Suicide Squad: General Discussion and Speculation - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 30

[DarthSkywalker]

Weird to hear that Leto was disappointing. I enjoyed what little we saw of his performance in the trailers; take away those dreadful tattoos and clothes and it's nearly the exact Joker I wanted to see.

Still hoping Batman punches those tattoos right off.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

Shouldn't Joker be a LITTLE hammy though?

I think so, but Ledger's dark anarchist is the freshest on people's minds and one of the best performances in cinematic history. So I can understand why some folks might have trouble acclimating to Leto's gangster showman.

 

[Flint Marko]

I wasn't a fan of the tattoos in the pics or trailers, especially that dreaded "damaged" one, but for some reason in the context of the movie, I feel like it fit really really well. I'd go so far now as to say I even liked them.

I'll give him a chance, but it's a bummer hearing how much of his material was cut out.
I'm hoping that when I do finally see it I'll be able to just sit back and be entertained. That's all it would take for me to give it a pass at this point.

 

[WitchTrialz]

Are you sure you weren't in my same row, bro? Haha. Same here. An entire row of teenage girls who giggled and cackled at every chance they got. I know one thing, this is going to be a major hit within' that age bracket. Tons of teens in my showing and the entire row behind me yelped at the ending. It's going to test well with them.

I refuse to go to another late showing pg-13 movie. The teenagers drive me up the wall.

Oh my god It's finally happened, I'm a boring adult!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I am seeing the movie in two hours. I changed my screening to an earlier time. Buckle up, folks. My thoughts will be with you later today.

Have fun AnneFan.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I refuse to go to another late showing pg-13 movie. The teenagers drive me up the wall.

Oh my god It's finally happened, I'm a boring adult!

We are all getting old when we start talking about those darn teenagers.

I am right there with you all.

 

[Broseph44]

I am seeing the movie in two hours. I changed my screening to an earlier time. Buckle up, folks. My thoughts will be with you later today.

Have fun hope you enjoy it

 

[Smilodon]

Oh yeah I forgot El Diablo. He was another one of my favorites.


About the joker, I actually think Leto was great , the material was awful. If he had been given another story he would have killed it. The Joker was the biggest disappointment for me
I was actually ashamed for telling people for months "I bet Jared is gonna be great! "

Yeah, the material let both Jared and Margot down. Not the other way around. They did the best they could. Thankfully it wasn't the actors fault, there's a lot of potential for both of them in the future. But Harley's arc was clearly mangled in the film.

 

[Aquafinn90]

I'll give him a chance, but it's a bummer hearing how much of his material was cut out.
I'm hoping that when I do finally see it I'll be able to just sit back and be entertained. That's all it would take for me to give it a pass at this point.

I also really liked that he wasn't the main villain. His storyline would've been fine if they didn't cut so much- He should've had more of a presence for sure. As in just causing a lot more chaos than he ended up causing. But performance wise I thought he was absolutely fantastic.

 

[Flint Marko]

Overall I think the vibe around here is considerably more pleasant than it was when BvS opened, meaning that more are pleased with the final film. Maybe I'm mis-reading things but that's encouraging.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Mark Hamill plays my favorite Joker. There is good hammy and there is bad hammy.

 

[Seahawksfan]

Oh, what was he up to? A big talker, kicking the seat, etc?

At least you enjoyed it in spite of the annoying teen.

I feel bad saying it but I think the poor kid had tourette's syndrome. Repeatedly made commentary during the movie, was very audible about everything.

 

[Mysteryman]

Just got out of the film, and had some time to digest the movie during my drive home. Overall - 7/10 (I should also preface that I had quite possibly the most annoying teenager in the world right behind my wife and I... my gawd was he awfully annoying). I didn't love it, but I enjoyed it. The movie wasn't a masterpiece, and anyone going into the movie shouldn't be expecting to see the second coming of Citizen's Kane.

Having said that, the movie was a solid summer action comedy. My theater absolutely ate it up. They laughed at all the jokes, a few ooo's and ahh's when they saw the joker for the first time, people gave the movie an applause once it ended, etc.

