Supergirl Supergirl General Discussion Thread - - - Part 12

[flickchick85]

So it seems Supergirl is moving to 9pm on Sundays. Batwoman takes 8pm.

The CW Fall 2019-20 Schedule: – Deadline

I swear it’s like they are intentionally trying to kill SG’s ratings. Why the heck wouldn’t they do it the other way around? BW seems more like a 9pm show anyway AND it would have a an established lead-in. I wouldn’t be surprised if SG premieres with a .2 next season in this slot, tbh.

 

[vantheman77]

Though I disagree with Supergirl being at 9pm and it should be the other way around, I'm looking forward to the World's Finest Sundays.

 

[Dark Raven]

I hope they come to their senses and switch them round later on. Imagine if no-one watches Batwoman at 8pm because it's too violent for that hour or has to be toned down too much, and no-one watches Supergirl at 9pm because it's too late for them or is opposite something else. They will have shot themselves in the foot twice over.

 

[vantheman77]

I hope the network isn't setting up Supergirl to fail on Sundays at 9pm.

 

[Dark Raven]

I hope the network isn't setting up Supergirl to fail on Sundays at 9pm.

Don't know why they would do that and gamble on something like Batwoman which is new and untested, and has a poor actress in it as well.

 

[SSAV]

Don't know why they would do that and gamble on something like Batwoman which is new and untested, and has a poor actress in it as well.

Networks usually move around shows that they think would remains stable in other timeslots. I think SG is still one of their best shows, so they are unlikely to want to cause it trouble. It is more likely that they think Bat Woman has a better chance at 8pm slot. I don't know why though. Aren't Bats dark?

Likely, they think that people who love SG will tune in earlier and might give Bat Woman a chance. Especially folks who are used to tuning in to TV at 8.pm Sunday.

I don't think you are likely to get more LGBT folks to SG just because of Bat Woman and Ruby Rose (and gay folks aren't actually that huge in number to make a difference, are they?). It might be likely the other way around. Bat show may get SG fans.

 

[Dark Raven]

Maybe they're reasoning that Supergirl will be a palate cleanser before bedtime after subjecting viewers to Ruby Rose's acting. It's like they're saying "Now here's some real acting with Melissa".

 

[Dr.]

I guess a strong “lead in” show is still a recognized thing in the TV biz. I.e., some of the audience for a popular series will stick around to see what comes on right after (because… people don’t know how the channel button on their remote works…?) In any case, perhaps the thinking is that Batwoman - with its novelty factor and “bat brand” - will be stronger than Supergirl. And that Supergirl will benefit from the carryover audience.

Also: it seems it’s very hard for a CW show to get cancelled. For example, Charmed - the current occupant of the Sunday 9pm timeslot - garnered fairly anemic ratings. But it got renewed. So Supergirl is probably safe no matter what.

 

[Kelly]

Supergirl will continue as long as Melissa wants to wear the suit.....which means at this point, at least 7 seasons.

 

[Web-Head]

Supergirl will continue as long as Melissa wants to wear the suit.....which means at this point, at least 7 seasons.

is that how long her contract is? I thought it was only 6

 

[flickchick85]

Usually with the Arrowverse it's for 7. Hers might be different since it started at CBS, I dunno.

 

[Brierrose]

Seven years is an industry standard initial lead contract. After that the length of time may vary.

 

[flickchick85]

Happy real Earth Birthday to Supergirl! According to original comics canon, she arrived on Earth 60 years ago today (Action Comics #252, where she made her official debut, was also published May 1959) .

 

[Web-Head]

Usually with the Arrowverse it's for 7. Hers might be different since it started at CBS, I dunno.

Gotcha, thanks.

 

[vantheman77]

I can see Supergirl lasting between 6 or 7 seasons since the show originally came from CBS. I wonder if the show's leads are paid from CBS and not CW.

 

[SSAV]

Oh wow! It appears that Chyler spoke against the twitter harassment against the cast in the Ultimate comiccon (somebody asked a question); and spoke highly of Melissa (as usual). And, in twitter, Nicole joined in to say the online harassment has been a problem for the cast, and said it is not about just the fandoms. But, they also said they were taking a positive approach to it and are trying to promote kindness.

