Suicide Squad: General Discussion and Speculation - - - Part 20

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Reactions from reddit (from 2 different posters):

"I saw SS a little while ago. It's significantly better than BvS and X-Men. It's objectively a better movie than Deadpool, but Deadpool was more fun. Civil War was better.
I'm not saying that Civil War is better to be mean to SS, I'm just saying it because I got burned by early reviews saying "BvS IS THE BEST MOVIE OF ALL TIME!!!!!" and would've appreciated honesty, you know?

It's an excellent movie. It tells a very straightforward story with an amazing cast. You will like every single member of the Squad, with Harley (obviously) stealing the show. She's a star and everyone will love her. This is the type of movie that demands a sequel.
I'm sure critics will find ways to hate it (it's basically a gritty action movie with comic book characters and a Hot Topic aesthetic, which honestly might turn critics off), but DC fans will like it. The BIG thing is that the movie literally saves DCEU Batman. This Batman is BTAS personified.

David Ayer understands Batman on a fundamental level I think. It's hard to explain without spoilers, but Batman delivers justice in a sympathetic manner instead of just blowing up criminals. He locks criminals up, but he understands and cares about them at the same time.

Eh, there were 2 characters I didn't like. Felt nothing towards them and when they had that so called emotional scene at the end, nothing. The villain was a big disappointment considering how fresh the idea I thought it was. I still thought it was a very good movie.

The villain definitely didn't work. But nobody will be seeing the movie for the villain anyway, haha

The flashbacks sort of set the table for the rest of the movie. The movie would fall apart without them.

SS's saving grace is that it won't be polarizing. It's a crowd pleaser. I'm just not sure if the critics will get over their grudge against BvS so soon. SS is very much a sequel to BvS (not a spoiler, it was in the latest trailer) and unfortunately critics might take their hatred for BvS out on SS.

SS was very fun. Surprisingly fun. The characters laugh and smile throughout the entire movie, and there's no depressing moral dilemmas like the ones Superman faces (there's one exception, but it's spoilery and not significant to this conversation). I had a smile on my face when the credits rolled and people cheered afterwards.
Buuuuut the movie is still unapologetically dour and gritty. This is the post-Superman and pre-Justice League period where the world is dark and uncertain. It's the entire premise of Task Force X forming (this was in previous trailers).

Maybe a 7.5. Keep in mind I'm not one of those people who rate all movies 9's and 10. This is an unfinished cut. There was lots that I really liked, good action, pacing (for the most part). But as I've said there were 2 characters who had a decent sized role in the plot/story that did not connect with me. I could care less about them. They tried for an emotional scene and yea...didn't work. But yes, walking out, I've heard a few people raving about it, and a few just good/pretty good. The person I was sitting next to came with his family and he didn't even know the movie after they announced it (older guy) and he said it was ok. I didn't stick around to hear if anyone had anything bad to say."
 
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It gets on my nerves how people keep repeating this crap how Ayer or (whoever else comes to direct future DCEU films) saved Batman. Batman was saved in Batman v Superman.
Buuuuut the movie is still unapologetically dour and gritty. This is the post-Superman and pre-Justice League period where the world is dark and uncertain. It's the entire premise of Task Force X forming (this was in previous trailers)."
I expected this, thanks for the confirmation. Glad it stayed that way. As for it being worse than Civil War - it's a compliment in my eyes. Plenty of stuff in CW was "too good".
 
It gets on my nerves how people keep repeating this crap how Ayer or (whoever else comes to direct future DCEU films) saved Batman. Batman was saved in Batman v Superman.

I think it's because we never saw Batman back in his "prime" so to speak after the events of Batman v Superman. Now we get to see the continuation.
 
I think it's because we never saw Batman back in his "prime" so to speak after the events of Batman v Superman. Now we get to see the continuation.
Good thing it feels like a continuation of the story of Batman v Superman. Well, I suppose, it's related to Batman's arc and overall world setup after the death of Superman.
 
Good thing it feels like a continuation of the story of Batman v Superman. Well, I suppose, it's related to Batman's arc and overall world setup after the death of Superman.

Yeah I just hope people realize this and don't just instantly think, "oh see, this is how Batman should've been Snyder you hack!"
 
The depressing moral dilemmas were what made BvS fun. I wonder if this means Incubus is indeed infernal rather than extraterrestrial?
 
Reactions from reddit (from 2 different posters):

"I saw SS a little while ago. It's significantly better than BvS and X-Men. It's objectively a better movie than Deadpool, but Deadpool was more fun. Civil War was better.
I'm not saying that Civil War is better to be mean to SS, I'm just saying it because I got burned by early reviews saying "BvS IS THE BEST MOVIE OF ALL TIME!!!!!" and would've appreciated honesty, you know?

