State your unpopular film related opinion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 28

[KRYPTON INC.]

I've never found anything funny about Bill Murray.

All in good fun. Like what you like man.

 

[DyeLorean]

I love Knowing. There's a constant feeling of doom, that something bad is going to happen and [BLACKOUT]they fuc*ing went ahead and did it.[/BLACKOUT]. Not to mention the standout plane and subway sequences.
Is one of those films I like to revisit every few years because it just puts me in a special mood that very few movies do.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

I love Knowing too, awesome film. I was reminded of the movie 'cause X-Men Apocalypse also used Beethoven's Allegretto

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

I don't really remember knowing but when I first saw it I thought it was cheesy and kinda boring because it felt like it was going nowhere. But it's not the worst movie ever

 

[Rowsdower!]

If X-Men Apocalypse is anything like Knowing, then I can see why it's getting bad reviews.

 

[Tron Bonne]

If X-Men Apocalypse is anything like Knowing, then I can see why it's getting bad reviews.

I don't think using a single music piece was a comparison of the two.

 

[DyeLorean]

I really liked The Brothers Grimsby. I mean, is not rocket science, is a comedy, and all comedies have to do is make you laugh, and I laughed a lot.

 

[Lasirius]

I am sick of the MCU.

I'm with you.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

I love Need for Speed and enjoyed it more than i've enjoyed any F&F movie

 

[Tron Bonne]

I don't know what the general thoughts are here or on other web forums, but considering how massively popular they've been, I'm stating this as an unpopular opinion:

I really just have no interest whatsoever in all of these Disney live-action remakes of their classic animated series. If they're trying to do something different with the source material, like Maleficent, sure, I'll be more interested (even if that movie didn't end up very good), but these movies that are more or less just straight remakes with just a few altercations like Jungle Book or Cinderella or what looks to be Beauty and the Beast...eh. I don't know, I love most of these films and all, but the novelty of seeing them adapted into live-action is lost on me.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I don't know what the general thoughts are here or on other web forums, but considering how massively popular they've been, I'm stating this as an unpopular opinion:

I really just have no interest whatsoever in all of these Disney live-action remakes of their classic animated series. If they're trying to do something different with the source material, like Maleficent, sure, I'll be more interested (even if that movie didn't end up very good), but these movies that are more or less just straight remakes with just a few altercations like Jungle Book or Cinderella or what looks to be Beauty and the Beast...eh. I don't know, I love most of these films and all, but the novelty of seeing them adapted into live-action is lost on me.

I'm with you. Now I thought The Jungle Book was fantastic, but I just don't get it. What are they doing differently but regurgitating past success to films that were already great to begin with? Yes, Disney has gotten the hint and they're good, but I do think this is still exploitative and it's just tiring to see just consecutive remakes of past films that people have already seen. I don't get anything out of seeing another Beauty and the Beast movie when it's already been done just fine, no matter how good it is. It's still the same thing and it's taken the place of what could have been something new and original to inspire people more so. I mean my God, the fact we could see just a mirror image of the Golden Age of Disney animated films is just frustrating. It's not just one or two remakes interspersed. It's a consecutive line of these remakes year after year to these well known and beloved films and then sequels to these remakes...

I'm really starting to think just what the hell will this generation of kids be inspired by. I think Brian K. Vaughn put it best. "When my dad was a kid he was inspired by Doc Savage and the Shadow. When I was a kid I was inspired by Spider-Man and Star Wars. My kids now are inspired by Spider-Man and Star Wars." It's all shrinking and I'm worried it can stop. We're not progressing that much in film in terms of originality and pushing storytelling. I don't want yet another Disney remake or new SW film to rekindle what people felt in the past. I want a new film to do that. It's how movies survive.

I love that these big movies have gotten better which is something we all wished for, but we didn't wish it to include the cost of less original films and these brand films overtaking the entire industry. There needs to be a balance of these great big budget brand films with original filmmaking.

