Far From Home Spider-Man: Far From Home General Discussion and Speculation - Part 2

[Scarecrow_King]

Maybe Sony will actually mention Uncle Ben in their Spider-Man movies, unlike Disney.

 

[Galactus123]

This is going to be a matter of opinion to pretty much every poster on here, but I would prefer a continuation of the current series with just no references outside of Spider-Man related things. I don't want to see a full hard reboot of Spider-Man yet again in such a short period of time

You are right. Continuing without MCU references could be a good thing. My main issue with these movies has been that they don't feel like proper Spider-Man movies. Too many MCU references. I want to see Tom Hardy's Venom in a Spider-Man movie.

Edit: I saw this on other forum:

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[Gothamsknight]

The idea that we actually might hear a mention of uncle ben and not be tied down with others heroes is really refreshing. I gotta agree that the past 2 Spidey films didn't feel like Spidey films to me.

 

[Dark Raven]

This is going to be a matter of opinion to pretty much every poster on here, but I would prefer a continuation of the current series with just no references outside of Spider-Man related things. I don't want to see a full hard reboot of Spider-Man yet again in such a short period of time

Yeah. I think a continuation sans mcu references would likely be the best option for the brand in that scenario. It would take the least amount of reworking than a full reboot and they could potentially re-insert him in the mcu if it came up again.

The difficulty is that the world that Spidey lives in is a post-snap world. Everyone has been affected by that. Do they never address that again?

If they featured Vulture again, is his motivation different now? He was driven by feeling hard done by Stark. Same with Mysterio, if he's even alive.

Also, who is financing Spider-Man's suit now? How does he get all the tech? Will he have to be a very different Spider-Man to the previous MCU films?

 

[Spider-Fan]

The difficulty is that the world that Spidey lives in is a post-snap world. Everyone has been affected by that. Do they never address that again?

If they featured Vulture again, is his motivation different now? He was driven by feeling hard done by Stark. Same with Mysterio, if he's even alive.

Also, who is financing Spider-Man's suit now? How does he get all the tech? Will he have to be a very different Spider-Man to the previous MCU films?

Many of these things would just be ignored. They're just never mention the snap again or any of that stuff. Also I would say we've had an entire movie that dealt with that, so even if it were done by then they would have to decrease the number of mentions of it anyway.

 

[Dark Raven]

How does Peter suddenly go from feeling remorse for Tony Stark's death to feeling that for Uncle Ben who died years ago? Does he never mention Uncle Ben at all? Or does he mention him now, as if he's suddenly become a more prominent and influential figure in Peter's life?

And if he was so significant all along, then why did he never mention him at all while in the MCU? Where does this suddenly yearning for his uncle come from?

 

[Spider-Fan]

How does Peter suddenly go from feeling remorse for Tony Stark's death to feeling that for Uncle Ben who died years ago? Does he never mention Uncle Ben at all? Or does he mention him now, as if he's suddenly become a more prominent and influential figure in Peter's life?

And if he was so significant all along, then why did he never mention him at all while in the MCU? Where does this suddenly yearning for his uncle come from?

These are questions only Fanboys will care about

 

[Fosterson]

I strongly disagree with the notion that carrying on with Tom Holland is a good idea. His Spider-Man has been far too intricately woven into the fabric of the MCU to suddenly pluck him out and pretend he was never part of it.

So all that stuff with Tony Stark becoming a surrogate father-figure to Peter? Never happened.

All that stuff with Peter fighting Thanos and subsequently getting killed in a universe-level extermination-event? Never happened.

All that stuff with Peter fighting alongside all of the heroes of the MCU in the final, climactic showdown of the Infinity Saga? Never happened.

All that stuff with Peter struggling to come to terms with Tony's death? Never happened.

