Stephen King's "IT" remake has found a writer - Part 2

[moviedoors]

I'm tired of the argument that this Pennywise is "too creepy" and needs to be more "friendlier" in order to lure children in. The only child I can recall that was lured in was Georgie. And part of that was because the kid was as dumb as rocks.

Georgie was a sweet, cute, innocent child and that's where our fear for what happens to him comes into play. But the very simple fact this kid isn't terrified of a strange man lurking in the sewers, dressed as a freakin' clown for goodness sakes, shows how dumb the kid is and that's where we subconsciously pity his death the most.

All in all, what kid wouldn't be scared of a strange clown person approaching them? Pennywise luring kids in is more of an excuse for him to toy and taunt and tease his victims before killing them outright. He could kill any child at any time if he wanted to, including Georgie. That whole scene with him isn't Pennywise trying to overcome some obstacle in his way to get to Georgie...he's literally just playing with his food before he eats it.

I'm 4/5ths thru the book now, and the "Pennywise is too scary looking" complaint is just baffling. This thing is pretty much always scary, every single time it shows up. It's presence makes people avoid it and small children cry. And it's standard mode of operation seems to be "assume a form that is immediately terrifying." I'm starting to question whether some of these people have even read the novel.

 

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**** me that was genius

 

[Octoberist]

I'm 4/5ths thru the book now, and the "Pennywise is too scary looking" complaint is just baffling. This thing is pretty much always scary, every single time it shows up. It's presence makes people avoid it and small children cry. And it's standard mode of operation seems to be "assume a form that is immediately terrifying." I'm starting to question whether some of these people have even read the novel.

It's because they are either dumb and have a miss-memory, or that they didn't read the book and they're going by what other misinformed people say. So in your case, I think it's the latter.

Anytime they show Penny here, it's during an attack, not just an interaction. It's a trailer to sell those scary shots. To think there won't have any of the nuance stuff in the book (when it IS nuance. it can get over the top with the gay victims, and some of the main cast) is bonkers.

 

[Octoberist]

I think Mike Meyers would have made a great Pennywise. #4real.

He's too controlling. In other words, often in the past, he'd be directing himself, and was lucky enough that Jay Roach allowed that to happen. That's why he gained the reputation of being a control freak and disappeared for a while.

 

[Sawyer]

From King himself.

Was anyone ever really chomping at the bit for John Waters to take on King, though?

Where Lynch is concerned, admittedly, I do think his more good-natured characters are significantly more oddball than King's, but in a venn diagram representing Lynch's villains and King's human antagonists/bullies, it's practically just two completely overlapping circles.

 

[FunkMiller]

I'm tired of the argument that this Pennywise is "too creepy" and needs to be more "friendlier" in order to lure children in. The only child I can recall that was lured in was Georgie. And part of that was because the kid was as dumb as rocks.

Georgie was a sweet, cute, innocent child and that's where our fear for what happens to him comes into play. But the very simple fact this kid isn't terrified of a strange man lurking in the sewers, dressed as a freakin' clown for goodness sakes, shows how dumb the kid is and that's where we subconsciously pity his death the most.

All in all, what kid wouldn't be scared of a strange clown person approaching them? Pennywise luring kids in is more of an excuse for him to toy and taunt and tease his victims before killing them outright. He could kill any child at any time if he wanted to, including Georgie. That whole scene with him isn't Pennywise trying to overcome some obstacle in his way to get to Georgie...he's literally just playing with his food before he eats it.

This argument is by and large espoused by people who have only seen the mini series and not read the book. Tim Curry's Pennywise isn't actually all that representative of the book's version - just that first encounter with Georgie. And even then, King's description isn't exactly 'friendly'. The whole sequence is dripping with dread and malice. Pennywise is a nasty bastard more or less from the get go.

 

[green]

Was anyone ever really chomping at the bit for John Waters to take on King, though?

Where Lynch is concerned, admittedly, I do think his more good-natured characters are significantly more oddball than King's, but in a venn diagram representing Lynch's villains and King's human antagonists/bullies, it's practically just two completely overlapping circles.

Come on…Divine as Dolores Claiborne would have been gold.

 

[The Joker]

This argument is by and large espoused by people who have only seen the mini series and not read the book. Tim Curry's Pennywise isn't actually all that representative of the book's version - just that first encounter with Georgie. And even then, King's description isn't exactly 'friendly'. The whole sequence is dripping with dread and malice. Pennywise is a nasty bastard more or less from the get go.

Even in the 1990 mini series Pennywise doesn't lure children toward him by being a friendly looking clown. The only child he toys with is Georgie. Every other time he appears he creeps the kids out in some way. Freaking out Eddie with the showers in the gym room, attacking Richie as a Werewolf, pretending to be Ben's father and then turning into a slimy covered skeleton that crawls out of the lake etc.

 

[scarlet-witch]

OMG that Cat in the Hat mashup

 

[Thundercrack85]

I think that unless this movie is surprisingly awful, it will be a huge hit.