PROS
- Will Smith was a complete badass as Deadshot. This was Will Smith at his finest. His jokes were on point, and his character's motivations were clear throughout the movie.
- Harley Quinn was awesome. What a great job! I honestly think she was born to play HQ.
- Cool fight scenes
- Fun DC cameos/worldbuilding
- Great soundtrack

CONS
- Villain was truly awful. Still not as bad as Malekith, the Mandarin, or Ronan.
- Final act was kind of lame, and felt like something I watched at the end of one of my childhood 90's movies.
- Still not sure what my final verdict is on the Joker

Like I said, 7/10. It was entertaining as hell. Still can't believe how it's being savaged by critics... unbelievable.

Sorry to hear that.
Nothing more annoying than someone who won't let you enjoy the movie.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

Mark Hamill plays my favorite Joker. There is good hammy and there is bad hammy.

Was it too over the top? Not subtle enough?

 

[Tra-El]

I went into this kind of annoyed of the studio pulling out Leto's parts, but in the context of this film, it actually worked for me to my surprise. I think the timing of his scenes were great and the thought of him being more of a background character in the entire film made his presence even more creepy to me that made me more excited to see a full length feature one day of his Joker. What I loved about it is that this was HARLEY'S time and Ayer proved that point quite early. This film could afford that since I couldn't stop smiling from ear to ear once Margot was on screen. She was a delight in the role.

Also, Will Smith's Deadshot was phenomenal and Smith brought what was neccasary for the DCEU to strive. It was HIS Deadshot that made me excited for a potential showdown with Batfleck, NOT the same 'ol; same 'ol Joker setup. Again, a refreshing realization in the movie. Batflecks scene with Deadshot was like licking icing out of the container. So good.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Mark Hamill plays my favorite Joker. There is good hammy and there is bad hammy.

Troy Baker's Hamill impression is scary good.

 

[Aquafinn90]

Overall I think the vibe around here is considerably more pleasant than it was when BvS opened, meaning that more are pleased with the final film. Maybe I'm mis-reading things but that's encouraging.

I think its more pleasing to the fans specifically than BVS because it stays true to the characters that everyone loves. But on a movie making level, total mess. Which is SUCH a shame because I could literally SEE it all right there in front of me. Which makes it all the more frustrating.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Was it too over the top? Not subtle enough?

It's hard to explain. The best I say is that it felt like an actor trying to play the Joker instead of being the Joker.

 

[WitchTrialz]

Mark Hamill plays my favorite Joker. There is good hammy and there is bad hammy.

It was a little depressing hearing him in Killing Joke, don't get me wrong he nailed it as always but he's just sounding older and tired.

We really do need a live action Hamill sound alike

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Troy Baker's Hamill impression is scary good.

I haven't heard it.

 

[The Joker]

Troy Baker's Hamill impression is scary good.

Insanely good impression. Incidentally he was the Joker in Assault on Arkham, a truly great Suicide Squad outing.

 

[Mysteryman]

Mark Hamill plays my favorite Joker. There is good hammy and there is bad hammy.

Hamill is my favorite as well.
He a real understanding of the character.

 

[Wolfgangamadeus]

Give it a shot, in my personal opinion. I feel like I walked into this movie trying to find any reason to hate it, and I left feeling glad that I didn't, even with all its bad editing at times. Its the 2nd best movie in the DCEU, could've topped MOS if it weren't for just a few things.

Leto was really quite bad in my opinion. I can kinda understand why they cut a lot of his scenes.

Alright! I paid for MOS and BvS. Might as well go for this. I don't want to hate it but given my personal history, I tend to agree with Rotten Tomatoes about 97% of the time. Hope this falls in the 3%.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It's hard to explain. They best I say is that it felt like an actor trying to play the Joker instead of being the Joker.

Talking about this a week or two back on here, this is what I am afraid of. Snow mentioned that from the footage he felt like a drama student in high school.

 

[Aquafinn90]

The things I would do to see the two versions that were screened a few months ago...