The Dark Knight Rises Should There Be A ‘Joker’ Spin-Off Film? Brett Ratner Thinks So

I'm surprised he doesn't get ChrisTucker for Bishop and Jackie Chan as Sunfire.
 
wait... what... who is brett ratner?

and why is he saying anything about this?

whis whole idea sounds about as good as making an I love New York 3 hosted by Pee Wee Herman featuring Polly Shore as a cyborg built by Apple.
 
When Ratner makes a good movie.........then well talk. But there are better chances of Jesse Ventura directing the next movie. And I think hed do a much better job. Thats a movie I want to see.

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****ing Ratner. Are you outside of your damn mind?! If you so much as lay a finger on the Batman franchise, you know that just about every fanboy on the face of the earth will put time and money into getting your head on a stick.
 
Brett Ratner should be dragged over hot coals :o
 
Let's make a Lau spinoff-prequel!!

"I will be good with cal-coo-lation" **Motions to thug with phone in hand**
 
I actually think a Joker solo movie could be interesting.

I think it could be cool if they did one dealing with his origin, but do it in a trippy Fight Club style of filming. I'd have it start with him as a child, but throughout the movie have things happen that contradict what happens to him later in life. At one point in the movie we see his father scarring him as a boy, later in the movie we see him older with no scars, being a struggling comic with a wife, and scarring himself. Then we see him working for the mob, and getting a chelsea grin after a botched operation.

I'd also incorporate the kind of subliminal messaging they do in Fight Club, except have flashes of the Joker, or random flashes or horrible images.

There would be a general story that the movie follows, but as I said, events here and there would contradict each other. At the end of the movie, I'd have it flash to a scene of the Joker holding a knife to someone (any random person) and end it with him saying "...and that's how I got these scars..."

The whole point being that the movie is basically all being played out in the Joker's head, which is why it would have a frantic, odd filming style to it. With quick cuts and the flashes of images that seem unconnected to the story, and at the same time having different events in the story contradict themselves.

Basically, the movie would offer multiple explanations to how he becomes the Joker. It would follow a semblance of linear story-telling (starting with him as a boy and ending with him as an adult) but at different points in the film he's dipicted as experiencing different things and acting in completely different ways.

For example; one scene of him as a child would show him as an innocent boy being abused by his father, later, we see him acting like a horrible little sociopath, lighting a cat on fire just to amuse himself.

At the end of the movie, the audience wouldn't have a clear answer of what made the Joker how he is, but only be provided with possible explanations. It would be carrying on the theme of TKJ basically, and providing us with an insight of how the Joker remembers his past.


....but to make it clear, NONE of this would involve Brett Ratner.
 
Star Wars is a dead franchise, quality-wise.
 
Infinity9999x said:
I actually think a Joker solo movie could be interesting.

I think it could be cool if they did one dealing with his origin, but do it in a trippy Fight Club style of filming. I'd have it start with him as a child, but throughout the movie have things happen that contradict what happens to him later in life. At one point in the movie we see his father scarring him as a boy, later in the movie we see him older with no scars, being a struggling comic with a wife, and scarring himself. Then we see him working for the mob, and getting a chelsea grin after a botched operation.

I'd also incorporate the kind of subliminal messaging they do in Fight Club, except have flashes of the Joker, or random flashes or horrible images.

There would be a general story that the movie follows, but as I said, events here and there would contradict each other. At the end of the movie, I'd have it flash to a scene of the Joker holding a knife to someone (any random person) and end it with him saying "...and that's how I got these scars..."

The whole point being that the movie is basically all being played out in the Joker's head, which is why it would have a frantic, odd filming style to it. With quick cuts and the flashes of images that seem unconnected to the story, and at the same time having different events in the story contradict themselves.

Basically, the movie would offer multiple explanations to how he becomes the Joker. It would follow a semblance of linear story-telling (starting with him as a boy and ending with him as an adult) but at different points in the film he's dipicted as experiencing different things and acting in completely different ways.

For example; one scene of him as a child would show him as an innocent boy being abused by his father, later, we see him acting like a horrible little sociopath, lighting a cat on fire just to amuse himself.

