Suicide Squad box office prediction - Part 2

[Blitzkrieg]

If Scott Mendelson is in charge he'd grant you wish right now.

He did say SS is a big hit for WB and that makes me very happy. t:t:

 

[Predator jp]

I don't think they can shaft Katana anyway because imagine how the Japanese audience would perceive the move, and international perception.

don't worry, we don't care if they remove Katana or not for the chinese release.

 

[Greenlite]

don't worry, we don't care if they remove Katana or not for the chinese release.

ha good good

 

[Micromind]

I dunno, They don't need to remove Katanna, just make her mask look less like Japanese flag, they could just use CGI to make it all white (or Black.)

Just a suggestion, not that WB actually need to go this far.

In Beware The Batman animated series -

 

[Erzengel]

Now before we start arguing about 'A' list and 'B' list heroes, it can be safely argued Iron Man was 'A' list by the time Iron Man 2 rolled around (although, to be frank, I've always considered him 'A' list...he's a freakin' original Avenger) and The Hulk was already 'A' list (he had a successful TV show for Christ's sake). But to be fair...let's add another Marvel movie...Thor (also an original Avenger).

So after Iron Man had one movie, as of Iron Man 2, he was an A-Lister.

The same as Superman who previously had before MOS, 5 theatrical releases, like 4 live action tv series and a few cartoons. And Batman, who's had 7 theatrical releases prior to MOS, 2 live action tv series and more cartoons than Superman.

Hulk is the only one in probably the most recognizable before Iron Man because of a show that was in the late 70s and one theatrical release movie.

However, I'd put Wonder Woman higher than the Hulk in terms of pop culture even without a movie.

 

[Bats123]

btw Iron Man and TIH didnt have IMAX and 3D releases, so obviously the DCEU has an edge with that.

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

Estimated 3.6 m for Thursday (according to nilephelan from box office theory).

 

[Blitzkrieg]

I predict a 3.55 million 2nd Thursday.

Edit: Didn't see the post above, pretty close.

 

[JKKS085]

Estimated 3.6 m for Thursday (according to nilephelan from box office theory).

So week end looking like 5.9/7.9/5.7 for a 19.5M total, down 55.1% from last week end ?

 

[Iceman]

Ah bit less than I expected.

 

[Ozbridge]

Anyone know theater count for this Fri-Thu? Will SS TC increase for Labour Day weekend?

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Ah bit less than I expected.

I think the 2nd Thursday gross is okay with a 12.2% reduction from Wednesday. To put things into perspective GOTG had a drop of 12.8% at the same juncture but it had a much better tally of 4.2 million.

 

[Kathemy]

SS $3.57m

 

[Erzengel]

Anyone know theater count for this Fri-Thu? Will SS TC increase for Labour Day weekend?

It'll be in it's 5th weekend. It'll have no reason to go up. It's not like it's Oscar time.

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

http://deadline.com/2016/08/ben-hur...-sausage-party-weekend-box-office-1201805947/

"As three wide entries enter the fray — Paramount/MGM’s Ben-Hur, Warner Bros.’ Todd Phillips action comedy War Dogs and Focus Features/Laika’s Kubo and the Two Strings, Warner’s Suicide Squad and Sony/Annapurna’s Sausage Party are expected to rule supreme in the top two spots with respectively $20M and $18.8M. Last night both titles were at each other’s throats with Suicide Squad having a slight upper hand with $3.57M ($241.6M two-week cume) and Sausage Party taking $3M (First week’s haul: $50M)."

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

According to Box office mojo
Another weekend at the top for SS
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4216&p=.htm

Suicide Squad (3,924 theaters) - $22 M
Sausage Party (3,103 theaters) - $17.8 M
Kubo and the Two Strings (3,260 theaters) - $17.2 M
War Dogs (3,258 theaters) - $13.5 M
Pete's Dragon (3,702 theaters) - $13 M
Ben-Hur (3,084 theaters) - $12 M
Bad Moms (2,811 theaters) - $7.8 M
Jason Bourne (2,880 theaters) - $7.75 M
The Secret Life of Pets (2,397 theaters) - $6 M
Florence Foster Jenkins (1,528 theaters) - $3.9 M

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Anyone know theater count for this Fri-Thu? Will SS TC increase for Labour Day weekend?

Mojo tracks theater counts.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/counts/

SS losing 331 this weekend, so not much of a drop.

 

[idiot09]

$22mil weekend (50% drop)would be great for Suicide Squad.

 

[Wildcard]

(sigh)Ok, here you go...

MARVEL

Domestic Gross (adjusted)
Iron Man - $384,034,200
The Incredible Hulk - $162,594,400
Iron Man 2 - $340,336,200

Total - $886,964,800

Worldwide Gross (adjusted)
Iron Man - $706,305,286 (est.)
The Incredible Hulk - $317,957,054 (est.)
Iron Man 2 - $680,087,331 (est.)

