Stephen King's "IT" remake has found a writer - Part 4

[JtheDreamer]

Yes it was. Easily.

No shot. Definitely a fringe opinion.

 

[The Joker]

Yes shot. And definitely a valid opinion.

Also the only movie adaptions of his books that King has heaped praised on;

What's the best movie ever made from one of your books?
Probably Stand by Me. I thought it was true to the book, and because it had the emotional gradient of the story. It was moving. I think I scared the **** out of Rob Reiner. He showed it to me in the screening room at the Beverly Hills Hotel. I was out there for something else, and he said, "Can I come over and show you this movie?" And you have to remember that the movie was made on a shoestring. It was supposed to be one of those things that opened in six theaters and then maybe disappeared. And instead it went viral. When the movie was over, I hugged him because I was moved to tears, because it was so autobiographical.

But Stand by Me, Shawshank Redemption, Green Mile are all really great ones. Misery is a great film. Delores Claiborne is a really, really good film. Cujo is terrific.

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/stephen-king-the-rolling-stone-interview-20141031

I was. And I thought this was a pretty damn good horror film. Easily one of my favorite King adaptations.

Ditto.

 

[redhawk23]

King also loves the ending of the film version of The Mist. I have to imagine he's at least okay with Pet Semetary considering that he's in it.

 

[Darepool]

I love the Dead Zone myself. Speaking of Cronenberg, he wasn't much a fan of the Shining either.

 

[The Joker]

I have to imagine he's at least okay with Pet Semetary considering that he's in it.

I don't think that is a testament to him liking it. After all he was both in and directed Maximum Overdrive, which even he admits is a pile of crap.

 

[BH/HHH]

Time has not been kind to Pet Cemetary but my god does that Zelda scene still freak me out. That's my one worry about an update of that film. While I could see the whole film been better I fear they'd CGI Zelda and completely take away the creepy factor. Don't get me wrong I thought the CG worked for the most part in IT as it was the tension that was scary in the film. But in Pet Cemetary that Zelda scare was always how she looked and the way her body contorted. Do that in CG and it takes away from what's scary about it.

 

[Roose Bolton]

King wrote the script for the Pet Sematary didn't he?

 

[FunkMiller]

Some grownups do see It. Mr Keane tells Mike about the incident involving the Bradley Gang, where one of the men sees Pennywise sticking out of a car. Mike also interviews a man who saw Pennywise at the Silver Dollar massacre, and a man who hears voices in his sink. And Mike's predessor at the library knows of Pennywise, and of the 27 year cycle. The town of Derry is just in a deep, deep, denial. People won't talk about It, even though most of the town elders are aware of It's existence. The implications are just too disquieting.

IT allows adults to see IT when it wants them to. Mike's father at The Black Spot for instance. When adults can't see what IT does to the kids, it's deliberate. Cut children off from those in positions of power who can help them, and you increase their fear, and salt the meat even more.

IT essentially is the city of Derry, and exhibits control over its inhabitants a great deal throughout the story.

 

[FunkMiller]

I don't think that is a testament to him liking it. After all he was both in and directed Maximum Overdrive, which even he admits is a pile of crap.

King has exhibited massively poor judgement decisions when it comes to movie adaptations.

See The Dark Tower as the most recent evidence of this.

Frankly, I'm glad he didn't have much to do with IT.

The man's a great novelist, but when it comes to movies and scripts, M O O N spells incompetent.

 

[BH/HHH]

King has exhibited massively poor judgement decisions when it comes to movie adaptations.

See The Dark Tower as the most recent evidence of this.

Frankly, I'm glad he didn't have much to do with IT.

The man's a great novelist, but when it comes to movies and scripts, M O O N spells incompetent.

He did knock Creepshow out of the park though.

 

[FunkMiller]

He did knock Creepshow out of the park though.

I'd say that was more Romero than King on that one.

 

[BH/HHH]

I'd say that was more Romero than King on that one.

Maybe but King is credited as writing the screenplay and Romero backed that up on the documentary.

 

[Drizzle]

King has exhibited massively poor judgement decisions when it comes to movie adaptations.

See The Dark Tower as the most recent evidence of this.

Frankly, I'm glad he didn't have much to do with IT.

The man's a great novelist, but when it comes to movies and scripts, M O O N spells incompetent.