At the end of the movie, the audience wouldn't have a clear answer of what made the Joker how he is, but only be provided with possible explanations. It would be carrying on the theme of TKJ basically, and providing us with an insight of how the Joker remembers his past.


....but to make it clear, NONE of this would involve Brett Ratner.
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Now that, in the hands of the right director would be a wonderful idea! I'm strongly anti-origin because I think it makes the character more human, which ruins his point as an absolute, which I believe is the best interpretation. One possible idea would be to have multiple actors playing the Joker, sort of him seeing himself how he wants to, a I'm Not There Approach, almost. The ending shot which you're talking about, could be either scraped footage of Heath, or maybe even just the scene with Gambol, ending with the Joker looking up at the camera right after he says "So... why so serious?"
 
The Spider-Bat said:
Now that, in the hands of the right director would be a wonderful idea! I'm strongly anti-origin because I think it makes the character more human, which ruins his point as an absolute, which I believe is the best interpretation. One possible idea would be to have multiple actors playing the Joker, sort of him seeing himself how he wants to, a I'm Not There Approach, almost. The ending shot which you're talking about, could be either scraped footage of Heath, or maybe even just the scene with Gambol, ending with the Joker looking up at the camera right after he says "So... why so serious?"
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Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking. Having multiple actors play him would be perfect as well, and it ties in perfectly to the base idea that the entire movie is being seen through the Joker's mind. Every time he's sees himself as he wants to be seen in that situation, hence why he appears slightly different each time we see him in his memories.
 
CaptainClown said:
agree.

A spin-off movie would be like Joker in TDKR before Batman came back. Just sitting in his cell staring off into space.
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you actually think the Joker in TDK wasn't commiting crimes before Batman showed up? He was obviously a psychopathic career criminal.

Batman just fascinated him and gave him delusions of grandeur.

The whole natural born killers idea with him/harley could work as a great mature animated film i think. I would defenitely frickin watch it (assuming Ratner didn't make it).

The ending could be Joker murdering Harley just to prove to Batman how special he/batman's relationship is.
 
LOUD_SILENT_MAN said:
Star Wars is a dead franchise, quality-wise.
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I disagree.

Its potential is limitless in various media from cartoons, movies, novels, video-games and comics.

The movies could be better but even the worst movies have good quality IMO.
 
Infinity9999x said:
I actually think a Joker solo movie could be interesting.

I think it could be cool if they did one dealing with his origin, but do it in a trippy Fight Club style of filming. I'd have it start with him as a child, but throughout the movie have things happen that contradict what happens to him later in life. At one point in the movie we see his father scarring him as a boy, later in the movie we see him older with no scars, being a struggling comic with a wife, and scarring himself. Then we see him working for the mob, and getting a chelsea grin after a botched operation.

I'd also incorporate the kind of subliminal messaging they do in Fight Club, except have flashes of the Joker, or random flashes or horrible images.

There would be a general story that the movie follows, but as I said, events here and there would contradict each other. At the end of the movie, I'd have it flash to a scene of the Joker holding a knife to someone (any random person) and end it with him saying "...and that's how I got these scars..."

The whole point being that the movie is basically all being played out in the Joker's head, which is why it would have a frantic, odd filming style to it. With quick cuts and the flashes of images that seem unconnected to the story, and at the same time having different events in the story contradict themselves.

Basically, the movie would offer multiple explanations to how he becomes the Joker. It would follow a semblance of linear story-telling (starting with him as a boy and ending with him as an adult) but at different points in the film he's dipicted as experiencing different things and acting in completely different ways.

For example; one scene of him as a child would show him as an innocent boy being abused by his father, later, we see him acting like a horrible little sociopath, lighting a cat on fire just to amuse himself.

At the end of the movie, the audience wouldn't have a clear answer of what made the Joker how he is, but only be provided with possible explanations. It would be carrying on the theme of TKJ basically, and providing us with an insight of how the Joker remembers his past.


....but to make it clear, NONE of this would involve Brett Ratner.
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I'd like to Depp as Joker and Tony Scott or David Fincher as the director of this.
 
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