Furthermore, the idea that it's "risky" to recast Spider-Man again reminds me of when people were arguing that Andrew Garfield should carry on playing Spidey in the MCU, regardless of how badly it would screw up the continuity, simply because audiences wouldn't "accept" a new actor taking over so soon after TASM 2. Well, audiences did accept it. The same way they accepted Affleck as Batman (yes, those movies were poorly received, but not for this reason) just four years after Bale's last movie and the same way they'll accept Robert Pattinson's Batman.

Audiences are willing to accept reboots and recasts so long as the movies are good. This will be Sony's main challenge moving forward.

 

[bapi]

This is very true, I must say. But there also the chance this could be another TASM problem. I also didn't care much for Venom. So on one hand, I really both Homecoming and Far From Home didn't do anything to me, so this doesnt really bother me much, but on the other things could go back to being even worse than before..

I must say, and im sure others wont agree, but I'm relieved a bit that I don't have to worry about Spider-man hanging onto Iron Man anymore. That makes me wonder what will happen next in terms of the universe Holland is in.

Honestly Holland is 24 next summer so they should just jump to college Peter anyway. That whole high school thing was a good idea but they didn't really use it well plus the era of hs rom-coms was basically 1995-2008 or so. Webb tried it and it was quite pointless, Feige tried it so they could mention Hughes and so but honestly... Let Peter grow.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I strongly disagree with the notion that carrying on with Tom Holland is a good idea. His Spider-Man has been far too intricately woven into the fabric of the MCU to suddenly pluck him out and pretend he was never part of it.

So all that stuff with Tony Stark becoming a surrogate father-figure to Peter? Never happened.

All that stuff with Peter fighting Thanos and subsequently getting killed in a universe-level extermination-event? Never happened.

All that stuff with Peter fighting alongside all of the heroes of the MCU in the final, climactic showdown of the Infinity Saga? Never happened.

All that stuff with Peter struggling to come to terms with Tony's death? Never happened.

Furthermore, the idea that it's "risky" to recast Spider-Man again reminds me of when people were arguing that Andrew Garfield should carry on playing Spidey in the MCU, regardless of how badly it would screw up the continuity, simply because audiences wouldn't "accept" a new actor taking over so soon after TASM 2. Well, audiences did accept it. The same way they accepted Affleck as Batman (yes, those movies were poorly received, but not for this reason) just four years after Bale's last movie and the same way they'll accept Robert Pattinson's Batman.

Audiences are willing to accept reboots and recasts so long as the movies are good. This will be Sony's main challenge moving forward.

There's a difference between never happened and never mentioned.

 

[Yellow Cyclone]

the reason the audience accepted holland was that it was an easier pill to swallow after a small part in civil war

i remember people didn't accept garfield after tobey, and if they do recast holland it'll be a very similar scenario, so good luck with that sony. holland is a spider-man for an entire new generation, widely accepted and wanted

 

[Fosterson]

These are questions only Fanboys will care about

If Fanboys are the only people who care about character development then sure. Whether you like it or not, Peter's relationship with Tony is a HUGE part of his character in the MCU. You can't just drop this and pretend it never happened.

 

[bapi]

Mainly Far From Home was way too popular to recast Holland. Maybe they'll want to work with lower budget to make sure they make money but right now it's smarter to keep him, introduce new characters and see how audiences react.

 

[Spider-Fan]

If Fanboys are the only people who care about character development then sure. Whether you like it or not, Peter's relationship with Tony is a HUGE part of his character in the MCU. You can't just drop this and pretend it never happened.

Tony Stark and his death was almost entirely dealt with in this past movie. Even if Marvel Studios were involved in the third movie, I bet you Tony Stark would have had minimal mention. Reason being his death has been covered and it's time to move on from a story perspective. Continuing to mention Tony's death every five seconds and every movie you ever make from now on is just beating a dead horse. So really I don't think we lose much here. You can develop Peter in a thousand other ways

 

[ZenTheAvenger]

I'm absolutely gutted about this. Spider-Man and the MCU belong together and I want to see more great MCU Spidey stories :-(

It will be an absolute travesty if we don't get to see Spidey crossing over for more Avengers films, event films and with the likes of the Fantastic Four!