Apparently, the cast as a whole has had enough?

I am glad they stand up for eachother like this.

 

[Dark Raven]

Oh wow! It appears that Chyler spoke against the twitter harassment against the cast in the Ultimate comiccon (somebody asked a question); and spoke highly of Melissa (as usual). And, in twitter, Nicole joined in to say the online harassment has been a problem for the cast, and said it is not about just the fandoms. But, they also said they were taking a positive approach to it and are trying to promote kindness.

Apparently, the cast as a whole has had enough?

I am glad they stand up for eachother like this.

What Twitter harassment was there? What was said and about who?

 

[flickchick85]

I've seen some horrid rude stuff posted about Chris Wood, Mehcad and Katie due to the stupid shipper wars, so I'm guessing that's what she's generally referring to.

 

[Dark Raven]

I've seen some horrid rude stuff posted about Chris Wood, Mehcad and Katie due to the stupid shipper wars, so I'm guessing that's what she's generally referring to.

Chris Wood doesn't even play in Supergirl anymore, so why are fans still bothering him or annoyed by his presence?

 

[flickchick85]

Chris Wood doesn't even play in Supergirl anymore, so why are fans still bothering him or annoyed by his presence?

His stuff was back when he was on the show. I was just speaking generally.

 

[SSAV]

What Twitter harassment was there? What was said and about who?

She doesn't really specify people or call out anyone in particular. But, from reading the transcript (recording is not allowed in Starfury Conventions, I understand), it seems to be pretty current.



She was responding to a question from someone. I am not entirely sure what the question was except that it referred to her withdrawing from social media: which basically her and Melissa at least have done. (With Chyler, it was gradual, I think. She stopped adding show-related posts in S3 and after that, these days, there are barely any tweets from her at all.)

She also spoke a lot about Melissa. Some of it:


The one thing I got from second hand comments is that the cast is really tight knit and are protective of eachother; giving them negative reviews and harassing them only causes them to shut down: even if it is some of them, all of them disapprove of it (as in, they stand up for each other). And, they are working really hard and are trying their best.

And, they are still getting harassed (I believe some of it is the Sanvers/Supercorp crowd but not all) and hence are closing themselves off more and more.

 

[Sithborg]

This was a political season. So you KNOW where a lot of the harassment came from.

 

[flickchick85]

Seems to have been a pretty well-received season with critics...

Supergirl: Season 4 Review - IGN

Supergirl's fourth season is undoubtedly the strongest to date, thanks in large part to the concerted effort to make up for the lack of compelling, nuanced villains in year's past.

https://tv.avclub.com/supergirl-wraps-up-its-stellar-fourth-season-by-battlin-1834877277

For now it’s worth celebrating just how strong Supergirl’s fourth season has been. I’ve still got quite a lot of fondness for the show’s first season, but this has definitely been the strongest season of The CW era. Even more importantly, it’s introduced a ton of great elements the show can carry on into the future. Brainy and Nia have been absolutely fantastic additions, and I can’t wait to see more from them. J’onn never became the Martian P.I. that I thought he would this season, but that’s still on the table for next season. And it feels like season four finally found the right balance in highlighting the heroism of both sides of Kara’s double life.

'Supergirl' recap: Weird Lex, but okay

All in all, this was an excellent season of superhero television. Supergirl is always adept at elevating emotional truths in scenes where logical concerns might otherwise rear their ugly head. Frankly, that’s why I love it. Good people, fighting for admirable values, and talking up journalism while they do it? Sign me up for that every Sunday.

