The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 General Discussion - - - - - Part 14

[GENERAL RAAM582]

I can see TASM and MoS both being films that can be looked at better when their respected trilogy is complete.

 

[FN Spider-man]

i'm just anxious to get more sutff but im def being patient, regardless of the stuff we saw , I still know nothing about anything and I hope that when they start bringing out trailers that they hold I hope they learned their lesson

 

[fuflipflops]

I can see TASM and MoS both being films that can be looked at better when their respected trilogy is complete.

same

 

[Nicko-Ray]

i'm just anxious to get more sutff but im def being patient, regardless of the stuff we saw , I still know nothing about anything and I hope that when they start bringing out trailers that they hold I hope they learned their lesson

True. It's crazy to think that we've seen all these photos but we know nothing about the movie except for the synopsis. We don't know how deep this movie can go. That's the fun part that makes it exciting.

 

[FN Spider-man]

You think they might kick off again with a viral?

 

[Nicko-Ray]

Hmm. It's possible. It'd be fun to roll off Oscorp like they did last year. I'd be into it.

I loved all the viral last year with his high school stuff, his "photo blog", Dr. Connors' videos at the Oscorp site..

 

[Gianakin_]

2 things:
a) does anyone else feel that what´s happening now to MoS is very similar to TASM? (mixed reviews , people loving it and some mixed)

No, TASM was divisive for both fans and critics. MoS is divisive only among critics so far. Key being "so far".

b)Do you think the writters can make justice for TASM 2? i mwa n some people tell me they are good and some bad...idk

They're very hit or miss, but I have faith, for some reason.

 

[Spiderdevil]

I can see TASM and MoS both being films that can be looked at better when their respected trilogy is complete.

If MoS has a trilogy that is

Also why do people keep comparing TASM and MoS?
TASM is certified fresh while MoS is in the rotten category as of now

 

[mayo23]

If MoS has a trilogy that is

Also why do people keep comparing TASM and MoS?
TASM is certified fresh while MoS is in the rotten category as of now

Despite being certified fresh, ASM was still very much divisive among critics and arguably much more amongst fans.

So far, in spite of being rotten MoS appears to be much more of a crowd and fan pleaser than ASM was. At least in terms of spectacle and action, MoS is looking to blow ASM out of the water in that regard.

 

[Scarlettess]

I thought generally most people outside of fans loved ASM. Which is what MoS seems to be doing.

 

[miltonh]

It's clear critics like The Amazing Spider-Man more:

Man of Steel - 59% and 55% from top critics

The Amazing Spider-Man - 73% and 80% from top critics


I think TASM is full of plot holes but it's still very entertaining.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

TASM is perhaps the most divisive superhero film to date. There was a lot of people in the general mainstream movie-goer corner that didn't like it and there was also a lot of people amongst them that loved it. Same goes for fans of Spider-Man comics and comicbook-fans in general

 

[PeterBenParker]

I was one of the few who absolutely loved it, and still hold it on such a high regard.

The story was good, The cast was great, the setting was good, the CGI was phenomenal, the villain was fine (but could've been a lot better in terms of his FAMILY being in the godforsaken movie), the suit was awesome (in my opinion that is, I hated the Raimi suit so this one was a welcome change).

For all the three big CBMs last year:

The Amazing Spider-Man - 4.5/5
The Avengers - 4.75/5
The Dark Knight Rises - 3.5/5.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

My rating:
The Amazing Spider-Man - 4.5/5
The Avengers - 4.7/5
The Dark Knight Rises - 5+/5

While not the best of those films, imo The Avengers was the most "flawless" one. The Amazing Spider-Man had problems but it was thrilling and enjoyable all the way through, and it created really good versions of the main characters that I can't wait to see in the sequel in a potentially better story, so it gets that rating. The Dark Knight Rises had very little problems imo, but the good stuff in the movie are more than enough to outweigh those nitpicks

 

[Neno_Kos]

For me ASM was new beginning with strong plot, but slow builiding story. It reminded me more on anime/manga, when you built a plot and make arcs from story, as each story should be better and better which complete at end one whole story. This is how ASM was made. When i finished film I were left cinema a bit dissapointed, but with hope and expectations of new chapter (new movie sequel) because you didnt see everything as you saw just one piece of puzzle. ASM will look much better if ASM2 as it seems will be, and ASM3 continue story from ASM.

On other hand original Spiderman Trilogy was mess, it looked like had continuity, but it never was that and never was planned to be that. Each movie was pretty much seperated from each other, you could see each movie had it's story but it never was one story and when they in Spiderman 3 did that it looked much worse (Uncle Ben real killer...). So that is why some people see Spiderman over ASM, because original movie had it beggining and the end of story.

That is why Batman trilogy was good. One story in 3 movies.

I didnt see Man of Steel but i pretty much from reviews can see what i need to expect when i see it. Probably something like Raimi Spiderman, full of action with cool plot and end of story in same movie. And if MOS2 (if they made sequel) would be again movie with complete seperate story from MOS, just made up again full of action with plot people will love it but again it's not real sequel. At the end if MOS3 will be made in same way, that is not trilogy. When people will see and buy trilogy they will see 3 seperate story in 3 movies with nothing in common then Superman in him.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I absolutely believe that there is a place for the serialized Spider-Man trilogy this is gonna be, but this wasn't the right time for that. And the Nolan Batman series wasn't planned to be serialized at first.

