Stephen King's "IT" remake has found a writer - Part 3

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As a huge fan of the book, and Stephen King in general, it's a 9/10 for me. The changes worked because they still kept the core essence of the characters and the story.

Yep. That's more than fair. I'm disappointed that they changed and simplified the climax so much, but I also entirely understand why they did it. My expectations were all on me.

From what Muschietti is saying, we're going to get all of the actual reality of what IT is in the sequel, and at that stage, my opinion of this first film is probably going to go up, when I have both in front of me.

But for now though, the excision of pretty much everything that transcends the story of IT from just being another horror narrative similar to Nightmare On Elm Street is disappointing to me.
 
So the [blackout]full sewer scene is on YouTube along with Pennywise being beaten[/blackout]. Be careful for those who don't want to be spoiled to avoid YouTube.
 
I thought when Pennywise got all monstrous IT looked like something from Japanese Manga like from Junji Ito. The bugged out eyes, over exagerated mouth.

Totally where the makers oulled influence from. It was just to goofy and distracting IMHO
Made Pennywise far less scary.
 
I saw this earlier today, and as a huge fan of the book (it's one of my all-time favourites), I absolutely loved it. Skarsgård is so on point in his performance as Pennywise that I can't believe it, I liked Tim Curry's performance in the mini-series, but Skarsgård is so much closer to the Pennywise from the book. The CG didn't annoy me in the slightest, Pennywise is supposed to look bizarre and inhuman at points, because well, he's not human, [BLACKOUT]he's an evil cosmic friggin entity that can take the form of whatever it wants[/BLACKOUT].

The young actors playing the Losers Club are all fantastic, especially Richie and Bev. I wasn't expecting the film to actually go there with [BLACKOUT]Bev being abused by her father[/BLACKOUT], but it totally did and more power to it, it will be essential to Bev's characterisation in part 2, especially if they keep the character of Tom Rogan.

The only very slight complaints I have are them giving a lot of Mike's character traits to Ben (his interest in the history of Derry, e.t.c.) and therefore Mike coming across as a slightly flat character. I hope that doesn't mean that Ben will end up being the one who stayed in Derry in part 2 in place of Mike, adult Mike is one of my absolute favourite characters in the book. I find his story particularly moving and sad. Also, I didn't fully understand the point of changing Stan's personal fear from the dead boys in the Standpipe (the Standpipe didn't feature plot wise at all) to the woman in the painting, the dead boys would have been just as, if not more effective. But neither of those things were dealbreakers for me, not even close.

I can't wait to see it again, and part 2 can't come soon enough. I hope they go all out with the cosmic craziness and Pennywise's true origins in the sequel. They have an inbuilt audience now, it's time to get really weird. :woot:
 
Yeah that's my thing, anything that did bother me didn't bother me enough to ruin my enjoyment of the film. None of issues with the film we're a deal breaker.
 
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The music has been sticking with me, the scene as a whole was so gorgeously done and the score just enhanced that.
 
Saw it yesterday, loved it. Im a fun of IT for more than 20 years, and read the book few times, and always loved the mini series for its very Stand By Me 50s feel and Curry's performance and design/look. I was giant hopes for the movie and was not really dissapointed. Having just finished reading the book again I was amazed how completely different the movie is, I mean there arent really much similarities to the book, aside from maybe about 3 scenes which were changed a lot too. But thats what was fun to me, that I had completely no idea what will happen next because it was completely unlike the book, so it was really really fun to me

Now, it wasnt scary, but then again aside from The Others theres no movie I can recall that would scare me (mind you, scared and startled are two different things), but I did like the characters a lot, I liked the spooks that haunted them, love the Pennywise design and really have no complaint aisde from the fact that it WASNT 3D which took me out of the movie a couple of times. Watching a 2D movie in theaters for me is equivalent now to watching a black and white movie with mono audio. But oh well.

Cant wait for Bluray, I really hope itll be out this year. And the soundtrack is just magic, especially the mian theme, just brilliant

As for Skarsgard and Curry, both were pretty close to the book, the book Pennywise which is pretty much an early Joker from Batman, very playful and funny, singing and dancing (read Library scene with Ben as an adult). The Prince Albert in a Can and refrigerator jokes are from the book word for word

I wish there was some sort of making of book or full magazine special on the movie
 
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I thought when Pennywise got all monstrous IT looked like something from Japanese Manga like from Junji Ito. The bugged out eyes, over exagerated mouth.

Totally where the makers oulled influence from. It was just to goofy and distracting IMHO
Made Pennywise far less scary.

Yeah I wasn't too crazy about
Kaiju Pennywise
either, and that's coming from someone whose a BIG monster movie fan. Something about it just looked off and kind of goofy, however I have to admit that was one of my favorite jump scares in the movie. Totally unexpected, and when it happened I did jump into the back of my seat lol.
 