I've never seen a non-major franchise trailer get views like this on youtube. I just read that it beat the all time record for most views in 24 hours. That means it beat Star Wars and Adele.

 

[Crosswind Ghost]

I think that unless this movie is surprisingly awful, it will be a huge hit.

I've seen the film, and i cannot go into details about it but i can genuinely say it's great. This will be a winner with the general audience and critics alike.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I've see the film, and i cannot go into details about it but i can genuinely say it's great. This will be a winner with the general audience and critics alike.

Are we talking Shining great, or The Conjuring good?

 

[Crosswind Ghost]

Are we talking Shining great, or The Conjuring good?

Haha this is not something you ask a die hard stephen king fan. I would say Shawshank, Stand By Me, and Misery are probably top tier in my mind as far as adaptations go, The shining is a great film but i see it as Kubrick's The Shining rather than an adaptation of King's novel, which i vastly prefer. I have to watch this particular film a few more times before i can determine whether i can call it a classic, but i will say i couldn't stop thinking about it for weeks after i saw it. I will say it trumps other adaptations such as The Mist, Pet Sematary, the green mile and Dorlores Claiborne, all which i really like.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I liked 1408, but no one else saw it, or read the short story. Also Carrie of course.

I actually have not read the Shining. Really need to get around to that.

If it trumps the Mist then I am fairly encouraged. Ending aside, that was a solid horror flick.

 

[Crosswind Ghost]

If it trumps the Mist then I am fairly encouraged. Ending aside, that was a solid horror flick.

I would call The Mist a great horror film, and i loved the ending .

 

[2kt09]

I will say it trumps other adaptations such as The Mist, Pet Sematary, the green mile and Dorlores Claiborne, all which i really like.

Better than The Green Mile?
You have my attention.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I didn't even know Stephen King wrote the Green Mile... It's not even set in Maine!

Seriously, I think King gets a tax credit when he sets his stories in Maine.

 

[Guts]

I didn't even know Stephen King wrote the Green Mile... It's not even set in Maine!

Seriously, I think King gets a tax credit when he sets his stories in Maine.

It was originally released as a book series but you can also get it as a single novel.

 

[Crosswind Ghost]

Better than The Green Mile?
You have my attention.

Now here's the thing, The green mile as a film, is brilliantly acted and really well written for the most part. But Darabonte has some issues with its pace and overall narrative. Still i think its a really good film, not great. I can say IT is incredibly engaging, has genuine moments of absolute terror, the best thing about it is the kids themselves and their emotional arcs with their home life and with the bonding they share with one another, and Bill's performance as Pennywise is incredible. Crap, I'm getting ahead of myself, I probably can't go any further. The biggest concern i see around the web is that it will rely on jump scares, fear not. No quick cuts or loud jump scares to be found throughout.

 

[2kt09]

Now here's the thing, The green mile as a film, is brilliantly acted and really well written for the most part. But Darabonte has some issues with its pace and overall narrative. Still i think its a really good film, not great. I can say IT is incredibly engaging, has genuine moments of absolute terror, the best thing about it is the kids themselves and their emotional arcs with their home life and with the bonding they share with one another, and Bill's performance as Pennywise is incredible. Crap, I'm getting ahead of myself, I probably can't go any further. The biggest concern i see around the web is that it will rely on jump scares, fear not. No quick cuts or loud jump scares to be found throughout.

It's the only one I've had the pleasure of rewatching several times over.

As much as I get out of the horror/thriller genre, I'm always searching for the more out there premises or executions.
From your glowing assessment, seems like the execution won you over.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Pennywise]

Now here's the thing, The green mile as a film, is brilliantly acted and really well written for the most part. But Darabonte has some issues with its pace and overall narrative. Still i think its a really good film, not great. I can say IT is incredibly engaging, has genuine moments of absolute terror, the best thing about it is the kids themselves and their emotional arcs with their home life and with the bonding they share with one another, and Bill's performance as Pennywise is incredible. Crap, I'm getting ahead of myself, I probably can't go any further. The biggest concern i see around the web is that it will rely on jump scares, fear not. No quick cuts or loud jump scares to be found throughout.

My only questions are what would you give the film on a scale from 1-10? My other question would be Curry or Skarsgård?

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Now here's the thing, The green mile as a film, is brilliantly acted and really well written for the most part. But Darabonte has some issues with its pace and overall narrative. Still i think its a really good film, not great. I can say IT is incredibly engaging, has genuine moments of absolute terror, the best thing about it is the kids themselves and their emotional arcs with their home life and with the bonding they share with one another, and Bill's performance as Pennywise is incredible. Crap, I'm getting ahead of myself, I probably can't go any further. The biggest concern i see around the web is that it will rely on jump scares, fear not. No quick cuts or loud jump scares to be found throughout.

September, here we come t:

 

[Hurm...]

No jump scares...


I'm intrigued.

 

[Pennywise]

I've spoken with a few people who went to the test screenings and they basically said that there are a few jump scares, but they're tastefully done, and not that many.