It's an excellent movie. It tells a very straightforward story with an amazing cast. You will like every single member of the Squad, with Harley (obviously) stealing the show. She's a star and everyone will love her. This is the type of movie that demands a sequel.
I'm sure critics will find ways to hate it (it's basically a gritty action movie with comic book characters and a Hot Topic aesthetic, which honestly might turn critics off), but DC fans will like it. The BIG thing is that the movie literally saves DCEU Batman. This Batman is BTAS personified.

David Ayer understands Batman on a fundamental level I think. It's hard to explain without spoilers, but Batman delivers justice in a sympathetic manner instead of just blowing up criminals. He locks criminals up, but he understands and cares about them at the same time.

Eh, there were 2 characters I didn't like. Felt nothing towards them and when they had that so called emotional scene at the end, nothing. The villain was a big disappointment considering how fresh the idea I thought it was. I still thought it was a very good movie.

The villain definitely didn't work. But nobody will be seeing the movie for the villain anyway, haha

The flashbacks sort of set the table for the rest of the movie. The movie would fall apart without them.

SS's saving grace is that it won't be polarizing. It's a crowd pleaser. I'm just not sure if the critics will get over their grudge against BvS so soon. SS is very much a sequel to BvS (not a spoiler, it was in the latest trailer) and unfortunately critics might take their hatred for BvS out on SS.

SS was very fun. Surprisingly fun. The characters laugh and smile throughout the entire movie, and there's no depressing moral dilemmas like the ones Superman faces (there's one exception, but it's spoilery and not significant to this conversation). I had a smile on my face when the credits rolled and people cheered afterwards.
Buuuuut the movie is still unapologetically dour and gritty. This is the post-Superman and pre-Justice League period where the world is dark and uncertain. It's the entire premise of Task Force X forming (this was in previous trailers)."

Curious as to who the two characters are.
 
I like how Ayer sounds so geeky when he talks about Batman on set. Well, I feel the same about Batfleck. Best Batman ever.
 
The thing is some people understand what Snyder was doing. They just don't appreciate it.
 
The depressing moral dilemmas were what made BvS fun. I wonder if this means Incubus is indeed infernal rather than extraterrestrial?

There is already a enchanted sword that takes the souls of it's victims in the movie. It would be weird for them to make Enchantress and Incubus aliens instead of demonic spirits.
 
Reactions from reddit (from 2 different posters): The BIG thing is that the movie literally saves DCEU Batman. This Batman is BTAS personified.

David Ayer understands Batman on a fundamental level I think. It's hard to explain without spoilers, but Batman delivers justice in a sympathetic manner instead of just blowing up criminals. He locks criminals up, but he understands and cares about them at the same time.

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I like how Ayer sounds so geeky when he talks about Batman on set. Well, I feel the same about Batfleck. Best Batman ever.
He is a perfect visual representation of Wayne. Love him in the role, and I hope we see even more Fleck on top of the JL and solo Batman outings.
 
About Will Smith (again from reddit):

"Will Smith plays dark and edgy Will Smith, which is a flavour I haven't seen from him before. I like it. Harley gets the most screen time, but he's obviously positioned as the main character. One of his scenes kind of fails to resonate though, but the movie would suck without him."
 
About Will Smith (again from reddit):

"Will Smith plays dark and edgy Will Smith, which is a flavour I haven't seen from him before. I like it. Harley gets the most screen time, but he's obviously positioned as the main character. One of his scenes kind of fails to resonate though, but the movie would suck without him."

I hope they aren't talking about his scene with Batman. I want that to be as perfect as it supposedly is.
 
I'm not hearing too much about Joker, it seems.
 
He is a perfect visual representation of Wayne. Love him in the role, and I hope we see even more Fleck on top of the JL and solo Batman outings.
Amen, brother. I need 7 movies with Batfleck, at least.
 
It tells a very straightforward story with an amazing cast. You will like every single member of the Squad, with Harley (obviously) stealing the show. She's a star and everyone will love her. This is the type of movie that demands a sequel.
:awesome:

The BIG thing is that the movie literally saves DCEU Batman. This Batman is BTAS personified.
David Ayer understands Batman on a fundamental level I think. It's hard to explain without spoilers, but Batman delivers justice in a sympathetic manner instead of just blowing up criminals. He locks criminals up, but he understands and cares about them at the same time.
:awesome: :awesome:

Eh, there were 2 characters I didn't like. Felt nothing towards them and when they had that so called emotional scene at the end, nothing.
I wonder who they are. My guesses are Katana (but hopefully not), and either Rick Flag or Boomerang. Or maybe Diablo?

The villain was a big disappointment considering how fresh the idea I thought it was.
WB following the MS formula, eh, why not. It's worked for the latter so far. :o

I'm just not sure if the critics will get over their grudge against BvS so soon.
Just give them a competently put-together movie and most critics won't even remember what BvS was.
 
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These reactions made me think that SS will get similar RT treatment as BvS, X-Men:Apoc, Warcraft, etc.

I already knew a long time ago that Ayer's SS will be more than competent film and be at least interesting to me than most of the other cbm films currently, including Deadpool which I don't care for at all.
 
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