Saw it yesterday, loved it. Im a fun of IT for more than 20 years, and read the book few times, and always loved the mini series for its very Stand By Me 50s feel and Curry's performance and design/look. I was giant hopes for the movie and was not really dissapointed. Having just finished reading the book again I was amazed how completely different the movie is, I mean there arent really much similarities to the book, aside from maybe about 3 scenes which were changed a lot too. But thats what was fun to me, that I had completely no idea what will happen next because it was completely unlike the book, so it was really really fun to me

Now, it wasnt scary, but then again aside from The Others theres no movie I can recall that would scare me (mind you, scared and startled are two different things), but I did like the characters a lot, I liked the spooks that haunted them, love the Pennywise design and really have no complaint aisde from the fact that it WASNT 3D which took me out of the movie a couple of times. Watching a 2D movie in theaters for me is equivalent now to watching a black and white movie with mono audio. But oh well.

Cant wait for Bluray, I really hope itll be out this year. And the soundtrack is just magic, especially the mian theme, just brilliant

As for Skarsgard and Curry, both were pretty close to the book, the book Pennywise which is pretty much an early Joker from Batman, very playful and funny, singing and dancing (read Library scene with Ben as an adult). The Prince Albert in a Can and refrigerator jokes are from the book word for word

This is pretty much how I feel as well. I'm not on the bashing of Curry and the mini-series bandwagon. I thought the new film and the mini series were both fun entertaining , and I'd recommend both to the uninitiated .
 
Thinking about seeing it a 4th time, help tip the scales passed 120 mil for the weekend. I feel its a civic duty.
 
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The music has been sticking with me, the scene as a whole was so gorgeously done and the score just enhanced that.

The music is fantastic, some of the best horror movie music I've heard in a long time. The only other recent horror movie score that I found memorable was Sinister, the music in the super 8 films was genuinely bizarre and creepy as hell, it kinda made the film what it was tbh.

But yeah, IT. I'm so thrilled that this movie is doing so well, it's very well deserved. I hope they get part 2 into production pronto.
 
Thinking about seeing it a 4th time, help tip the scales past 120 mil for the weekend. I feel its a civic duty.

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How did everyone feel about them adding a damsel moment for Beverly?

While I loved that IT underestimated her and thus couldn't feed on her, I hated that was what reunited the boys and a true loves kiss being the thing to break ITs spell on her
 
I didn't love the movie. I thought the way they used Pennywise was weak. Not Bill's performance, but how they used stupid camera tricks and CG-humped a lot of his scenes. I thought the script was good in some areas and TERRIBLE in others, namely the interactions between the kids. Ritchie's lines got a lot of laughs in my audience but I thought they were all very try hard, unnatural and cringe worthy. The film doesn't really have many scary scenes to speak of. It's all by the numbers, predictable stuff. They should have gotten a better director for this.

Whenever I see people complaining about the kid's lines, I can't help but think "When was the last time you heard a kid talk?" Because to my experience, this is pretty spot on.
 
How did everyone feel about them adding a damsel moment for Beverly?

While I loved that IT underestimated her and thus couldn't feed on her, I hated that was what reunited the boys and a true loves kiss being the thing to break ITs spell on her


I didn't see it as a damsel moment at all, my interpretation was that IT saw her the strongest of the group, and at that vulnerable moment went after her. Take her out and the rest our easy pickings. She was the first one to stand up to penywise and actually hurt it. Just not a damsel in my opinion. As for the kiss, the princess and the frog was seen in her room, i felt it was perfect tying of letting ben have his moment in that instance.
 
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Yeah the kids talked like I remember kids talking when I was that age. When there were no parents around there was a lot of filthy talk.
 
How did everyone feel about them adding a damsel moment for Beverly?

While I loved that IT underestimated her and thus couldn't feed on her, I hated that was what reunited the boys and a true loves kiss being the thing to break ITs spell on her

I agree , it was so cliche and i just rolled my eyes at that scene
 
How did everyone feel about them adding a damsel moment for Beverly?

While I loved that IT underestimated her and thus couldn't feed on her, I hated that was what reunited the boys and a true loves kiss being the thing to break ITs spell on her

At first, it bugged me. I've been thinking about it, and I'm warming up to it. It has a lot to do with others sexualizing her in the film. Typically, damselling happens to good and pure princess types, especially with the true love's kiss. So, in a way, it was nice to see Beverly treated like that. That's probably the nicest apologetic reading I can come up with right now. It still isn't sitting quite right with me.
 
How did everyone feel about them adding a damsel moment for Beverly?

While I loved that IT underestimated her and thus couldn't feed on her, I hated that was what reunited the boys and a true loves kiss being the thing to break ITs spell on her

I didn't think she was being damsel'd.

I saw it as Pennywise knew she was the strongest among them and was gonna kill/eat her. His message on the wall that Bill finds was just him taunting the other Losers to heighten their fear. Pennywise didn't know she wouldn't be afraid when he got her into the sewer.
 
The film was OK, I guess. The narrative lacked flow, spooky stuff is extremely uninventive. Ugly CGI. I liked the cast of kids, a number of funny moments. I'll probably need to watch it again in the original language to validate it more fairly. Doesn't crack my top 3 of the year.
 
Did anyone notice that when Pennywise was shapeshifting at the end, he briefly seemed to grow two giant spider-like legs? I thought he was actually going to turn into the spider then but he never did. I wonder if they'll leave that to part 2, or if we'll even see it's spider form at all. One of the biggest shocks for me in the book was the reveal that [BLACKOUT]It is actually female, and pregnant[/BLACKOUT]. I wonder if that will be alluded to.
 
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