Superman SPOILER Review Thread (NO TAGS NECESSARY)

Anyone else just been thinking "Well I'm a punkrocker, yes I am..." since watching the movie... or just me? LOL!
It has been in my head for 3 days straight now. :funny:
Just saw an edit using this song and now it's even more firmly stuck in my head, along with David's infectious grin 😁
 
It’s not perfect, but in many ways, it is note perfect.

They’ve simply nailed the tone and the feel of the world and its characters. Nailed it. We’re in good hands with the DCU moving forward. This movie, if nothing else, feels like a big sigh of relief. And that comes from someone who loved the ponderous navel-gazing and sturm of the Snyderverse. It’s wildly entertaining and great fun. It may not be as intellectually nourishing as it could have been, but this may be good for the soul in general. The ā€œinspiringā€ part of the film is a real thing. If you buy in, you may well come out of this wanting to be a better person in general, to show more compassion and consideration. And while that’s absolutely baked into the movie, it’s not really an overt message that is delivered. And I find that really impressive from a filmmaking standpoint.

I do think that this movie is absolutely what it needed to be to get fans and general audiences back on board, right down to the runtime, which is too short for the ideal approach, but just right for this story and entry in the universe. They ā€˜re going to be hooking an entire new generation with this movie. My little guy left the theatre flying his Superman action figure around.

The script is pretty solid considering all that’s packed into it. It's certainly stuffed, but isn’t really messy or meandering at all. It’s Superman’s world and life that’s messy, but the script and story itself is decidedly simple and straightforward, with just enough small twists or turns in the story to satisfy, or at least to inform the characters and the world appropriately. Even then, it’s fairly predictable stuff, though the level of some of the machinations was surprising. The pocket universe being used in part to fake the Hammer attack and as a secret prison threw me a bit. It’s not perfectly structured as a story, but it is perfectly well structured. I suspect that any perceived pacing problems (triple word score!) will lessen with subsequent viewings.

There’s a lot that has been made about there being a strong message of hope in the film, but I’m not really seeing that inherent in the movie. I think people are bringing that to the movie, and wanting that from the movie, and wanting that in general, and that there’s a zeitgeist element to that that will make this film resonate that way with people.

I get that Superman and the events of the movie are mean to inspire hope in the goodness of people to a degree, but that’s never really tested much or actually fleshed out as a concept, and truthfully, it might have distracted from the core narrative if it was, given how the rest of the film is approached. To that end, I thought Superman’s final monologue was just a bit too clipped, though Corenswet does deliver it well. That speech could easily have gone wrong.

The dialogue isn’t great in places, though I think that’s intentional. There are moments where it’s obvious we’re getting a nod to classic comic book exposition or monologuing, and more than a few nods to the ā€œYou’ll never get away with thisā€ level stuff. Gunn doesn’t have characters say more than they need to much of the time, which is appreciated.

The action is imaginative and generally well-rendered and executed. The anti-proton river was amazing, inventive stuff, and its worth dealing with another ā€œdimensional riftā€ story point to get to experience that. The fight with The Raptors is great. I didn’t see a lot of the significant CGI issues people are complaining about. Maybe a few of the wider shots in flight sequences, but nothing ever doesn’t look ā€œrealā€ during the action.

For a movie of this scale, this is a story that really hinges on the little things. And those are the things, and moments, that seem to really interest James Gunn. Little moments of kindness, or consideration, or analysis. Little moments of physical comedy. Little nods to character, or little moments that paint a really light picture of what someone’s relationship or relevance to another character is.

Corenswet is just incredible. To pull off some of those lines and moments with the kind of perfectly balanced earnestness he does…just incredible work. Physically, vocally, an entirely committed, genuine performance. He seems like he can pull off bumbling Clark just fine, but I really enjoyed Private Clark and his bubbling frustrations and fears. And his Superman is pretty much perfect, with these little cracks in the facade he's trying to put on for others that showcase Clark's insecurities or emotions.

Brosnahan is also really, really good, and their chemistry really is off the charts. They elevate each other in almost every sequence. Their fledgling relationship is really believable, and refreshing as a take on the classic pairing. Lois is a dynamo here, constantly a step or three ahead of people, annoyed with them as she wants for them to catch up to what she's already arrived at, but willing to swallow her ego and try to teach.