Total - $1,704,349,671 (est.)

Now since I couldn't find actual figures for adjusted worldwide numbers, these are estimated based on a little bit of math (I always rounded up in Marvel's favor). If someone else can provide actual numbers, please do. I have to figure my numbers are not too far off.

DC

Domestic Gross (adjusted)
Man of Steel - $300,770,200
Batman v Superman - $330,360,194 (no adjustment)
Suicide Squad - $238,002,651 (and growing)

Total - $869,133,045

Worldwide Gross (adjusted)
Man of Steel - $688,086,884 (est.)
Batman v Superman - $872,662,631 (no adjustment)
Suicide Squad - $509,000,000 (and growing)

Total - $2,069,749,515

Now before we start arguing about 'A' list and 'B' list heroes, it can be safely argued Iron Man was 'A' list by the time Iron Man 2 rolled around (although, to be frank, I've always considered him 'A' list...he's a freakin' original Avenger) and The Hulk was already 'A' list (he had a successful TV show for Christ's sake). But to be fair...let's add another Marvel movie...Thor (also an original Avenger).

Thor - $449,326,618 (estimated worldwide adjusted)

This gives Marvel a grand total (for 4 movies, mind you) of $2,189,622,418, which means Suicide Squad needs to earn $120,000,000 more (worldwide) for DC to surpass (with 3 movies, mind you).

For all the negative talk DC gets, sorry boys and girls, that's not too shabby.

It'd be just a little more impressive if DC had been more conservative with the budgets like Marvel. I'm not going to trash talk them but they've already spent about $750 million on those three films.

In contrast, Marvel spent around half that for the three films you mentioned.

 

[dragonjo8]

So after Iron Man had one movie, as of Iron Man 2, he was an A-Lister.

The same as Superman who previously had before MOS, 5 theatrical releases, like 4 live action tv series and a few cartoons. And Batman, who's had 7 theatrical releases prior to MOS, 2 live action tv series and more cartoons than Superman.

Hulk is the only one in probably the most recognizable before Iron Man because of a show that was in the late 70s and one theatrical release movie.

However, I'd put Wonder Woman higher than the Hulk in terms of pop culture even without a movie.

Umm... yes, after one movie the popularity of the character became elevated to A-list status. There's no denying this. The notion of A-list is really all about perception (and can thus sometimes be somewhat intangible) by both industry experts and the general audience. Industry experts pay very close attention to the general audience. RDJ was paid $500,000 for Iron Man 1. He was then paid (after just ONE movie) $10,000,000 for Iron Man 2. That's a 20 fold increase. Based on this alone, I don't think anyone could argue the character had not reached A-list status.

My argument was based on A-list status not on how many films a given superhero has, which doesn't necessarily guarantee A-list status. Look at Blade...3 movies (all before the release of Iron Man) and still a B-lister.

 

[Erzengel]

It's not necessarily the amount of movies, my point is how ingrained in popular culture characters like Superman and Batman who been in since the 1940s, Serials, TV Shows, Animated, Movies, etc.

These characters have been in media for like 70 years. That's part of the reason why they probably rank in the top 3 of CB characters. It's that type of pedigree that allows a movie as panned as BvS to do well.

Do you think if Iron Man 1 was a bust, people would be clamoring for a sequel or a reboot? Of course not.

Iron Man for as popular as he's been in the past 8 years thanks to RDJ and the movies, doesn't have the long history of Batman and Superman, therefore it's not an even comparison.

 

[Iceman]

Growing up in the UK I don't think I'd ever heard a mention of Iron Man in any media outside of the comics themselves until the film was announced.

 

[dragonjo8]

It'd be just a little more impressive if DC had been more conservative with the budgets like Marvel. I'm not going to trash talk them but they've already spent about $750 million on those three films.

In contrast, Marvel spent around half that for the three films you mentioned.

Agreed. Look folks, no one is saying Marvel hasn't done a superb job. They clearly have. DC, on the other hand, whether due to their haste in trying to play catch up or just sheer incompetence, have left A LOT on the table. In spite of this, however, I think the numbers clearly show things aren't as bad as the haters would have (want) you to believe.

 

[Tra-El]

The wife actually wants to check it out so we're going tonight. My second time finally.

 

[Erzengel]

Agreed. Look folks, no one is saying Marvel hasn't done a superb job. They clearly have. DC, on the other hand, whether due to their haste in trying to play catch up or just sheer incompetence, have left A LOT on the table. In spite of this, however, I think the numbers clearly show things aren't as bad as the haters would have (want) you to believe.

I would say that WB is making money in spite of themselves actually.