The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 General Discussion - - - - - Part 14

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the real challenge though is to do something different from Nolan's Catwoman. I haven't read many Batman comics with Catwoman or Spidey comics with Black Cat, but from the stuff I've read and seen in different incarnations, Nolan's Catwoman is pretty similar to Black Cat

No actually Black Cat is a lot different. I'm just going off of TDKR mostly tho, cuz that and Burton's Catwoman are all I know enough to speak about.

There's different angles that people take on the relationship, but I think she'd work best in a movie (and I don't mean this in a crude or simple way) as an 'other woman' that Peter ends up using as an escape from the complexity of grown up marriage with MJ. Like at that point where you so much love a person that you can't walk away, you actually want to work things out with them and be a responsible adult and own up to the mistakes and faults about yourself, but you keep running into the same problems and it just seems impossible for anything to ever work out. And then you start to blame yourself and them and you start thinking sometimes that love really shouldn't be so much work.

So after Spider-Man and Felicia get over all the meeting, and fighting and getting used to one another, they get along real perfectly, and there's no issues about him being a super-hero becuz she's kind of one too, and he doesn't have to think or deal with all the real life stuff. And MJ can sense something of course, and it becomes like an addiction that just further estranges them and eventually leads to a choice he has to make about what he's going to value in his life, or if he has any right to keep putting MJ through the torment of maybe wasting her love and sacrificing her own needs to be married to Spider-Man.

And becuz of all that, I think she'd work real perfect against the backdrop of the whole symbiote suit, first the initial high and then thru the following crash, when Peter is drained and worn down from it, more impulsive, and more selfish in acting on his own needs. There's a lot of stuff for her all throughout a story like that.

But even besides my own obsession with her playing that role in a Venom trilogy, there's things about their relationship with each other that sets Black Cat apart from Catwoman. Like early on, she's really obsessed with Spider-man, like in a crazy way. And I think there's always kind of a feeling that she loves Spider-Man and not Peter, at least romantically. There's a famous issue that I think they have sex, she's not in any costume, but he keeps his mask on. I haven't read that one so I don't know if that's specifically her idea or not. But then also, she becomes a close friend of MJ's at certain points cuz they both know his secret identity and she's a lot of comfort to her and helps MJ out a lot too, which is a really cool aspect of the whole thing with Black Cat, how close she and Peter actually became as friends.

For some reason, women in the Spider-Man comics often seem to be really well written and more fleshed out than what is typical in other books.
 
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Don't know if I can stomach Leno for Jamie Foxx, think I'll wait til it finds its way online
 
You know id also like to see Silver Sable make it to the big screen one day
 
I did to all the way up until the part that said that her and hammer head use to date and I was like 0.o
Got a question how do you if Sable was brought in to TASM verse how would she introduced and fit in it?
 
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Jamie Foxx just performed what looked to be the "Electro" voice. It's dark and ominous, like a more understandable Batman from Batman Begins.

Always pictured Electro with a high pitched eccentric voice, much like the one from the 90s cartoon/Universal ride...but I'm digging this!
 
Yeah, I just watched it and I cant wait to hear how it sounds, and the part about the comb over being his idea
 
Jamie Foxx just performed what looked to be the "Electro" voice. It's dark and ominous, like a more understandable Batman from Batman Begins.

Always pictured Electro with a high pitched eccentric voice, much like the one from the 90s cartoon/Universal ride...but I'm digging this!

Yeah, I just watched it and I cant wait to hear how it sounds, and the part about the comb over being his idea

Damn. Hasn't aired yet here in Cali. Sounds exciting :yay:
 
It really is and Jamie is a riot I really think he's goin to own the role
 
What's everyone's thoughts on the multiple villains in the film? I loved SM3 but the thing most people cite as being wrong with SM3 was the multiple villains.
 
So... Who's exactly absurd?

You?

FromthearticleIpostedwhereSamactuallydidaninterviewandsaidwhathewasgoingtodo said:
Now that three years have passed, Raimi is also a lot more forthcoming about certain aspects of the film – specifically a mysterious role for Anne Hathaway, long believed to be the Vulturess (alongside John Malkovich as the Vulture) until it was later revealed she would have played renowned cat burglar, Black Cat.

But go ahead and believe what you want to believe. It seems to make the reboot better for some of you somehow.
 
What's everyone's thoughts on the multiple villains in the film? I loved SM3 but the thing most people cite as being wrong with SM3 was the multiple villains.

Easy. If every villain is handled correctly then I'm all for it. (Establish the main villain, is he/she affiliated with another villain in the movie? Make sure the main villain gets the majority of the screen time, what's the other villain got to do with the story? Is it important?) -stuff like that
 
I have a lot of respect of Raimi but you're basing your conclusions on your own thinking that Raimi would never create a new villain out of thin but that was actually the case
Show me a link. I provided multiple that corroborate with what Raimi himself said years later. Show a link that definitively says otherwise from a credible source. No one has been able to do that for some odd reason.

Early reports of Black Cat being in the script, then it was reported that it was the Vulturess in the script. There were obvious script issues between Raimi and Sony which then Raimi asked for a year delay on from 2011 to 2012. So, I wonder if the script issues came from Black Cat being changed to Vulturess. If Raimi wanted Vulturess then what were the script issues? Why the need for a delay? It's pretty obvious for most that know how to read and obviously not so obvious for some.
 
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hmm...Jamie gives a special mention about Dane Dehaan for a second time.
 
Easy. If every villain is handled correctly then I'm all for it. (Establish the main villain, is he/she affiliated with another villain in the movie? Make sure the main villain gets the majority of the screen time, what's the other villain got to do with the story? Is it important?) -stuff like that

I will say at least they are doing relatively simple villains for this film. Not a whole lot of character to Rhino for instance.
 
Yeah I caught that one that makes that twice now is Jamie telling us something?
 
I will say at least they are doing relatively simple villains for this film. Not a whole lot of character to Rhino for instance.
And I think the fact that they are simple ideas for villains is a good thing. I can't wait to see how the villains play a part in the story. How are they involved with Oscorp...etc

Yeah I caught that one that makes that twice now is Jamie telling us something?
I really think so.
 
I swear if they show 3D footage of Electro using his power I'd faint.
 
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