Hoult…I did not like at first, until I saw what he was doing with Lex. He’s unwrapping Lex as the movie unwraps Lex's plot, and then I realized that his performance was this gradual cracking open of Lex Luthor as he fails on different levels. And viewed through that lens, it’s a really spectacular and dare I say, layered, performance.

Luthor’s plans on plans on plans serve to make him sort of a comic book Lex Luthor on steroids, and the little abusive twists just make him feel like a detestable human being. And I love how bored and apathetic he is about his fantastic inventions, other than their utility. The apathy which which he describes these incredible discoveries and inventions was a unique approach.

I thought Sara Sampaio's take on Eve Tessmacher, while predictable, was somewhat clever with the subterfuge elements.

Edi Gathegi was just excellent as Mr. Terrific. He’s clearly putting on a sort of persona as he goes about his business, and you see it slip a few times. There’s a lot there to mine, hope we get to see it.

Nathan Fillion is also excellent as Guy Gardner. I honestly wasn’t sure if he could find the right balance, which shows what I know.

Isabela Merced makes a striking, sarcastic Hawkgirl. She's coiled and dangerous and looking to lash out in battle, and weirdly relaxed and aloof outside it. Looking forward to more of her as well.

Anthony Carrigan’s Metamorpho was grotesque, but also really sympathetic. You could connect to the character immediately, which is a feat, not just because of the layers of makeup, but because he’s still underdeveloped. I kind of need to see a Metamorpho and Plastic Man V Bane and Deathstroke movie immediately.

There’s something just perfect about the inside of the Hall of Justice being this yellow and orange 70’s scheme. Not just because the Kenner Hall was yellow, but it doesn’t hurt. Max Lord was kind of blink and you miss him, wasn’t he?

The Daily Planet staff is just perfect. Wendell Pierce is gruff and all business, but you can tell there’s a compassionate man in there somewhere. ******* Jimmy is not a flavor I knew I wanted until it happened. I like how he’s sort of used to highlight ā€œthe other side of journalismā€ (along with Clark), perhaps well meaning, but with less integrity and compassion. He was sort of ruthless but also weirdly unsure of himself, a take on toxic masculinity, but there's more to him. And the rest of the supporting characters, though limited in their portrayals, really made everything feel lived in and familiar. I adored the Magic School Bus Adventure approach with Perry leading them into battle in a flying saucer. Wanted much, much more of them. I suspect Gunn knows that, and has parceled certain characters out to us so we'll want more elsewhere.

The Engineer is cool, but just kind of there. She has a decent amount to do, but is a bit one dimensional. Maria Gabriela de Faria's performance is good, though. She managed to inject enough emotion into it that the character doesn’t feel completely cardboard.

Ultraman, or at least Proto-Ultraman, is also certainly there. The action with him is great, the small moments of physical comedy had a ā€œMonkey workā€ quality to them at times, but were appreciated from a performance standpoint. He works okay as an extension of Lex’s machinations and obsession. And there are like, six places they can go with him (More formed Ultraman hell bent on revenge/Crime Syndicate, Bizarro, some version of Doomsday, some combination of Braniac…that sort of open option for the character is fairly intriguing to me.

And the great thing is…they can still do the other characters that he doesn’t turn into in fairly faithful ways if they want. Nothing in the film or his fate precludes it. We’re told that Lex has made other clones, and he’s clearly done other experiments. And that gives Superman’s rogues gallery a sort of ā€œfreak of the weekā€ feel, and ties it back to Lex, which is cool.

Ma and Pa Kent were my big disappointment in this movie, but that has little to do with their portrayal or performance. I think I’m just conditioned to want more of their presence throughout the film, their wisdom, their exploration of conflicts with Clark. The performances here are spot on. I’ve seen people complain about the sort of country bumpkin portrayal, but being descended from them myself, that really is almost exactly what typical Midwest salt of the earth folks act and often sound like. And…the way they used the Kents to settle things down mid film really drove him the sort of ā€œweek in the life of Supermanā€ feel of everything, which is something about the film that I loved. It’s the only place that the movie really does slow down or breathe, and it was very, very welcome at that point. They’re not a constant presence in the film, but they do provide emotional color to it at just the right time.

Krypto…was just fantastic. All of it. Just fantastic.

Evil Jor-El is either a feint, and part of a more nefarious scheme (but why?) or canon here, and either way, there are some really good story possibilities there.

