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  1. The Endless WE are Groot

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    I DO think Logan is a masterpiece and is better than The Dark Knight but quite a margin.

    It does justice to its main character. Logan's characterisation and arc is brilliant. It was so believable even with this unbelievable character. You can truly feel the pain and desperation. My missus was in tears at the end. I was very close lol. Only a handful of films ever have made me tear up. Dafne Keen's performance is unbelievable and X23 is handled so well. Never liked the comic book version. Then Patrick Stewart with one of the best performances of his storied career. Even Stephen Merchant's Caliban is perfectly droll and gets some emotional meat. Boyd Holbrook injects a lot of interesting touches into an under written role.

    The pacing is spot on. It never drags but you still have time to absorb the scenes and build tension. The plot itself is executed well. And the thing I love is the subtle world building. It's like Children of Men. A lived in, dirty future with small differences that don't scream for attention. Like the auto-freighters that cause the crash.

    It SHOWS us a lot things... it doesn't spoon feed us with almost monologue esque conversations like TDK does. The characters feel real. The way they act and speak is like how real people act and speak. It's all so believable.

    Then the action. It all has weight and is shot/edited so well. Mangold weaves the set pieces into the story so naturally. You never get the sense that this film was made with a quota for action scenes, like most others. And the brutality! I knew it was violent but this was gruesome. But I feel it had to be. This film would simply not be as powerful if it was neutered in any way. It'does be like Platoon or Saving Private Ryan with PG13 ratings.

    The only thing TDK has over Logan is The Joker. Characterisation, acting, story, action, dialogue, editing, cinematography... for me Logan is better at everything. I guess that's unpopular lol
     
  2. Joe Von Zombie Hell yeah!

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    I think the Constantine film with Keanu is better than any of the DCEU movies.
     
  3. OutOfBoose #ReleaseTheAyerCut

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    DCEU receives a lot of bashing (some of it is well-deserved). Not many movies are worse than DCEU films these days. So almost any opinion in fashion of "I think <insert movie> is better than DCEU" won't be that unpopular.
     
  4. terry78 My name is Stefan, sweet thang

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    They need to just have a plan and not try and ape Marvel. They should just have been doing one superhero movie a year, lead up to Justice League later.
     
  5. 2kt09 Snyder Rent-Free

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    That's still aping Marvel.

    What they had before was more than sufficient: a string of DC superhero flicks alongside Vertigo adaptations.
     
  6. terry78 My name is Stefan, sweet thang

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    Technically they were doing it in the comics before Marvel came out, but Marvel basically nailed the concept in live action.
     
  7. 2kt09 Snyder Rent-Free

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    Even in animation, Marvel beat them to it before the DCAUs. So, it gives that impression they were always big on this connected/shared universe.
     
  8. James Built from Lego

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    Not Gareth Edwards...
     
  9. Spider-Aziz Boards made me cry

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    Can we get that guy from ID4 production to be in charge of a future Star Wars spin-off??
     
  10. I Am Jack's... Complete Lack Of Surprise

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    Logan completely falls apart in the third act to the point where it ruins the entire movie.

    Once they get to the house. I had some issues here and there beforehand, but overall the movie was really good up until this exact point. Wasn't a big fan of Laura's backstory, but I could look past it. But as soon as it was explained, I instantly feared we would see something like an "ultimate weapon" clone. And once that did happen, you could literally see my face shut down in disappointment in the theater. X-24 was a disastrous decision that completely ruined the movie for me beyond all repair. Can't even be saved by the final shot, which is perfection but tainted by the sour taste left by the last 45 minutes. I have no idea how it was thought to be a good idea. But take him out completely, and the third act is still weak as hell. I honestly don't know how more people haven't been turned off by the third act. Obviously I know because it's all just opinion but you know what I mean.
     
  11. shauner111 Registered

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    Lego Batman was overrated. People calling it the best DC film since TDK. I give it about 60 percent. Funny moments for sure but right now I don't feel like watching it again. At least not on my own.

