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Season 6, Episode 10 "The Winds of Winter" Discussion Thread - Part 1

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Dany did get the masters ships, they say that in episode 9...

and they show so little of the sigils it had to be slowed down and screen capped for proof... that to me is just lazy ******** and not nitpicking.
 
"So apparently HBO had to confirm Jon's parents because some people just couldn't get it. A lot of people either thought the father was the Mad King or that the baby wasn't Jon Snow. I even saw a lot of people that thought the father was Robert Baratheon."

I know who one of them was..............
 
We should just start making up bullsh** GoT rumors to troll the internet. It seems like a new implausible theory crops up everyday... let's make up some of our own that couldn't possibly be true. Here, I'll go first.

BRAN IS REALLY JON'S FATHER

Bran will eventually come to realize that not only can he travel back in time and subtly interact with people, he can physically transport his consciousness into the body of other people and take them over with his warging abilities. Next season, we'll see Bran transport himself back in time and take over the body of Rhaegar Targaryen in an attempt to stop Robert's Rebellion from ever happening. But while controlling Rheagar, he falls in love with Lyanna, because INCEST, and runs away with her, starting the war anyway. He f***s Lyanna and the result is Jon Snow.
 
Bran's a troublemaker anyway. Because of him the 3 eyed raven is dead, the Children of the Forest are extinct, his direwolf and Jojen are dead and on top of that he forces Hoder to sacrifice himself lol
 
We should just start making up bullsh** GoT rumors to troll the internet. It seems like a new implausible theory crops up everyday... let's make up some of our own that couldn't possibly be true. Here, I'll go first.

BRAN IS REALLY JON'S FATHER

Bran will eventually come to realize that not only can he travel back in time and subtly interact with people, he can physically transport his consciousness into the body of other people and take them over with his warging abilities. Next season, we'll see Bran transport himself back in time and take over the body of Rhaegar Targaryen in an attempt to stop Robert's Rebellion from ever happening. But while controlling Rheagar, he falls in love with Lyanna, because INCEST, and runs away with her, starting the war anyway. He f***s Lyanna and the result is Jon Snow.

Sorry, until that is confirmed by a chart, it didn't happen. I think he's actually his own father and it will be revealed in the Season 7 episode "Chinatown".

Game of Groans??
 
Not making the Rhaegar link I guess I'd say fair enough, but not getting that Jon is the baby is just being dumb.

Baby had brown eyes. Jon has brown eyes.

Not to mention the transition accompanied by epic musical cue from Baby to Jon.
 
I understand the Rhegar thing because for a casual watcher nobody knows who the hell Rhegar Is. Dude Is barely mentioned.
 
It's difficult to picture how a casual viewer who has never rewatched any episodes or talked about it on forums would see all this. They may barely remember many of the things from the first couple of seasons (season 1 is already 6 years ago) especially talk of any offscreen characters that are briefly mentioned (who could easily have been seen as background rather than crucial at the time) when you already have more characters than you can keep track of onscreen. If you asked me something equivalent on a different TV show that I wasn't as into I probably would have missed it too. I loved Breaking Bad and saw the whole thing only last year but I can barely remember anything outside of the main events that happened to the core characters, and there are not exactly a tonne of characters to keep track of.
 
The Rhaegar reveal is probably being saved for a future episode. Right now it's enough the the non-book reading audience knows Jon is the son of Lyanna.
 
It's actually made worse by the fact that telling a non book reader that Rhaegar is Daenerys' older brother just leads to them saying "OMG that guy?? He sucks!" and then you have to explain she had another older brother who has never been on the show. Which then leads to a recap of Robert's rebellion.
 
It's difficult to picture how a casual viewer who has never rewatched any episodes or talked about it on forums would see all this. They may barely remember many of the things from the first couple of seasons (season 1 is already 6 years ago) especially talk of any offscreen characters that are briefly mentioned (who could easily have been seen as background rather than crucial at the time) when you already have more characters than you can keep track of onscreen. If you asked me something equivalent on a different TV show that I wasn't as into I probably would have missed it too. I loved Breaking Bad and saw the whole thing only last year but I can barely remember anything outside of the main events that happened to the core characters, and there are not exactly a tonne of characters to keep track of.

Same I had to rewatch stuff to remember things from mostly the first three seasons.
 
Bran's a troublemaker anyway. Because of him the 3 eyed raven is dead, the Children of the Forest are extinct, his direwolf and Jojen are dead and on top of that he forces Hoder to sacrifice himself lol

While you're at it, pin Rickon, Osha and Shaggydog's deaths on him too. One of the last things he said to Rickon back in season three was "The Umbers are our bannermen. They'll protect you."

Way to go, Bran. :whatever:
 
It's difficult to picture how a casual viewer who has never rewatched any episodes or talked about it on forums would see all this. They may barely remember many of the things from the first couple of seasons (season 1 is already 6 years ago) especially talk of any offscreen characters that are briefly mentioned (who could easily have been seen as background rather than crucial at the time) when you already have more characters than you can keep track of onscreen. If you asked me something equivalent on a different TV show that I wasn't as into I probably would have missed it too. I loved Breaking Bad and saw the whole thing only last year but I can barely remember anything outside of the main events that happened to the core characters, and there are not exactly a tonne of characters to keep track of.

Season 1 aired April 2011 - June 2011. It's only 5 years ago.

On another note, did I miss it or did Bran not say anything about Hodor's death? He is the reason Hodor became Hodor and he warged Hodor so he would hold the door. If Bran didn't even acknowledge his death or show some remorse or gratitude that makes him seem like a dick.

Not to mention unless I'm mistaken he seemed to not give a tinker's damn that his direwolf died.

Show Bran is a heartless bastard.:argh:
 
"It's not specifically said Rhaegar is the dad!"

"it's heavily hinted at throughout the show..."

"but they never SAY it!"

Same person once told someone else the show was "too smart for them"
 
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So I guess Meereen is now under secular (Daario) and religious (Kinvara) rule?
 
I wonder if Daario will ever show up again.
 
I got a feeling he and Jorah will show up somewhere next season.
 
Jorah and his army of stone men
 
He saves Westeros from the white walkers so everyone can die to greyscale?
 
Hail Tommen, First of His Name and King of the Rotters
 
Bran's a troublemaker anyway. Because of him the 3 eyed raven is dead, the Children of the Forest are extinct, his direwolf and Jojen are dead and on top of that he forces Hoder to sacrifice himself lol

he has the knight kings mark wait till Bran keeps traveling lol
 

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