Oh, and "Mankind Is Introduced to The Supergirl". She’s clearly dealing with some stuff, but is also likely going to set a certain cub reporter straight.

I would have liked to have seen Superman use The Fortress for something other than healing, and to see its secrets explored just a bit more, but they did give us a little glimpse of him actually using it to get some solitude at the end of the film, and that was really poignant.

Gunn has populated this world with color-coordinated citizenry largely bored of or annoyed at world-ending threats if they’re not right in its path (a commentary on the world?) who are used to evacuating when they strike, a news staff that is sticking around through the danger and mostly curious, jaded, selfish heroes, and people willing to work for a supervillain for some reason. There’s really a great cross section of downright comic book humanity on display here, and it makes the world feel lived in and more real, even though it’s not fleshed out very much.

There are the seeds of future storylines and possibilities dropped here. The Pocket Universe has a sort of de facto Phantom Zone feel to it and there are undoubtably other universes with other worlds and other dimensions to explore. Using the concepts in this film as an introductory primer to all of that was clever.

I do feel bad for Lex’s exes, and whoever else got left behind in the Pocket Dimension when Superman…just didn’t save them from the prison. Would have liked to have seen some sort of attempt to rescue them, too, maybe have Rex do that while Superman tries to save Joey, or having Lex’s ā€œMr. Handsomeā€ help out and pitch in. Maybe that’s the plot of a JIMMY OLSON & THE NEWSBOYS limited series. Big Jim kind of needs the redemption, after all. And it would be a good forum to flesh out the Daily Planet staff. Just saying.

Regardless, Gunn absolutely gets this mythology, and his vision for it is impressive. He’s taken a dash of inspiration from many different eras and it all works together quite seamlessly, and just feels ā€œclassicā€. That’s no small feat, either. He clearly has an affinity for All Star Superman, and there will probably be elements of that in the sequel, especially when it comes to Luthor. I’m guessing the sequel will feel less For All Seasons and involve slightly more traditional storytelling.

Something most people aren’t discussing, but that I think the seeds have been planted for…this Superman isn’t naiive, but he IS flawed. And those flaws are going to cause problems for him moving forward. Feels like maybe he’s going to have to learn certain lessons more than once. And for all his obvious charm, he’s more than just a bit out of step with everyone else, even a little bit socially awkward. I would say that while he’s a very good person, he’s also being deliberately portrayed as a little bit out of touch. Not just socially, but morally. It’s an interesting approach to the character.
 
The three main reasons that make me forgive some of the stuff I don't like:
The Super Powers/Super Friends vibe moving forward (that Hall will be packed in a few years time) and the personality of Clark/Superman along his relationship with Ma and Pa Kent. I wish the movie focused more on that and less on the sci-fi-ish detours the movie takes. Gunn is really good with emotions.
Oh and Krypto. That was the biggest selling point of this movie.
 
While Superman didn't save the pocket universe captives (he wanted too but Terrific stopped him so he could rest) you do see at the end they are rescued. Remember his ex who wrote the blog post comes out of the ship and runs to her parents.
 
I do feel bad for Lex’s exes, and whoever else got left behind in the Pocket Dimension when Superman…just didn’t save them from the prison. Would have liked to have seen some sort of attempt to rescue them, too, maybe have Rex do that while Superman tries to save Joey, or having Lex’s ā€œMr. Handsomeā€ help out and pitch in.
They were all rescued. They took the other portal and we see them all getting off the LuthorCorp "ship" in the street, and one of the ex-girlfriends reuniting with her mom.

EDIT: what @dhandler01 said lol.
 
First, to get it out of the way, the stuff with Jor-El Lara is all time dirty. I hate it. Genuinely. It’s extremely xenophobic at best and honestly feels pretty racist as well. This is made worse by the all time worst Kents. Why do they feel like a couple that Raylan Givens would’ve busted for running meth? It’s insanity and feels built on the idea that these ass backward American values, the ones which are leading us straight into fascism, are what made Clark antifa? It feel so wrong headed and it dashed any hope that I’d consider this a favorite. There is a bit of wiggle room. Jor-El and Lara look like they’re doing an al-Qaeda hostage video (very fitting considering) but who knows. Maybe it's Brainiac or Zod?

