my opinion.

Ah, I was unclear. I meant to say that Doom's mother issue would be the basis of his experiment, but that wouldn't have to be stated in the movie (the first one, anyway) and could easily remain unexplained. I mainly stated that to say that I wouldn't have Doom looking for the Negative Zone.

The reason why I chose to use the negative zone instead of space, was because space isn't as fantastic anymore. In 1961, we hadn't landed on the moon yet. Space was viewed as being fantastic. Stan Lee obviously would've used something else if space wasn't fantastic back then. In my opinion, the Negative Zone is a much more fantastic scientific feat, plus it fits into the plot nicely. ;)
I had a hard time justifying Sue and Johnny's prescence on the ship. Finally I decided Doom, through Boris, would allow Sue and Johnny to be on the ship because he expected that the mission was a failure, and that if Reed survived but was greatly injured, he would feel guilt by putting loved ones in danger. This is revealed by Doom later in the film.

Yes, that is the case. Doom reveals it later in the movie. I threw Von Doom Industries in there as to stur controversy among the fans, making them fear a repeat of Movie Doom. :)

That's just plain wrong!

I don't like the idea of Reed owning the building before he got the powers. It always seemed better to me that he got it afterwads, and in this movie after Doom is thwarted at the end, stock interests in Von Doom Industries is so low Boris has no choice but to sell the building, and Reed buys it. This is to act as a sort of personal defeat of Doom.

There it is again...

It doesn't make sense that a monarch would be referred to as Doctor, now that I think about it.

In my scenario, Doom is merely using Reed as a pawn to advance the technology, but Doom being as vain as he is, plans to have Reed killed in the experiment, and then Doom would declare the experiment 'too dangerous' for public experimentation, and complete the task so he can use the Negative Zone as the ultimate war strategy. Ah, the battle armour. In your vision, he never takes it off. Not so in mine. He leaves the mask on at all times, but usually just wears a green business suit with a dark green cape and hood. For battle, or a means of intimidation, he wears the armour, and he does so in the movie. There is also a scene where he wears the movie costume, again to tease the fans. ;)

That's going way too far, and it makes me question your motives intensely. As much as I want this place to be a free forum for varying ideas, I think there are certain failures from existing movies that should be banned as far as new ideas are concerned. The Movie!Doom costume was a vicious slap in the face to all real fans. Everything about Movie!Doom was such an insult. This is not the place for "teasing fans" at all. That kind of conformist bully nonsense happens in every other thread on the Hype and is explicitly forbidden here.

All in favor of banning the Movie!Doom costume from any so-called "faithful" adaptation proposals, say "aye"!

I like your idea. Mine allows for a large fight scene at the end, but yours is perfectly acceptable. I would like to see it in a movie.
Mine allows for a big fight scene in the end as well, even though I haven't solidified any plot ideas for the post-origin portion of my movie idea. Anything can lead to a big fight at the end of a superhero movie.

Because not everything goes as planned, and the FF gain superpowers and become national celebrities, Doom sends out a robot to kill three of the four, but to merely injure Reed, so Doom can kill him himself. The robot will be a modified version of a project that Reed and Doom worked on in college (back in college Reed nicknamed the robot H.E.R.B.I.E, to Doom's annoyance)

Unstable Molecules will be the very reason Reed has become such a reknowned scientist, among other things.

Interesting ideas. Still, you're under investigation due to some very suspicious and borderline cruel remarks you made. *glares*

:wolverine
 
Herr Logan said:
Ah, I was unclear. I meant to say that Doom's mother issue would be the basis of his experiment, but that wouldn't have to be stated in the movie (the first one, anyway) and could easily remain unexplained. I mainly stated that to say that I wouldn't have Doom looking for the Negative Zone.
I see.

That's just plain wrong!
But Herr, it is a tactic you admit to use. If I make the fans fear, then the result will be a great relief to them. Didn't you say you have a negative outlook on all comic book movies during production, to make the finished result seem better?

There it is again...
Tee-hee.

That's going way too far, and it makes me question your motives intensely. As much as I want this place to be a free forum for varying ideas, I think there are certain failures from existing movies that should be banned as far as new ideas are concerned. The Movie!Doom costume was a vicious slap in the face to all real fans. Everything about Movie!Doom was such an insult. This is not the place for "teasing fans" at all. That kind of conformist bully nonsense happens in every other thread on the Hype and is explicitly forbidden here.
Woah! Take it easy! You haven't heard the scene yet. This is what Doom says:

Doom: "Bah! Who's idea was it to create thse rags?"

