The Amazing Spider-Man Spider-Man Reboot Costume Part 4 - "What's that in his eye??" - Part 5

[Godzilla2014]

It'd be too similar to SM1. Yes, I went there. I mean sure, Gwen dying makes it hugely different but I dunno I feel like the dumb GA would feel it was the same song and dance.

It kind of is, but that's because they'd be using the same source material. Plus, if you're adapting the Green Goblin's Last Stand, you can't end the movie before Norman's death. Otherwise, the story hasn't ended.

 

[Spiderman6592]

I think leaving the third film to Peter hunting down and killing the Goblin would be cool.

 

[Godzilla2014]

I think leaving the third film to Peter hunting down and killing the Goblin would be cool.

The bridge scene should be the Green Goblin's last stand if you're going to adapt that story. If you wanted to avoid the song and dance of SM1, you could have the second end with an epilogue on board a space shuttle with John Jameson. I'd leave the third for the symbiote so it could have its own story instead of being a 2-hour climax for the previous one.

 

[Spiderman6592]

That's true, but I don't think the symbiote arc can be covered in one film. I think one day in the future, an entire trilogy should be dedicated to the symbiote arc.

 

[Godzilla2014]

That's true, but I don't think the symbiote arc can be covered in one film. I think one day in the future, an entire trilogy should be dedicated to the symbiote arc.

I'd have a film mostly dedicated to Spider-Man wearing the symbiote.
In the previous film, Peter nearly kills Norman Osborn with his bare hands. He is only prevented from finishing him off by Norman's accidental suicide by Goblin Glider, leaving a question of whether or not he would have gone through with it.
The symbiote would be a way of addressing and giving an answer to that question, as he nearly kills the film's main villain in the climax. He manages to stop himself before doing something he would regret, and he realizes what his anger has turned him into, and gets rid of the symbiote.
How's that?

 

[Troy_Parker]

I'd have a film mostly dedicated to Spider-Man wearing the symbiote.
In the previous film, Peter nearly kills Norman Osborn with his bare hands. He is only prevented from finishing him off by Norman's accidental suicide by Goblin Glider, leaving a question of whether or not he would have gone through with it.
The symbiote would be a way of addressing and giving an answer to that question, as he nearly kills the film's main villain in the climax. He manages to stop himself before doing something he would regret, and he realizes what his anger has turned him into, and gets rid of the symbiote.
How's that?

I had an idea like this, I think this'd work.

 

[Godzilla2014]

I had an idea like this, I think this'd work.

I think it's awesome. It goes straight from one of my favorite Spider-Man villains (Green Goblin) to the set-up for another one of my favorites (Venom).

 

[Spider-Who?]

If we're worried about the GA thinking the Gwen death is the same old song and dance, having yet ANOTHER third film deal with the symbiotic would be even worse.

I love Venom and his story, but I think it'd be wise to steer clear of it this go round.

 

[Marvel Spider]

If we're worried about the GA thinking the Gwen death is the same old song and dance, having yet ANOTHER third film deal with the symbiotic would be even worse.

I love Venom and his story, but I think it'd be wise to steer clear of it this go round.

Agreed.

 

[Ultra Ham]

I dunno. I think it could go either way. I'd like it if,


A. She dies at the end of the third with a flash forward featuring Mary Jane.

or

B. She dies at the VERY end of the second, and the third picks up with Gwen still in Peter's arms. a la Dexter season 4/5.

I was thinking of the Dexter season 4 finale as well! That finale was amazingly done. Rita's death came out of nowhere and was a huge shock much like Gwen's. Unlike the Dexter finale though, some from of resolution is needed for the second film, Spider-Man is not Dexter and the audience would not except it the way the Dexter finale was. The third season could act as the Dexter fifth season where Peter has to cope with her death and move on becoming stronger in the process. Mary Jane (hopefully established in the second) could play a similar role as Lumen, developing a close relationship with Peter and eventually a romantic one. The Black Suit could also play a role.

The death of Gwen Stacy could really work in the second movie if done right and really shape the trilogy in a positive way. That said I would prefer her to die in the third movie so that more plot development and characters could lead up to it. It would be more difficult to do that though because the audience expects the trilogy to end on a happy note.

What I really don't want to see is Gwen's death, everything sad, then BAM! Mary Jane, everything's okay. They aren't going to do it though so I don't need to worry.

 

[Spider-Who?]

I've always said that I wanted Gwen's death at the end of the second. I don't want the reboot trilogy to end on a downer again.

Beginning of 2: Perhaps Gwen and Peter are on the outs. She needs time away from Spidey. Through out the film, May tries to get him to go out with MJ like in the comics. Near the third act, Peter and Gwen seem like they're about to get back together and be stronger for it when Gwen dies. This makes her death far more tragic, IMO. At the end of the film Peter finally meets MJ. Film ends with her tag line.

 

[Ultra Ham]

I'd have a film mostly dedicated to Spider-Man wearing the symbiote.
In the previous film, Peter nearly kills Norman Osborn with his bare hands. He is only prevented from finishing him off by Norman's accidental suicide by Goblin Glider, leaving a question of whether or not he would have gone through with it.
The symbiote would be a way of addressing and giving an answer to that question, as he nearly kills the film's main villain in the climax. He manages to stop himself before doing something he would regret, and he realizes what his anger has turned him into, and gets rid of the symbiote.
How's that?

I was opposed to having to having a symbiote movie without Venom merely because in movies you don't have time to pace these things and three movies is sometimes all you get. The third movie should have things mostly tied up too. I'm making the assumption that Gwen's death is in the second movie which may not be what you had in mind. If Gwen died in the third movie and there was some resolution, this plot could work but not quite as well.