With that out of the way, let’s get to the rest of the movie. The script is very first draft. I don’t know if that’s down to the strike or just Gunn’s usual sloppiness, but the film feels incredibly half baked. Numerous good ideas, none fleshed out. It leads to a scatter gun of stuff in the first act, in a movie moving at breakneck speed, and then a complete shift in the narrative that leaves all that on the back burner. I couldn’t believe some of the stuff in the first act was actually happening when it did in the overall narrative. I don’t have an issue with the lived in state of the world but the movie cannot then feel like a sequel to something I’ve never seen. And that’s how this feels. It feels like a stark contrast with something like The Batman, which pulled it off seamlessly in comparison.

There are too many characters. The entire planet crew is a waste and Jimmy is the worst. I did enjoy the few moments of Perry but it’s all fleeting. Sadly it’s the same for Hawkgirl (why the hell did they decide on her screeching everywhere),

David’s wonderful. Incredibly endearing in his humanity and general kindness. He’s not Reeve but that’s not a bad thing. Rachel is Midge and I couldn’t be happier. I felt like the marketing hide her but in the movie she’s everything I could ask for in Lois. I love her little moment on the Kent farm and she got me a bit emotional during it. There are sparks whenever her and Clark are together and I just wanted more of that. Krypto is obviously best boy and arguably the most consistently enjoyable part of the movie. Metamorpho, like Ultraman (a complete waste), feels very much like a plot character, but at least there was some fun to have there. Terrific is flat out hilarious (though I can’t believe they did the arrow scene from GotG vol.2 again) and Guy is suitably Guy. Lex feels uneven do the script, but by the third act he’s firing on all cinders and Hoult is his usual great self there. Milly’s few moments made me nearly as happy as Lois did. Could’ve done with more of those wonderful robots as well.

I’m so tired of Gunn’s misogyny showing up . Lois and Kara, no issue. The rest of the women in this movie? Holy crap. Tess, Hawkgirl, Martha, Cat, etc. All caricatures of women and for the most part idiots. Like offensively so (don’t get me started on Lara taking the biggest L in the decoded message). Gunn does this a lot and I guess it’s because you get a lot of men being asshats in his movies that no one pays it any mind, but here, not so much and it makes how the women are treated really stand out. I don’t think this is intentional on Gunn’s part but it’s there and it makes me uncomfortable a lot of the time.

That said, I really, really like the third act. Half baked as the plot is the climax highlights the best aspect of the movie. Clark, his wife, his husband, and his dog.

Overall an ugly film with choice moments, a bad score, and a wonderful use of Punk Rocker.

So do I like it? Still not sure. There are parts I rather like and others I rather loathe. Is it better then STM or II? No. Better then MoS? Duh. Is it a good movie? I’ll say yes. By a sMidge.

***1/4

P.S. I was right about Kara’s belt!!! In your faces!!!
 
Evil Jor-El is either a feint, and part of a more nefarious scheme (but why?) or canon here, and either way, there are some really good story possibilities there.

Is Jor-El evil though? I've seen a lot of people say it but.....I didn't see it that way.

He sent his baby away as Krypton is exploding, to a planet where he knew he would be able to thrive, and wants him to repopulate/keep Kryptonian heritage alive.

Definitely isnt completely "good" but I see him as more grey given what little we got from the characters.
 
Is Jor-El evil though? I've seen a lot of people say it but.....I didn't see it that way.

He sent his baby away as Krypton is exploding, to a planet where he knew he would be able to thrive, and wants him to repopulate/keep Kryptonian heritage alive.

Definitely isnt completely "good" but I see him as more grey given what little we got from the characters.
When you and your wife are like, "they are dumb and you can kill those that annoy you" that's evil.
 
Well I saw it tonight, just got home. Saw it with my dad, uncle, my cousin and his two sons. We all liked it, but each of us had something or other that didn't quite sit well. One thing we definitely all agreed on, the S symbol sucks. Everyone in my group said the same thing, the action was good but every time we saw the S, it took us out of the movie.

But aside from that, me personally, I would give it a 7.5 or 8. I liked everyone's performance, especially David Corenswet, he's his own Superman not emulating anyone, and I can appreciate that. It's a new take, and it's good.

All the action was good as well, seeing Superman get hurt and thrown around and get dirty is the real winner for me. It adds a sense of danger, and progression to the whole thing.