King didn't have much to do with the Dark Tower adaptation at all. In fact, he barely spoke of it on Twitter while he had nothing but praise for It.

 

[fionabinona]

sorry if this has been discussed or if im in the wrong thread etc. Man i miss imd message b oards but what can u do
Few questions first was bev talking about the kiss with bill in the playwhen she said she had only been kissed by one guy?
Did Bev know then after he said hedidnt know poetry that it was ben who sent card?
When did eddie realise there was nothing wrong with him and meds were placebos?

Thanks

 

[Blitzkrieg]

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IT grossed an estimated $7.22M on Thursday. 7-Day total stands at $158.72M.

 

[The Guard]

Sorry, what's the proposal? That's pretty cool.

I believe the mother

Spoiler

willingly sacrifices one of her children to It to save the others

 

[Art Vandelay]

Yep, that's it. I suppose they could still film that for the sequel, but it would have made the scene in the sewers as a call back to this scene. And the way the mother's is described as going through a series of emotions, finally ending on her ignoring what was happening, is kind of a perfect distillation of what It is all about

 

[danoyse]

Some grownups do see It. Mr Keane tells Mike about the incident involving the Bradley Gang, where one of the men sees Pennywise sticking out of a car. Mike also interviews a man who saw Pennywise at the Silver Dollar massacre, and a man who hears voices in his sink. And Mike's predessor at the library knows of Pennywise, and of the 27 year cycle. The town of Derry is just in a deep, deep, denial. People won't talk about It, even though most of the town elders are aware of It's existence. The implications are just too disquieting.

And the present-day cycle starts...

Spoiler

...with Pennywise killing an adult. With two other adults who tell the cops they saw a clown. The the connection with the past murder spree was that the cop who pulled Adrian Mellon's body out of the canal was the son of the man who pulled Georgie's body out of the sewer in 1957 and carried him back to his house.

There were also other kids who didn't see Pennywise...Ben was the only one who saw that balloon floating through the library, and there were other kids there when it did.

King also loves the ending of the film version of The Mist. I have to imagine he's at least okay with Pet Semetary considering that he's in it.

I've read he has issues with some of the performances, but otherwise he's OK with it. They filmed it about 30 minutes from his house in Maine. I read he used to visit the set, drink cans of Jolt, and read out loud from the obituaries when he was there.

I saw Pet Sematary on opening weekend...it was sold out, and the whole place cheered at King's cameo. It was pretty funny.

 

[BH/HHH]

I believe the mother

Spoiler

willingly sacrifices one of her children to It to save the others

If Pennywise asked me for my son I would **** that clown up lol.

Interestingly that reminds me of Storm of the Century. Was it in the book or just for the screenplay?

 

[FunkMiller]

King didn't have much to do with the Dark Tower adaptation at all. In fact, he barely spoke of it on Twitter while he had nothing but praise for It.

Not true. He had the final say over the script, tweeted about it quite a lot (including that infamous last time around gif), and said how good he thought it was, telling us how Arcel had not forgotten the face of his father. King promoted DT a lot more than IT.

 

[Brother Jack]

Yep, that's it. I suppose they could still film that for the sequel, but it would have made the scene in the sewers as a call back to this scene. And the way the mother's is described as going through a series of emotions, finally ending on her ignoring what was happening, is kind of a perfect distillation of what It is all about

I hope that scene makes it into the sequel. There was an established sense in this film that Derry itself is "cursed" in some way, but a scene like that would really demonstrate the full extent to which the town is under It's influence and would feed into the ending with [BLACKOUT]Derry and It's simultaneous destruction[/BLACKOUT]. Assuming they do that in part two.

 

[redhawk23]

It has come out now that they did indeed at one point co template having g Pennywise turn into Freddy. I did t hate the idea as Pennywise does turn intoovie monsters but at the same time, this films Pennywise was already very similar to Freddy and reinforcing that might have been a bridge too far.

 

[JtheDreamer]

Yes shot. And definitely a valid opinion.

Also the only movie adaptions of his books that King has heaped praised on;



http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/stephen-king-the-rolling-stone-interview-20141031



Ditto.

Valid or not - it's still a fringe opinion.

Not sure why I should care which movie Steven King thinks was the best adaptation. You'll have to excuse my skepticism of the timing since it's currently in theaters.

 

[Art Vandelay]

If Pennywise asked me for my son I would **** that clown up lol.

