Far From Home Spider-Man: Far From Home General Discussion and Speculation - Part 2

[Schlosser85]

Deadline claims Jon Watts is not officially signed on for a third movie, and it's unclear at this point whether he'll stay on. Deadline also claims Tom Holland is contracted for one more movie, but Sony intends to make at least two more with Holland.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[MahvelBaby!]

If this was Alan hornes doing any chance Iger disagrees and takes the deal?

According to Campea Sony offered 70/30 and they still declined. That's insane to me.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Deadline claims Jon Watts is not officially signed on for a third movie, and it's unclear at this point whether he'll stay on. Deadline also claims Tom Holland is contracted for one more movie, but Sony intends to make at least two more with Holland.

Good luck with that. Seems like Holland is ready to bounce.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

Just wow. I remember February 2015 when the deal was made public. It was a joke if you were to have said "Wow, they finally did it. Imagine if they rebooted AGAIN"

And now that's pretty much the reality. Not rebooting but yanked him out of the glory. Absolutely speechless.

 

[Schlosser85]

Good luck with that. Seems like Holland is ready to bounce.

I don’t think we have anything to indicate that. And if Holland is under contract for a third movie, I don’t even know if he can bounce.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

It will technically be a soft reboot even if it is with Holland

 

[Comicbookguy339]

I don’t think we have anything to indicate that. And if Holland is under contract for a third movie, I don’t even know if he can bounce.

I think he just unfollowed both Sony and @spidermanmovie on instagram. And yeah, Sony could strong-arm him into doing a third one but as a studio that's probably not the relationship you want to have with your franchise's lead actor.

 

[Spider-Fan]

If they really did offer a 70-30 split, then yeah it is insane for Disney to turn that down and this is completely their fault then. That is a fairly reasonable offer. Once again that is assuming that is true

 

[Schlosser85]

I think he just unfollowed both Sony and @spidermanmovie on instagram. And yeah, Sony could strong-arm him into doing a third one but as a studio that's probably not the relationship you want to have with your franchise's lead actor.

Did he unfollow them, or was he never following them in the first place? Because we've seen this before, someone online says so and so just unfollowed so and so, and then later we find it wasn't even someone they were following.

 

[shinlyle]

Just wow. I remember February 2015 when the deal was made public. It was a joke if you were to have said "Wow, they finally did it. Imagine if they rebooted AGAIN"

And now that's pretty much the reality. Not rebooting but yanked him out of the glory. Absolutely speechless.

Sony, when you absolutely, positively have to anger every fanboy in the room....except no substitutes.

 

[dominick1216]

To my understanding Sony can use the SM-related characters (Peter, Ned, May, etc.) but can't use Michelle right? Isn't she technically a Marvel/Disney character?

 

[Jordanstine]

Remember recent news about Sony wanting to have Venom as part of the MCU?

Sony Reportedly Wants Venom In The MCU, But Marvel Really Doesn't

Sounds like this whole thing probably stemmed from that.

Sony negotiating with Marvel to add Venom and probably others from their Spider-verse into the MCU.

Disney agreed to it (Deadline reported that Disney would’ve add Sony’s other characters) but only if they will get more than the 5% share of the credit since Feige will now be extra busy producing multiple Sony tent poles, hence this is likely where Disney started asking for the 50/50 split.

Looked like Sony kind of hoped Disney would let Feige do all that work still under the same 5% credit and everything broke down.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

All the numbers we're getting are coming from Sony, which means they're going to be framed in their favor. Sony will try to make the situation really cut and dried but it likely is far more nuanced than they're letting on. Considering we haven't heard from Disney and all the talk is from Sony, we can glean heavily that Sony is the one forcing the negotiations public to gain the upperhand. Problem for them is that most people actually view Disney, Feige and MCU Spider-Man favorably and severely distrust anything Sony does due to their past screwups (MIB, Ghostbusters, etc.)

 

[Pennywise]

Just wow. I remember February 2015 when the deal was made public. It was a joke if you were to have said "Wow, they finally did it. Imagine if they rebooted AGAIN"

And now that's pretty much the reality. Not rebooting but yanked him out of the glory. Absolutely speechless.

That’s the part that scares me!!!

 

[Boom]

In the grand scheme of things, I don't mind it. I prefer Spidey on his own anyway, and at least we got to see him take part in the first big Avengers arc.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Sony is a pit of creative despair and I consider them to be the armpit of Major film studios, but it is pretty messed up just how good Disney is for using that to their advantage.

Like who is the online community that follows this kind of stuff gonna believe pulled the plug on this deal? The studio that can do no wrong and gave us Infinity War and Endgame, or the one that is responsible for garbage like the emoji movie and can’t make a good live action spider-man movie to save their lives because hack executives can’t stay out of the editing room?

The entire situation is messed up but I do hope the two sides can make something work, because I cannot fathom Avi Arad and the rest of that wretched “brain trust” back to calling the shots for live action spider-man after the good work marvel studios has given us so far.

 

[samsnee]

Someone on another board brought up a very good point. Disney/Marvel has so many properties that they can wait a few years between doing sequels for each hero. So they can take their time on Black Panther 2 or Captain Marvel 2. Sony's crown jewel is Spider-man, so the are going to demand a new movie every 2-3 years since they get ZERO cut when Spider-man is in a team-up movie. So that is demanding for Marvel to have to creatively work around that as it does also dictate what big event movies can be released around the Spider-man movies. So I can see why Disney wanted more.

I think the best solution would be to give Disney a bigger financial stake in the Sony movies, but also give Sony a small cut if Spider-man is in a team-up movie.

 

[Avenging Angel]

I'm in the minority but I love this news.

 

[Everett Ross]

'Spider-Man' Standoff: Why Sony Thinks It Doesn't Need "Kevin's Playbook" Anymore

Disney had been seeking a co-financing arrangement on upcoming movies, looking for at least a 30 percent stake. Sony, which counts Spider-Man as one of its only reliable moneymaking franchises, said no. Before both sides walked away, talks had gone to the top level, with Rothman and CEO Tony Vinciquerra on Sony’s side and Disney Studios' co-chairmen Alan Horn and Alan Bergman involved.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

I bet you even if Disney comes down Tom Rothman will do whatever it takes to wreck this.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

After experiencing it and liking it, I'm not sure I want to live in a world where Anthony Mackie and Sebastian Stan can no longer make fun of Tom Holland.

 

[Everett Ross]

The figure reinforced both sides’ thinking. Sony executives believed they didn’t need Disney anymore

Disney did not get a producing fee nor did Feige for the initial deal, say multiple insiders.

“Tom is thinking ‘Okay, we’ve learned everything we need to from Kevin’s playbook. We did Venom on our own and we did Spider-Verse,' comments a Sony insider.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

Lol this article is Disney firing back

 

[MahvelBaby!]

Does the no producing fee mean they basically worked for free? If so I'm convinced Feige is truly unique in the industry he truly freaking cares