I wasn't too big on the flight with the Kaiju monster, because the movie treated it as just another Tuesday. It didn't feel like anyone was in danger.

The biggest issue I had though, was that whole thing with Jor El and Lara. I didn't like that twist at all. I read leaks that said Lex Luthor faked it, but I guess they changed that.

Overall it's a good Superman film with a lot of spectacle and I'm heart, but misses a few key things, to me.
 
Well I saw it tonight, just got home. Saw it with my dad, uncle, my cousin and his two sons. We all liked it, but each of us had something or other that didn't quite sit well. One thing we definitely all agreed on, the S symbol sucks. Everyone in my group said the same thing, the action was good but every time we saw the S, it took us out of the movie.

But aside from that, me personally, I would give it a 7.5 or 8. I liked everyone's performance, especially David Corenswet, he's his own Superman not emulating anyone, and I can appreciate that. It's a new take, and it's good.

All the action was good as well, seeing Superman get hurt and thrown around and get dirty is the real winner for me. It adds a sense of danger, and progression to the whole thing.

I wasn't too big on the flight with the Kaiju monster, because the movie treated it as just another Tuesday. It didn't feel like anyone was in danger.

The biggest issue I had though, was that whole thing with Jor El and Lara. I didn't like that twist at all. I read leaks that said Lex Luthor faked it, but I guess they changed that.

Overall it's a good Superman film with a lot of spectacle and I'm heart, but misses a few key things, to me.
They didn't change that. It is how it has always been. The leaker behind that info was very tuned out, so many hoped that the leaker has misunderstood and it was faked. Sadly we were wrong there.
 
I honestly had a great time with this. This is what I wanted. Superman has his flaws, he makes mistakes, but he's doing his best to be a good person. And it does show even by the end how people still aren't quite aligned with him. Or at least everyone is willing to do their own things. Superman wouldn't have been for Hawk Girl killing that slimeball President. But that'll happen when everyone has their own moral code and belief system.

But this is a Superman who still has a lot of growing to do. He was rattled pretty hard by that interview with Lois. And Krypto being captured absolutely made him flip his lid. But those are things that make me appreciate the character.

In some ways it's kind of funny that we've gone from Ma and Pa Kent being kind of garbage people in the Snyderverse to Superman's biological parents being kind of terrible. In some ways I get the approach. Having Jor-El not be as good as Clark thought creates a good bit of conflict and introduces some nature versus nurture into the mix. Plus in some ways you can say his biological parents were products of a society that ended the way it did. They weren't such anomalies that they had nothing in common with their people. While the second half of their message was pretty terrible...they did clearly love their son. Their wishes simply didn't align with the man their child grew up to be.

And honestly the darkness of that message lead to one of my favourite moments. The scene with Clark and Jonathan was simple, but good. His Dad really is just a regular guy. A lot of this is over his head. But what he knows is that Clark's actions already defined who he is. Not about what he, Martha, or Jor-El want Clark to be. It's about who he is and what he lives by. That was a lovely scene. Gunn is really good when it comes to father and son moments.

There was so much I enjoyed here. Luthor basically using Superman's clone like an action figure was so fitting it hurt! All his intelligence, charisma, and resources. And in the end Luthor just wants to punch Superman in the face even by proxy. Utterly fitting that Luthor was in the end stymied...by a dog. All his brilliance meant nothing against a dog!

Movie also hit home how despicable Luthor is at his core. He killed that guy for the crime of helping a downed Superman. What a piece of work...

I could certainly sit back and nitpick it with some time to think on it. But my gut response to this movie is that I liked it.
 
my litle review (and my other Supeman reviews)

 
Very solid and unique take on Superman that doesn't emulate past live-action Superman whether film, TV, or animation. It's like seeing all the Superman and DCU issues coming to life that's comic book-like than most.

David Corenswet, Rachel Brosnahan, and Nicholas JHoult carried the film as Superman is the triangle of Clark, Lois, and Lex. Happy Birthday to Rachel, who turns 35.

With the Superman movie now released, the Superman torch is now passed from Tyler Hoechlin to David Corenswet. The new Superman movie will be watched multiple times, just like the original 1978 movie has before it. It's a movie for everyone.
 
