Far From Home Spider-Man: Far From Home General Discussion and Speculation - Part 2

[Spider-Fan]

Disney buying Sony on top of having already bought Fox, would be catastrophic for the industry as a whole. I was okay with the deal to buy Fox because Fox were sellers anyway and I don't think that that particular transaction put Disney too far over the top. You add another major studio and now the already wide margin between Disney and everybody else is just way too wide. I get people want Spider-Man back in the MCU. That would be too high of a price

 

[ZenTheAvenger]

Had they not been able to sell their character, you wouldn't even have Marvel today.

Yes and that's fair enough but Marvel have worked their asses off to become the force they are today and they have completely saved Sony's ass, rejuvenating Spider-Man and making his live action films successful once again. Not only that they've made him a central point to the MCU, helping Sony even more.

If Sony won't agree a deal then they are perfectly entitled to go in and offer massive money to buy back their own character.

 

[ZenTheAvenger]

Disney should go over Sony Pictures straight to the top in Japan and cut a deal with them directly, either to keep Spidey in the MCU or to buy the character outright.

Sony Japan's main focus is music and their gaming division etc. Sony Pictures in comparison is a complete mess.

If Disney offer enough money, Sony Japan will sell them back Spidey in my opinion or at the very least override Sony Pictures and cut a deal to keep him in the MCU.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Disney should go over Sony Pictures straight to the top in Japan and cut a deal with them directly, either to keep Spidey in the MCU or to buy the character outright.

Sony Japan's main focus is music and their gaming division etc. Sony Pictures in comparison is a complete mess.

If Disney offer enough money, Sony Japan will sell them back Spidey in my opinion or at the very least override Sony Pictures and cut a deal to keep him in the MCU.

We don't know what Sony Japan's stance is on this. It is very possible that Sony Japan may very well agree that Disney was asking for too much. I doubt that with a major situation like this they were not at least consulted about what's going on. Now if they were never consulted at all at any point in the process, then yeah that might be something worth trying to do. But the fact is we don't know what's going on behind the scenes with the negotiations. We don't really know what Sony offered Disney in response to Disney's 50% offer, and vice versa. There just is not enough information for us to know basically anything.

 

[dennis_3107]

Disney should go over Sony Pictures straight to the top in Japan and cut a deal with them directly, either to keep Spidey in the MCU or to buy the character outright.

Sony Japan's main focus is music and their gaming division etc. Sony Pictures in comparison is a complete mess.

If Disney offer enough money, Sony Japan will sell them back Spidey in my opinion or at the very least override Sony Pictures and cut a deal to keep him in the MCU.

Again wow, can I even take this seriously?

If it was that easy, Marvel should have gone to Sony like before they decided to "help" rejuvenating Spider-man. It would have been a lot cheaper and easier, if it had been as easy to make a deal as you said.

And now Spider-man got back his footings, how much are you gonna have to offer to get just one character.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Again wow, can I even take this seriously?

If it was that easy, Marvel should have gone to Sony like before they decided to "help" rejuvenating Spider-man. It would have been a lot cheaper and easier, if it had been as easy to make a deal as you said.

And now Spider-man got back his footings, how much are you gonna have to offer to get just one character.

I'm going to be fair on the just one character point. The Spider-Man license includes far more than just one character. It includes Peter Parker himself, all other versions of Spider-Man, his entire selection of villains of which is one of the best in all of comic books, on top of characters like Norman Osborn that could be easily be used in future MCU movies as a primary bad guy. So the license holds more value than just Spiderman himself potentially for Marvel Studios. That being said, Sony realizes that as well and that is why they likely will not sell it to Disney

 

[ZenTheAvenger]

Again wow, can I even take this seriously?

If it was that easy, Marvel should have gone to Sony like before they decided to "help" rejuvenating Spider-man. It would have been a lot cheaper and easier, if it had been as easy to make a deal as you said.

And now Spider-man got back his footings, how much are you gonna have to offer to get just one character.

It's not just one character, it's all of the characters associated with Spider-Man including villains etc.

Disney are even more powerful now than a few years ago so I hope one day they can buy the rights to Spidey back at least. Sony Pictures are a mess too so hopefully they struggle in the near future and end up selling him back.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

Plot twist!

Seems Tom Holland does indeed have the option to walk out of a 3rd film.

This has a possibility to get ugly

Fun!

 

[Iceman]

Yeah, all the extras are why F4 rights are so valuable.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Plot twist!

Seems Tom Holland does indeed have the option to walk out of a 3rd film.

This has a possibility to get ugly

Fun!

Only articles that have mentioned that the third film is an option, but just that it is an option. I've not seen anything that says it's an actor option or a studio option. If it is indeed an actor option, then sure Tom Holland can leave over this if that's the case. However I don't foresee that happening. It's easy for us to say opt out of the movie when it is not our money or career that we're looking at. If Tom were to do something like that, yeah he might be all right with Disney, but other studios may opt not to work with him because of that if he does it. Also other projects he's working with that Sony would be at risk most certainly. I still see at the end of the day Tom Holland getting some type of pay raise from Sony and working on another movie or two at the very least.