    Even though I liked Don't Breathe and Ex Machina, they were also overhyped as special movies for their genre. They were both predictable. Not bad films, but not fantastic.

    A lot of people on here think Looper was a mess. I remember loving that movie. Maybe that's actually a popular opinion though ?
     
  12. Ivan Drago Do Not Want

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    [BLACKOUT]I loved X-24. His first scene in the farmhouse was straight out of a horror movie. [/BLACKOUT]
     
  13. Doctor Jones shocked and baffled

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    I liked Alien Resurrection and it was good. If the misery porn that is Alien 3 has been looked at as more positive over the years I can't see why this shouldn't either.
     
  14. 2kt09 Snyder Rent-Free

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    Looper's like one of the best modern timetravel flicks.

    I don't at all know how Rian Johnson ended up as the right guy for Star Wars, especially its flagship trilogy.
     
  15. gwynplaine L'homme qui rit.

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    I also liked Resurrection better than A3. I don't remember that much about it, but at least it had that underwater aliens sequence that was pretty cool.
     
  16. James Built from Lego

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    I think it's come up in this thread before, but I like Alien Resurrection a lot too. There's a lot of cool stuff in that movie!
     
  17. Drizzle There's no knowing where we're rowing

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    Alien Resurrection being better than Alien 3 shouldn't be an unpopular opinion at all. It doesn't kill off beloved characters and it's got Ron f***in' Perlman, for God's sake.
     
  18. KRYPTON INC. Incorporated Kryptonian

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    One of the reasons that it worked for me as well. It casts a sense of dread on the character going forward.
     
  19. XtremelyBaneful Rest in peace, Fahim Saleh

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    old man logan is a better movie than captain america civil war
     
  20. OutOfBoose #ReleaseTheAyerCut

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    Agree. Terrible decision all around. Though it's not the only thing, that ruined the film for me. Smartphone exposition (both the way it was done and the content), mawkish (and overall boring - just take a look at "your favorite quotes" thread) dialogue, action past first two encounters... I struggle to understand why this movie is such a revelation for so many people.
     
  21. The Endless WE are Groot

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    I don't see the issue with X24. They were trying to create soldiers with these kids, but they didn't want to be killers. They fought back against their programming. So X24 was created. The version of Logan completely over come with rage. The ultimate killer.

    The scene at the farmhouse reminded me of the first Terminator. It was like a horror movie.

    And what's the issue with the third act?
     
  22. Ivan Drago Do Not Want

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    Since we're talking about Logan, I can say with the utmost confidence after having seen it 3 times, that I think it's better than any MCU movie.

    Also Logan is the best terminator movie since T2.
     
  23. KRYPTON INC. Incorporated Kryptonian

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    I think there have been MCU films that have hit some incredible dramatic and character high points... But none have been able to maintain those highs for the amount of time LOGAN did. Granted, LOGAN maintained that level more than any FOX Mutant film or any of the DCEU films so far... And that's okay. I don't need every super hero story on film to be TDK or LOGAN, in quality, content and tone. I'm incredibly happy with how LOGAN turned out but at the same time I don't think or understand the need to use this film's excellence on all levels to cudgel WB or Marvel Studio with.
     
  24. Spider-Aziz Boards made me cry

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    Shouldn't 'misery porn' title apply to the whole franchise?
    I do find the underwater sequence and Christie to be cool in Alien Resurrection, but the rest of that movie made me shake my head repeatedly.
     
  25. OutOfBoose #ReleaseTheAyerCut

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    OMG. "Misery porn" is a perfect description of Logan.
    You can dump any amount of boring exposition and "explanation" for that. But ultimately he's there for cheap thrills.
    I wish it reminded me of The Terminator, a movie that I watched zillion times. My reaction to it was "Wait, what?"
    I don't give a **** about the kids. There's no connection to them, unless you're too sentimental and just a sight of a puppy makes you tear up. Dead Xavier, the only interesting character in the entire film.
     
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