Boris: "It was the wardrobe department of the media sir, it is supposed to make you seem more mysterious. They seem to really love your mask."

Doom: My mask is so no man can see my weakness. I have no wish to wear something that is meant to build upon that weakness. As soon as I aquire my armour, the garment must be burned."

Boris: "Yes, sir."

All in favor of banning the Movie!Doom costume from any so-called "faithful" adaptation proposals, say "aye"!


NAY.
:mad: Well, at least for what I am doing..


Mine allows for a big fight scene in the end as well, even though I haven't solidified any plot ideas for the post-origin portion of my movie idea. Anything can lead to a big fight at the end of a superhero movie.
Good point.



Interesting ideas. Still, you're under investigation due to some very suspicious and borderline cruel remarks you made. *glares*

:wolverine
*glares back*

*eyes bleed*
 
Kni-Ton said:
I see.

But Herr, it is a tactic you admit to use. If I make the fans fear, then the result will be a great relief to them. Didn't you say you have a negative outlook on all comic book movies during production, to make the finished result seem better?

That's not how it works! The filmmakers shouldn't be encouraging us to be pessimists. That's something we do for ourselves. The filmmakers should make a reasonable promise of quality and then deliver. It's one thing to make a passing reference to a failure in a previous adaptation (and I'm not talking about that bull$hit in 'X-Men' about the yellow spandex, because that's not an adaptation failure, that's how it was originally written), but to actually have such a costume in a faithful adaptation would be just tasteless. Why waste time with a failure when you can focus on the real deal?

Tee-hee.

Woah! Take it easy! You haven't heard the scene yet. This is what Doom says:

Doom: "Bah! Who's idea was it to create thse rags?"

Boris: "It was the wardrobe department of the media sir, it is supposed to make you seem more mysterious. They seem to really love your mask."

Doom: My mask is so no man can see my weakness. I have no wish to wear something that is meant to build upon that weakness. As soon as I aquire my armour, the garment must be burned."

Boris: "Yes, sir."

NAY. :mad: Well, at least for what I am doing..

Again, that's a waste of time. The movie that was made of the Fantastic Four isn't worth a mention in a faithful new one. Yes, there was some potential there and some of it was done well, but the totality of the circumstances is that it's half-assed, typical Hollywood, typical Marvel Films bastardization. If you have the knowledge and love of the characters to give Dr. Doom his proper attire, there's no reason to insult other fans by showing us an idiotic "trenchcoat" version of Doom's robe.



:wolverine
 
Abaddon said:
Ah yes,more "investigations".:rolleyes:

Did you tell Daisy to cut off our trash-talking in your thread just so you could get the last word? :doom:

Anyway, sorry if I sidetracked your discussion there. :O

:wolverine
 
Kni-Ton,

I didn't mean to lash out like that. Thinking about it now, I do applaud your intended use of the "reverse bait and switch" as a way to increase pleasure with viewing, although I don't agree with the specific proposal. Certain points in your explanation sounded to me like deliberately anti-fan sentiment and I got defensive.

You definitely have interesting ideas (including the one about H.E.R.B.I.E. as a school project for Reed), and if you have further thoughts you'd like to express, you are welcome to post them. I will try my damnedest to keep my critical bastard nature under control.

Actually, here's an idea: Cullen, it's your job to post a comment that is... characteristic of yourself... immediately after Kni-ton posts anything. That'll allow me to vent my frustrations in a harmless (in all ways that matter) fashion without discouraging our new member. :)

:wolverine
 
Herr Logan said:
Did you tell Daisy to cut off our trash-talking in your thread just so you could get the last word? :doom:

You really think I'd be that dastardly?:o

Anyway, sorry if I sidetracked your discussion there. :O

:wolverine


S'ok.I needed to brush up on my vocabulary.:O





Ps-Can you repost the stuff you had on your version of X-men?
 
Abaddon said:
You really think I'd be that dastardly?:o

S'ok.I needed to brush up on my vocabulary.:O

Ps-Can you repost the stuff you had on your version of X-men?

You mean the stuff for my "1st movie, 1st generation" idea or my original "1st movie, 2nd generation idea"?

I ask because it'll take some searching if it's the former, but I can provide either way, or both.

:wolverine
 
I dont mean the recent one.I mean the one you posted in the first few pages.
 

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