Christopher Nolan didn't know if he was gonna make a trilogy, Batman Begins was supposed to be kind of a "prequel-esque" movie that implied theoretical continuation of the story within that universe by showing the Joker-card, but it wasn't exactly serializing and the movie could've been stand-alone just the same. The same should've been done with TASM imo, even if they knew that sequels would be made

 

[Spiderdevil]

Despite being certified fresh, ASM was still very much divisive among critics and arguably much more amongst fans.

Because SM1 was imo the perfect CB origin movie.And it was released just 10 years before TASM
TASM had an incredibly hard job to beat it and since the source material was the same,many parts of the movie looked a repeat
Thats what most critics complained about.Webb had no option either,he couldnt have skipped the spider bite,or Ben's death,or the responsibility message.It had to redone if they were to tell the origin again

While Zach Snyder had an empty road,the last superman origin came back in the 80s,he could have moulded him in any way possible.And yet he failed

So far, in spite of being rotten MoS appears to be much more of a crowd and fan pleaser than ASM was. .

The movie has just been release today its too early to tell

At this point,TASM had almost 100% positive response from the crowds.While MoS has had tons of bad response from crowds aswell.Just visit the MoS boards.Many fans are hating it

At least in terms of spectacle and action, MoS is looking to blow ASM out of the water in that regard

If I wanted empty action,I would watch the Transformers
I would hate to see a Spidey movie with plastic,witless,non-charismatic hero like MoS seems to have even if it had good action

While I agree the TASM action sequences should have been better,I would never want ridiculously long,over the top,CGI heavy and destructive action in a Spider-man movie

 

[TheWallCrawler]

Because SM1 was imo the perfect CB origin movie.And it was released just 10 years before TASM

The origin was perfectly done. The rest of the movie on the other hand... meh. I guess it's a taste issue

While Zach Snyder had an empty road,the last superman origin came back in the 80s,he could have moulded him in any way possible.And yet he failed

you apparently haven't seen the movie, so why are you saying that? Sure many have disliked the movie, but there have been a couple of great reviews for it which of course implies that certain individuals can/will like the approach the movie takes. In this case it comes down to perspective that if he failed or not, so it's silly giving up on it and stating those things as facts before seeing it yourself

 

[Gianakin_]

And yet he failed

Not true... yet. You even say yourself below that...

The movie has just been release today its too early to tell

Take a page from yourself and don't be quick to judge.

At this point,TASM had almost 100% positive response from the crowds.

Also not true.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

the rotten tomatoes meter was like 91% for TASM at first. But then again, there only were like a couple reviews

 

[Climperoonie]

Loved TASM when I first saw it, still love it now. I think the Raimi films are extremely over-rated and so I'm just finally glad that my hero is being taken seriously by a director and not given the whole tongue-in-cheek, fairy tale tone that I always felt in the old trilogy.

Sure there are holes in The Amazing Spider-Man, but I honestly don't care as I enjoy it so much I can overlook them.

As for the big three last year:
TASM - 5/5
Avengers - 4.5/5
TDKR - 4/5

 

[SpiderMan'sBoot]

I really liked TASM, felt the second half was a little rushed compared to the first but on the whole I think it's opened things up for an interesting series. It's up to TASM2 to deliver.

Focussing on TASM, I just came across this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=57Y30I_Ndt8

Thought it works pretty well!

 

[Spiderdevil]

The origin was perfectly done. The rest of the movie on the other hand... meh. I guess it's a taste issue

Usually in a origin movie there is no room other things(Villains),even after that Raimi did really well

TASM did almost as well with the origin but fell falt with the Villain in the 2nd half.

you apparently haven't seen the movie, so why are you saying that? Sure many have disliked the movie, but there have been a couple of great reviews for it which of course implies that certain individuals can/will like the approach the movie takes. In this case it comes down to perspective that if he failed or not, so it's silly giving up on it and stating those things as facts before seeing it yourself

Hello!
Its on 59% on RT
Even the likes of TIH,Hulk have a better rating

I highly doubt I am gonna like it after reading the reviews(All action,no substance,heart or emotion,Plactic and uncharismatic lead)

 

[Spiderdevil]

Take a page from yourself and don't be quick to judge.

There has been almost 170 reviews,Its safe to say it hasnt been a success with the critics
It'll be lucky to end with a fresh rating now

Its too early to judge the crowd reaction though.It'll most probably have a good opening weakend,whether it will have legs or not,remains to be seen

Also not true.

The RT was about 93% till 50 reviews and except RIM's review,all other fan reviews were positive

 

[Gianakin_]

Only you weren't talking about the critics. You made a broad statement: "He failed". You generalised.

And fan reactions for TASM were mixed. You can't just take into account the TASM boards, you have to look further. The crowds' response was something better than lukewarm.