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First, to get it out of the way, the stuff with Jor-El Lara is all time dirty. I hate it. Genuinely. It’s extremely xenophobic at best and honestly feels pretty racist as well. This is made worse by the all time worst Kents. Why do they feel like a couple that Raylan Givens would’ve busted for running meth? It’s insanity and feels built on the idea that these ass backward American values, the ones which are leading us straight into fascism, are what made Clark antifa? It feel so wrong headed and it dashed any hope that I’d consider this a favorite. There is a bit of wiggle room. Jor-El and Lara look like they’re doing an al-Qaeda hostage video (very fitting considering) but who knows. Maybe it's Brainiac or Zod?

With that out of the way, let’s get to the rest of the movie. The script is very first draft. I don’t know if that’s down to the strike or just Gunn’s usual sloppiness, but the film feels incredibly half baked. Numerous good ideas, none fleshed out. It leads to a scatter gun of stuff in the first act, in a movie moving at breakneck speed, and then a complete shift in the narrative that leaves all that on the back burner. I couldn’t believe some of the stuff in the first act was actually happening when it did in the overall narrative. I don’t have an issue with the lived in state of the world but the movie cannot then feel like a sequel to something I’ve never seen. And that’s how this feels. It feels like a stark contrast with something like The Batman, which pulled it off seamlessly in comparison.

There are too many characters. The entire planet crew is a waste and Jimmy is the worst. I did enjoy the few moments of Perry but it’s all fleeting. Sadly it’s the same for Hawkgirl (why the hell did they decide on her screeching everywhere),

David’s wonderful. Incredibly endearing in his humanity and general kindness. He’s not Reeve but that’s not a bad thing. Rachel is Midge and I couldn’t be happier. I felt like the marketing hide her but in the movie she’s everything I could ask for in Lois. I love her little moment on the Kent farm and she got me a bit emotional during it. There are sparks whenever her and Clark are together and I just wanted more of that. Krypto is obviously best boy and arguably the most consistently enjoyable part of the movie. Metamorpho, like Ultraman (a complete waste), feels very much like a plot character, but at least there was some fun to have there. Terrific is flat out hilarious (though I can’t believe they did the arrow scene from GotG vol.2 again) and Guy is suitably Guy. Lex feels uneven do the script, but by the third act he’s firing on all cinders and Hoult is his usual great self there. Milly’s few moments made me nearly as happy as Lois did. Could’ve done with more of those wonderful robots as well.

I’m so tired of Gunn’s misogyny showing up . Lois and Kara, no issue. The rest of the women in this movie? Holy crap. Tess, Hawkgirl, Martha, Cat, etc. All caricatures of women and for the most part idiots. Like offensively so (don’t get me started on Lara taking the biggest L in the decoded message). Gunn does this a lot and I guess it’s because you get a lot of men being asshats in his movies that no one pays it any mind, but here, not so much and it makes how the women are treated really stand out. I don’t think this is intentional on Gunn’s part but it’s there and it makes me uncomfortable a lot of the time.

That said, I really, really like the third act. Half baked as the plot is the climax highlights the best aspect of the movie. Clark, his wife, his husband, and his dog.

Overall an ugly film with choice moments, a bad score, and a wonderful use of Punk Rocker.

So do I like it? Still not sure. There are parts I rather like and others I rather loathe. Is it better then STM or II? No. Better then MoS? Duh. Is it a good movie? I’ll say yes. By a sMidge.

***1/4

P.S. I was right about Kara’s belt!!! In your faces!!!
I didn't care for the kents very much either.. I just couldn't believe these people could raise a superpowered alien and be able to manage all that comes with it.
Overall, I enjoyed it.
 
Not that you asked me but...

Honestly I was most surprised by Guy. Good lord he was spot on. When he says "make a move Big Blue" I could literally see the one punch scene with Batman in my head. I would pay good money for a JLI series.

I liked Jimmy...he was proactive and not just Clark's goofy buddy. A DP series with him as lead could be fun as heck!

Metamorpho was a huge surprise as well. His scream when Lex shoots the dude hit me both times.

Mr. Terrific is one of my favorite comic characters so he didn't surprise me how good he was but man my gf thought he was amazing!

Fillion is the perfect Guy for this universe. Fantastic casting in a sea of fantastic castings. They all fit in to Gunn's style quite well. That's the beauty of putting new films with new takes out there. It's worth the risk, even if the risk fails. I would have never put my stamp down on my Bingo card to look forward to a Guy Gardner spinoff from this. That's exactly what happened. He's awesome and sneaky likable.
 