Interestingly that reminds me of Storm of the Century. Was it in the book or just for the screenplay?

It was in the shooting script. Here it is, copy and pasted from another forum

Spoiler

INT. DERRY PUBLIC LIBRARY - READING ROOM - DAY

Ben looks up at a PAINTING of the First Derry Settlement. At first it appears like the Fur Trappers are on the hunt, lying in the prone position. But closer inspection reveals —

They’re dead. Because Whatever they were hunting found them instead. And as we PUSH IN on that WELLHOUSE we CUT TO:

TITLE CARD over the PENOBSCOT RIVER:

AUGUST

Tilt down to the OVERHEAD shot of what we expect to be “Derry 1989”, but instead we see NOTHING, just the intersection of a stream and river and the surrounding wilderness, towering black pines as far as the eye can see.

This is Derry in —

1637

INT. WELLHOUSE - NIGHT

ABIGAIL, 19. Rushes in and SLAMS the door. As if trying to keep Satan himself out. She clutches her BABY to her breast.

Kneels by DYING EMBERS in the hearth. She blows on ‘em but a flame never catches. Her Baby starts to fuss…

ABIGAIL
Hush now, shhhh… it’ll be —

She stops.

Realizes that the SMALL CANDLE CHANDELIER slowly spins above her. As if some unnatural force has caused its light to rotate around the room, like tiny primitive searchlights.

She hears something slithering in the gray shadows by the Well. Occasionally we catch glimpses of a BLACK SILHOUETTE.

Shifting its shape. As if trying to decide on a form.

ABIGAIL
Please, Devil… leave us be…

Shape shifts again.

A beam of light passes, revealing PENNYWISE, naked, lithe, flesh pale and translucent, a half-formed imitation of a human, opens his maw full of large razor sharp teeth, dripping saliva.

As the Tin Can spins clockwise, Pennywise moves counter around the room. Each time the light hits his face —

It’s different.

A Man. A Woman. A Beast. A Monster. Tim Curry.

PENNYWISE
You mistake me woman. No mere
devil, I am the Easter of Worlds.

His voice is guttural, unnatural.

ABIGAIL
But my child, not my chid… He is
innocent.

PENNYWISE
So you say.

The Baby SCREAMS. Pennywise smiles.

ABIGAIL
I pray Thee, take me.

Abigail shuffles back.

PENNYWISE
I will. And then, him. And thy
husband and the rest of thy
children, and all the savages who
brought you here. And when you all
rot in the earth, I will pick thy
bones dry until no meat is left to
pick. And then I will seek out thy
bones and consume thy souls until
nothing is left but the weeds!
(beat)
Or you will occupy yourself
otherwise and not interfere. I will
take her and you will live, and
those of thy other children — in
whom I take no interest. And you
will thank ME fever and frost did
not damn you to the soil.

Abigail looks down at her baby again. She’s shaking, doesn’t want to let go. Behind her, the door OPENS.

A Little Boy, 6, asks —

BOY
Mama?

ABIGAIL
NO! OUT! NOW!

Frightened by his mother, the Boy runs.

Abigail turns back to Pennywise. Wherever he may be now in the room. The light somehow seems to spin faster now.

She kisses her baby and sets it down. It BAWLS.

ABIGAIL
I’m sorry, I’m so sorry…

She turns away from the baby. Faces those dying embers. We keep on her face as they seem to begin GLOWING BRIGHTER AS —

OVER HER SHOULDER — OUT OF FOCUS —

Pennywise crawls over to the Baby and starts to feast. SHARP CRY FROM THE BABY CUT OFF as we hear a CRUNCH.

Abigail continuing to look into the BRIGHT ORANGE GLOW of not the flickering fire…

…but the DEADLIGHTS.

Her expression changes. Fear. Denial. Grief. Acceptance. And then nothing. Just a glazed look.

AS IF NOTHING HORRIFIC IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING BEHIND HER.

 

[The Joker]

Valid or not - it's still a fringe opinion.

To you.

Not sure why I should care which movie Steven King thinks was the best adaptation. You'll have to excuse my skepticism of the timing since it's currently in theaters.

Nobody is asking you to care. That wasn't even aimed at you. That was in response to this post; http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=35701237&postcount=275

But out of interest was he singing the praises of The Dark Tower when it came out recently? Saying his fans will love it and likely see it several times etc?