 

[Mace Dolex]

I don't know what the general thoughts are here or on other web forums, but considering how massively popular they've been, I'm stating this as an unpopular opinion:

I really just have no interest whatsoever in all of these Disney live-action remakes of their classic animated series. If they're trying to do something different with the source material, like Maleficent, sure, I'll be more interested (even if that movie didn't end up very good), but these movies that are more or less just straight remakes with just a few altercations like Jungle Book or Cinderella or what looks to be Beauty and the Beast...eh. I don't know, I love most of these films and all, but the novelty of seeing them adapted into live-action is lost on me.

Except for the Tron franchise ive never liked anything by Disney, not even as a kid and ive never seen any of their animated films.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I'm with you. Now I thought The Jungle Book was fantastic, but I just don't get it. What are they doing differently but regurgitating past success to films that were already great to begin with? Yes, Disney has gotten the hint and they're good, but I do think this is still exploitative and it's just tiring to see just consecutive remakes of past films that people have already seen. I don't get anything out of seeing another Beauty and the Beast movie when it's already been done just fine, no matter how good it is. It's still the same thing and it's taken the place of what could have been something new and original to inspire people more so. I mean my God, the fact we could see just a mirror image of the Golden Age of Disney animated films is just frustrating. It's not just one or two remakes interspersed. It's a consecutive line of these remakes year after year to these well known and beloved films and then sequels to these remakes...

Is that what Disney has ALWAYS done though? Almost all of their popular animated movies are based on familiar stories. Yes, they've added songs and singing pots and pans and all that crap, but they're still old fairy tales. Disney has always been derivative, so it's really no surprise that now they're just remaking their own movies in live action.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Is that what Disney has ALWAYS done though? Almost all of their popular animated movies are based on familiar stories. Yes, they've added songs and singing pots and pans and all that crap, but they're still old fairy tales. Disney has always been derivative, so it's really no surprise that now they're just remaking their own movies in live action.

It's just doubly redundant. They're not just adapting classic fairy tales, they're remaking their OWN animated adaptations of those fairy tales that they've already done which are so unique in and of themselves that have taken on a life of their own. They're so classic people think they're Disney's own original stories and no one else can do them as well. It's not another studio doing it, the fact there's nothing much new here and the fact they spend all of this money on just repeating their own past successes is just frustrating. It's just the definition of being creatively bankrupt.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

It's just doubly redundant. They're not just adapting classic fairy tales, they're remaking their OWN animated adaptations of those fairy tales that they've already done which are so unique in and of themselves that have taken on a life of their own. They're so classic people think they're Disney's own original stories and no one else can do them as well. It's not another studio doing it, the fact there's nothing much new here and the fact they spend all of this money on just repeating their own past successes is just frustrating. It's just the definition of being creatively bankrupt.

It is pretty weird. It's like Nintendo, they just do the same **** over and over. Afraid of breaking the formula I guess. Can't say disney has had much success with original live action stuff though.

 

[StormC]

When I was a kid I was inspired by Spider-Man and Star Wars. My kids now are inspired by Spider-Man and Star Wars.

That's a pretty extreme example. Some franchises and characters are evergreen, and stay weaved into pop culture forever. Spider-Man and Star Wars are two of the biggest fictional brands ever and have never faded into even remote obscurity since their introduction. Even if there were tons of original Hollywood movies right now, there would still be millions of kids inspired by Spider-Man and Star Wars.

 

[DyeLorean]

Even after all this years and all the superhero movies we've got, I think X2 is still one of the best ones. It kinda feels like a Marvel Studios film, it has great arcs for every character, it has humor in the right places, a lot of attention to detail, great use of everyone's powers when needed, etc. As much as I like FC and DOFP, X2 is still the X-Men movie to beat.

 

[MadVillainy]

Even after all this years and all the superhero movies we've got, I think X2 is still one of the best ones. It kinda feels like a Marvel Studios film, it has great arcs for every character, it has humor in the right places, a lot of attention to detail, great use of everyone's powers when needed, etc. As much as I like FC and DOFP, X2 is still the X-Men movie to beat.

Same for me.

 

[Rowsdower!]

For me, it's a toss-up between X2 and FC. Those are my two favorite X films.

 

[StormC]

FC resonated the most with me. Singer is a fine director, but I've never been very emotionally engaged by his movies.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

FC resonated the most with me. Singer is a fine director, but I've never been very emotionally engaged by his movies.