It wasn't a perfect film, but I loved it way more than Snyderverse Supes. It's a James Gunn film through and through (albeit, a bit toned down to what we're used to). More comicbook accurate and made Superman what he is supposed to be - a symbol for justice and doing the right and good thing. Also, Lex is way better here. The chemistry between Clark and Lois is also better. I only felt that the pace was too fast at the start of the film and that it didn't take any breaks with the amount of story info it had to cover. And while I liked the Justice Gang and especially Mr. Terrific, I did not like his action scene because it felt like something i've seen too often in GOTG already. Overall a solid 8.5-9.0/10. A solid start to the new DC cinematic universe.
 
Is Jor-El evil though? I've seen a lot of people say it but.....I didn't see it that way.

No, I didn't either. Just shorthand. Something is likely getting lost in translation, and there are obvious cultural differenves.

I wasn't too big on the flight with the Kaiju monster, because the movie treated it as just another Tuesday. It didn't feel like anyone was in danger.

The Kaiju was in danger.

And honestly the darkness of that message lead to one of my favourite moments. The scene with Clark and Jonathan was simple, but good. His Dad really is just a regular guy. A lot of this is over his head. But what he knows is that Clark's actions already defined who he is. Not about what he, Martha, or Jor-El want Clark to be. It's about who he is and what he lives by. That was a lovely scene. Gunn is really good when it comes to father and son moments.
Ironically this is pretty much what Pa Kent communicates in MAN OF STEEL, albeit more dramatically.
 
I just saw it. Overall, I liked it and enjoyed it, but wasn't wowed like I was when I saw Man of Steel.
IDK, besides GOTG, I don't really enjoy Gun's type of humor and kind of high school jokes. I have the same issue with Taika Waititi.

David Corenswet - very good, very likable. I wish we saw more of his Clark. His Superman felt most human of all of them, save maybe the one from Smallville.

Rachel Brosnahan - she was fine, but I must say, I wasn't wowed by her at all. kind of there. She felt like Lois only in the interview scene. They have good chemistry, but I'm not sold on her.

Nicholas Hoult - in a word, perfect. Everything I imagined modern Lex to be. He was exceptional.

Edi Gathegi - I really get nothing out of this actor. I wanna like him, but I find him so devoid of on screen charisma, that the good performance is lessened by it. Sort of like Lois.

I'm gonna sound totally shallow, but the most unbelievable thing in this movie, the biggest SF was trying to make me believe that that Jimmy Olsen was some kind of chick magnet. It screams such a pathetic self-insert on the creators part. The guy is painfully average.

The rest of the cast was ok more or less, no one stud out as extremely bad or good.

Ma Kent was over the top hillbilly, but I liked Pa Kent. Grounded and gentle. A kind of man I imagine could raise Superman.

I however did love the twist with "conquer them and take many wives to continue our race" idea. Kinda novel for Superman, and yet I think it works very well and opens doors for future conflicts. Though the "harem" joke got old fast.

Also, good on Gun to allude to Israel and Palestine. It could be red as Russia-Ukraine, but given that Barovia is a "friend" to the USA and the desert look of the other country, screams Israel and Palestine.

I do have to wonder, do people behind Marvel and DC only know 2 Eastern Europeans counties, and because they don't use Russia, they keep using Serbia? Sokovia is using Serbian written language as their own and now Barovia is using the spoken language.

As I Serb, I would be more flattered to hear my language in a Hollywood movie were we not always portrayed as villains.

Music was forgettable besides the main motif.

I found the fight in the proton or whatever river to be confusing and I did not enjoy the staging of the Mr terrific fight with Lois there.

IDK, maybe a 6.5 out of 10.
 
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I'm gonna sound totally shallow, but the most unbelievable thing in this movie, the biggest SF was trying to make me believe that that Jimmy Olsen was some kind of chick magnet. It screams such a pathetic self-insert on the creators part. The guy is painfully average.

This is heightened and played for laughs, but actually fairly accurate. Jimmy in the 90's comics (and especially on LOIS & CLARK) was always on a date, seeing someone famous or sought after, etc. In the late eighties/early 90's he was famous in his own rite, and was a Metropolis TV star to boot.
 

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