I'm praying both parties can sort this out!

 

[Shikamaru]

I strongly disagree with the notion that carrying on with Tom Holland is a good idea. His Spider-Man has been far too intricately woven into the fabric of the MCU to suddenly pluck him out and pretend he was never part of it.

Whatever happens, I don't think Sony will ever treat Holland's Spider-Man as not part of the MCU. They'll try their best to pretend it's the same version no matter what.

 

[Fosterson]

There's a difference between never happened and never mentioned.

So Peter will never mention traveling to space, meeting Doctor Strange, the Guardians, fighting the battle of all battles to save life itself from Thanos? You'd sort of expect those experiences to make an impression on a 15 year old kid from Queens

And never mention Tony again?

Will Stark Tower suddenly disappear from New York's skyline?

And I suppose the next time there's a big battle in New York, Peter will sleep in?

 

[Spider-Fan]

So Peter will never mention traveling to space, meeting Doctor Strange, the Guardians, fighting the battle of all battles to save life itself from Thanos.

And never mention Tony again?

Will Stark Tower suddenly disappear from New York's skyline?

And I suppose the next time there's a big battle in New York, Peter will sleep in?

Stark sold off the tower so we don't know what's happening with it at this point. Probably going to become the Baxter Building, but it doesn't exist yet at this point. As for sleeping in the next time there's a battle, not every crossover movie is going to have every hero in the universe in it always just because Avengers Infinity War did. I know we like to think every time there's an incident in New York we're going to see every hero under the sun, but just look at a movie like Iron Man 3. When Tony quote died where were the other Avengers? I guess they hit the snooze alarm to

 

[Galactus123]

I wonder which characters will be affected by this? Can Sony still all the characters that were introduced in these Spider-Man movies?

 

[Fosterson]

Tony Stark and his death was almost entirely dealt with in this past movie. Even if Marvel Studios were involved in the third movie, I bet you Tony Stark would have had minimal mention. Reason being his death has been covered and it's time to move on from a story perspective. Continuing to mention Tony's death every five seconds and every movie you ever make from now on is just beating a dead horse. So really I don't think we lose much here. You can develop Peter in a thousand other ways

It's not just Tony. What about the fact that Vulture's suit was entirely derived from Chitauri tech?

 

[Schlosser85]

It's not just Tony. What about the fact that Vulture's suit was entirely derived from Chitauri tech?

That doesn't mean they have to actually mention the Chitauri again, it was already established in his origin prologue in Homecoming.

 

[Spider-Fan]

It's not just Tony. What about the fact that Vulture's suit was entirely derived from Chitauri tech?

He can either use a redesign suit made by Oscorp, Doctor Octopus, or someone else. Or even use the same suit just never mention the alien tech. It's not like it being made of alien tech is something that necessarily would have to always be mentioned in casual conversation.

 

[Galactus123]

This might be a good thing. Spider-Man can finally be Spider-Man and not be part of The Avengers.

 

[Arachnerd]

I refuse to believe Spider-Man going back into the hands of Avi Arad will ever be a good thing.

 

[Fosterson]

Stark sold off the tower so we don't know what's happening with it at this point. Probably going to become the Baxter Building, but it doesn't exist yet at this point.

The tower still exists, and as long as it does, it's a giant slice of MCU sticking in the middle of Spidey's home city.

As for sleeping in the next time there's a battle, not every crossover movie is going to have every hero in the universe in it always just because Avengers Infinity War did. I know we like to think every time there's an incident in New York we're going to see every hero under the sun, but just look at a movie like Iron Man 3. When Tony quote died where were the other Avengers? I guess they hit the snooze alarm to

Rhodey was on the case. Thor was defending the Nine Realms, Cap and Nat were probably on a mission with Shield, Barton was with his family and Bruce was probably in hiding.