The more I think of it though, the final inner-battle with the symbiote could be incredible, I'm thinking of Spectacular Spider-Man in particular and they could do it even better. If another movie was certain I'd say they should do it. You know even if it isn't, it could still work.

 

[Godzilla2014]

If we're worried about the GA thinking the Gwen death is the same old song and dance, having yet ANOTHER third film deal with the symbiotic would be even worse.

I love Venom and his story, but I think it'd be wise to steer clear of it this go round.

I would much rather see Venom again than the likes of Vulture.

I was thinking of the Dexter season 4 finale as well! That finale was amazingly done. Rita's death came out of nowhere and was a huge shock much like Gwen's. Unlike the Dexter finale though, some from of resolution is needed for the second film, Spider-Man is not Dexter and the audience would not except it the way the Dexter finale was. The third season could act as the Dexter fifth season where Peter has to cope with her death and move on becoming stronger in the process. Mary Jane (hopefully established in the second) could play a similar role as Lumen, developing a close relationship with Peter and eventually a romantic one. The Black Suit could also play a role.

The death of Gwen Stacy could really work in the second movie if done right and really shape the trilogy in a positive way. That said I would prefer her to die in the third movie so that more plot development and characters could lead up to it. It would be more difficult to do that though because the audience expects the trilogy to end on a happy note.

What I really don't want to see is Gwen's death, everything sad, then BAM! Mary Jane, everything's okay. They aren't going to do it though so I don't need to worry.

Agreed.

I was opposed to having to having a symbiote movie without Venom merely because in movies you don't have time to pace these things and three movies is sometimes all you get. The third movie should have things mostly tied up too. I'm making the assumption that Gwen's death is in the second movie which may not be what you had in mind. If Gwen died in the third movie and there was some resolution, this plot could work but not quite as well.

Venom needs his own film to torment Peter Parker.

The more I think of it though, the final inner-battle with the symbiote could be incredible, I'm thinking of Spectacular Spider-Man in particular and they could do it even better. If another movie was certain I'd say they should do it. You know even if it isn't, it could still work.

I wouldn't mind the part where Peter talks to Uncle Ben, but I'd prefer to not see Peter defeat the symbiote with a wall of his Facebook friends.

 

[TheDragonator]

I'm interested in how they redo the wrestling scene. Will they do a proto-suit, like Raimi, or have the regular suit right off the bat?

 

[Spiderman6592]

No one knows if there will even be a wrestling angle right now.

 

[Godzilla2014]

I'm interested in how they redo the wrestling scene. Will they do a proto-suit, like Raimi, or have the regular suit right off the bat?

I don't know.

No one knows if there will even be a wrestling angle right now.

What the hell else would they do?

 

[Mako]

I'm interested in how they redo the wrestling scene. Will they do a proto-suit, like Raimi, or have the regular suit right off the bat?

There's the mask he wears with the sunglasses which if I had to guess is something like a proto-suit.

 

[Juicy J]

If we're worried about the GA thinking the Gwen death is the same old song and dance, having yet ANOTHER third film deal with the symbiotic would be even worse.

I love Venom and his story, but I think it'd be wise to steer clear of it this go round.

Debatable, simply because Venom's first appearance on screen was the definition of underwhelming. Done right it could be amazing and I definitely think it's worth another shot.

 

[Spiderman6592]

What the hell else would they do?

Not sure to be honest, but there hasn't been any indication that the wrestling angle will take place.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Not sure to be honest, but there hasn't been any indication that the wrestling angle will take place.

But it's a critical part of the origin that's been a mainstay in most incarnations of Spider-Man's origin for the past 50 years. If you're going to tell Spider-Man's origin, you have to have the wrestling angle.

 

[Spiderman6592]

To be honest, I'd be willing to bet a majority of people have no idea that the wrestling angle is part of Spider-Man's origin and that might be what they cut out in order to further differentiate things.

 

[©KAW]

But it's a critical part of the origin that's been a mainstay in most incarnations of Spider-Man's origin for the past 50 years. If you're going to tell Spider-Man's origin, you have to have the wrestling angle.

The mechanical web-shooters are also apart of that 50 year old origin story, yet somebody completely threw them out. But of course, we'll make idiotic reasons up for that part, along with Spider-Man letting a robber and killer go scott free...because him say sorry. Bye bye "With Great Power..." speech, right out the window.

 

[Godzilla2014]

To be honest, I'd be willing to bet a majority of people have no idea that the wrestling angle is part of Spider-Man's origin and that might be what they cut out in order to further differentiate things.

But it's a major part of the origin as it's been presented. It's at the wrestling match that Peter tries to profit from his powers, and in some continuities, where he met the burglar. What would be the point in cutting it out?

 

[Juicy J]

To be honest, I'd be willing to bet a majority of people have no idea that the wrestling angle is part of Spider-Man's origin and that might be what they cut out in order to further differentiate things.

^ That's what I'm thinking also.
And if they do put it in there, it'll probably be wildly different from the one in the first film.
If I was sony and I wanted to avoid doing a retread of the first movie in any respect including the wrestling scene, I'd focus on the TV star angle. It's also from the comics.
Heck, the main point of the wrestling scene was that he let a burglar run past him that eventually killed his Uncle. That could easily be done at a TV studio

 

[Godzilla2014]

The mechanical web-shooters are also apart of that 50 year old origin story, yet somebody completely threw them out. But of course, we'll make idiotic reasons up for that part, along with Spider-Man letting a robber and killer go scott free...because him say sorry.

The mechanical webshooters aren't nearly as essential to the origin as Spider-Man's wrestling.