Once again this all assumes that they don't go back to the bargaining table and come up to some type of deal to keep him in the MCU.

 

[shinlyle]

Plot twist!

Seems Tom Holland does indeed have the option to walk out of a 3rd film.

This has a possibility to get ugly

Fun!

Holland walks, and well,

 

[Zarex]

Only articles that have mentioned that the third film is an option, but just that it is an option. I've not seen anything that says it's an actor option or a studio option. If it is indeed an actor option, then sure Tom Holland can leave over this if that's the case. However I don't foresee that happening. It's easy for us to say opt out of the movie when it is not our money or career that we're looking at. If Tom were to do something like that, yeah he might be all right with Disney, but other studios may opt not to work with him because of that if he does it. Also other projects he's working with that Sony would be at risk most certainly. I still see at the end of the day Tom Holland getting some type of pay raise from Sony and working on another movie or two at the very least.

Once again this all assumes that they don't go back to the bargaining table and come up to some type of deal to keep him in the MCU.

To suggest that other studios would choose not to work with Tom because he exercised an option written into his contract seems silly. He's done a terrific job playing Peter and, outside of his having loose lips regarding spoilers, Holland been wonderful as the face of the franchise. If an opt out in his contract exists and he chooses to exercise it I have no doubt he will be scooped up immediately.

 

[Schlosser85]

Holland unfollowing Sony on Instagram (yes he did unfollow them, he used to like and comment on all their Spider-Man related IG posts) would seem to suggest he’s not happy, but I doubt he walks out the door.

As Spider-Fan said, he’d be walking out on by far the biggest thing he has going on right now as well as endangering his role in Uncharted to do what? Show loyalty to Marvel/Disney? He doesn’t have any other project or character with them.

 

[Spider-Fan]

To suggest that other studios would choose not to work with Tom because he exercised an option written into his contract seems silly. He's done a terrific job playing Peter and, outside of his having loose lips regarding spoilers, Holland been wonderful as the face of the franchise. If an opt out in his contract exists and he chooses to exercise it I have no doubt he will be scooped up immediately.

He has done a wonderful job, but Hollywood is also a very very very back stabby place. If you make someone angry, they will try to sabotage your career. that's just the nature of the business.

 

[Schlosser85]

He has done a wonderful job, but Hollywood is also a very very very back stabby place. If you make someone angry, they will try to sabotage your career. that's just the nature of the business.

And Holland would be very vulnerable. He’s young and not well established outside of Spider-Man.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I will say this though, if Tom Holland were to leave and a new Spider-Man were to be introduced for the spider-verse and we truly were to never get another Holland appearance, then my interest in future Spider-Man movies as a whole would decline heavily. I do think Sony would be fools to do that. At this point I really think we have two choices for Sony and those two choices are they either have to secure Tom Holland for future movies if they are indeed going to be doing their own thing, or they have to somehow get back on the table and actually make this deal happen. At the end of the day, I don't really care if Disney or Sony are primarily at fault for what's happening right now, all I care about is both of them getting their crap together and making this work for the fans

 

[MahvelBaby!]

They gotta make this work. Both sides

 

[Zarex]

Even if the two sides can't reach a deal right now, I will hold out hope that Holland could back into the MCU as adult Peter in a decade or so. Married with a young child, working as a high school science teacher and ready to serve as mentor to the newbies.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

Maybe Disney can sweeten the deal with a bit of that merchandise money contingent on thr fact that he remains in the MCU

 

[MadVillainy]

Does Tom Holland even run his own IG?

 

[Spider-Fan]

Maybe Disney can sweeten the deal with a bit of that merchandise money contingent on thr fact that he remains in the MCU

Hell will freeze over before that ever happens. Disney ain't letting anyone touch the merch.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

It seems like he does but who knows

 

[MadVillainy]

Hell will freeze over before that ever happens. Disney ain't letting anyone touch the merch.

Indeed. The merch is where most of the Spider-Man money is year after year

 

[Boom]

I'm of the mind that Sony will at least finish out the Holland trilogy, but this really does make for an interesting creative challenge.

They can't reference Tony Stark.
They can't reference the Avengers.
They can't reference Happy.
They can't reference past events or relationships that tie in with the MCU.
They may have to ditch the AI system in Peter's suit (which isn't a bad thing, mind you).

All of this is certainly doable, but considering how heavily they leaned into the Stark/Avengers connections in the first two films, I don't see any scenario where those omissions in the third film wouldn't be consciously felt. Still, I'd say it's preferable to doing a third reboot within the last decade. That would be a very hard sell.

 

[Schlosser85]

Does Tom Holland even run his own IG?

He posts videos on his Instagram story all the time where he’s just lounging on the couch or in bed, so I’m gonna say yes.