Ditto. Deadpool's the best X-Men movie to me. I hate the aesthetic in pretty much every x-men movie but first class.

 

[Doctor Jones]

That's a pretty extreme example. Some franchises and characters are evergreen, and stay weaved into pop culture forever. Spider-Man and Star Wars are two of the biggest fictional brands ever and have never faded into even remote obscurity since their introduction. Even if there were tons of original Hollywood movies right now, there would still be millions of kids inspired by Spider-Man and Star Wars.

I get that, but you're missing the point. There's nothing new besides these established properties. There should be more choices these many years later besides those brands and there isn't. It's pretty stagnant right now. Instead of trying to make the potential next great inspiring film, studios are just going back to the glory days well and simply using that. Therefore we're in this cycle where kids can't be inspired by the next new thing that can go on to make another new thing to inspire the next generation. The worry is it stops here and that's bad for movies and imaginations. Studios don't get you don't need to spend $250 million to make a great film. Some of the most successful films had very small budgets and became successful on their own. They're backwards on this. They think putting more money into it will make it more successful. We're in the age of event driven movies where nearly every movie is an event driven film. Well... it takes the event out of it. They don't same to realize that a great $50 million dollar film can make them hundreds of millions. But investors these days demand more.

I don't know the more I think about it, the thoughts of all these movies just makes me tired.

Even after all this years and all the superhero movies we've got, I think X2 is still one of the best ones. It kinda feels like a Marvel Studios film, it has great arcs for every character, it has humor in the right places, a lot of attention to detail, great use of everyone's powers when needed, etc. As much as I like FC and DOFP, X2 is still the X-Men movie to beat.

I think I prefer X2 over DOFP, but it comes pretty close. Not to mention Stryker is a very underrated villain. Played so well by Cox.

I don't even think I'll be seeing Apocalypse. I just don't have tolerance for seeing ****** comic book films in theaters anymore. I finally watched the FF film and by God... not even worth waiting for HBO.

 

[Rowsdower!]

FC resonated the most with me. Singer is a fine director, but I've never been very emotionally engaged by his movies.

Agreed. I was sympathetic toward Magneto in Singer's films, but FC really made me feel his pain. But I suppose that may have been because he was more of a hero there and in Singer's movies, he was already a full-fledged villain.

 

[2kt09]

I get that, but you're missing the point. There's nothing new besides these established properties. There should be more choices these many years later besides those brands and there isn't. It's pretty stagnant right now. Instead of trying to make the potential next great inspiring film, studios are just going back to the glory days well and simply using that. Therefore we're in this cycle where kids can't be inspired by the next new thing that can go on to make another new thing to inspire the next generation. The worry is it stops here and that's bad for movies and imaginations. Studios don't get you don't need to spend $250 million to make a great film. Some of the most successful films had very small budgets and became successful on their own. They're backwards on this. They think putting more money into it will make it more successful. We're in the age of event driven movies where nearly every movie is an event driven film. Well... it takes the event out of it. They don't same to realize that a great $50 million dollar film can make them hundreds of millions. But investors these days demand more.

I don't know the more I think about it, the thoughts of all these movies just makes me tired.

Tentpole Blockbusters are driven by established properties. All the other genres manage to make something fresh.
We live in the internet age. What actually is new and fresh can and should be seeked out.

you used to get more variety of stories, films and performances. You had more of a chance of a profound film experience. But that’s not gone. I think that has been relegated to the independent world – but they have to do it twice as fast for half the money.

-Mel Gibson

 

[Doctor Jones]

Gibson's not wrong. Innaritu is also right when he says the middle class of movie making is disappearing. You either have the $250 million dollar blockbuster or the micro budget Oscar bait films.

It's why television is the superior medium right now. It's in that middle ground that's sorely missing from movies now. And there's original, bold storytelling that movies won't take risks on.

And the blockbusters that were considered events and spaced out in the year aren't so unique and event anymore because they're just one of what most movies are now. When I look at most movies in the next five years, I just get sad. Why do you think The Nice Guys needs all the help it can get?