Supergirl season 4 graduated from guilty pleasure to great TV

It’s hard not to feel a sense of pride while watching a show grow from guilty pleasure to legitimately good television.That’s the experience most probably had watching Supergirl’s stellar fourth season, which ended on a high note last Sunday. No offense to the more high-profile finale that aired the same night, but Supergirl stuck its landing with much more grace and heart than HBO’s juggernaut proved capable of doing during its home stretch. It was obvious that Supergirl had taken a huge leap in quality during its fourth season, mostly due to a well-executed cast reshuffling and the presence of some interesting villains for once. The only question was whether it could keep up that momentum for an entire season and not crater under the weight of the lofty expectations it had created for itself. Thankfully, the show was able to sustain its excellence and gave us a finale worthy of the smart choices that brought us to that point. Now that it has proven it can maintain that standard for an entire season, it feels wrong to refer to Supergirl as a guilty pleasure. Until otherwise proven, the show can officially be considered unironically good TV.

Supergirl Season 4 Ending Shows The Fall of Lex Luthor (& Beginning Of Crisis)

The season 4 finale of Supergirl, "The Quest For Peace," masterfully resolved all of its outstanding storylines.

Supergirl Season 4 Finale: 9 Ups & 2 Downs From 'The Quest For Peace'

All in all, 'The Quest For Peace' was an exceptional conclusion to a very well-structured season, reinforcing the strength of its lead while leaving us with some jaw-dropping cliffhangers. Like Supergirl herself, it was a triumph on (almost) all counts.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/supergirls-finale-suggests-there-will-be-a-very-promine-1834895407

if you happened to tune into the CW the hour before Game of Thrones, you got a sincerely good conclusion to a season that ended up being one of the most entertaining seasons of supershows the CW has done.

This one didn't like the finale, but did like the season overall:

Despite having its most solid season yet, Supergirl failed to stick the landing. A lot happened in “The Quest for Peace”, which ultimately ended up being its downfall. With the season acting as a painful look at current events, it's possible that part of that was intentional.

SUPERGIRL Season Finale Review

 

[Brierrose]

Wonderful post SSAV. Reinforces my impression that the cast considers each other family and is extremely protective of each other. That closeness no doubt facilitates the highly emotional scenes this show is known for. When an actor has go to whatever place they need to find those vulnerable emotions it helps to know their scene partner is going to support them. I remember reading something about Melissa being very protective of Chyler when they filmed the scene where Alex breaks down in Changing.


I don’t think I’ll ever be able to wrap my head around why people think it’s ok to harass and bully others on social media. Some actors do like interacting with fans on social media, but fans need to realize that interaction is a privilege not a right. Actors shouldn’t be expected to tolerate harassment and bullying any more than the rest of us should.


It’s interesting that easing the load on Melissa during the last two seasons came up. Melissa’s screen time and action sequences have been talked about with many pointing to a reduction from the first season. If Chyler felt the need to stand guard so Melissa could get some rest to me that means season one level demands on Melissa were unsustainable long term. Just because a person is able work long and physically demanding hours for a period of time doesn’t make it healthy to do so regularly. A balance must be struck. I don’t know where that balance is but maybe fans might enjoy the show more if they don’t use season one as a barometer.

 

[Kelly]

I totally get that, but IMO there is a way to compromise, and for me IF you are going to give your title character less time, then the time they are on screen must be used well MEANING, they do not step aside and allow the sidekick to do the work...meaning you as the writer makes sure that when they are on screen THEY are the SUPER one. So to me that isnt a workload problem, that is a writing problem...there is not a question on Arrow who is the #1, but on Supergirl and Flash it is questionable. When comparing to Season 1 I believe u need that WOW/Emotional factor in a scene ... like say, the ship scene between Alex and Supergirl in Season 2 at least 4x a season. Or the lifting of the Submarine in Season 3. U dont need one of these every episode, every other episode, but maybe 1 per 6 or so eps. Or an episode where Supergirl starts and finishes the villain every once in awhile as in Mr. and Mrs. Mxy... Not really asking for a Season 1 amount of wow factor....just some wow thrown in every so often. IMO, that isn't asking a whole lot. I hope the new writer understands that there is a way to handle that. And the editing and stunts need to work on the stuntwork between Melissa and her stunt double, there was a time in the finale in the fight between Lockwood and Supergirl it was EXTREMELY obvious when it was the double, whereas Chyler and her double it was much more seamless....so I know they can do it.