The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - User Review Thread! - SPOILERS! - Part 4

[Joe_Kickass]

I'd love for there to be a nice, compact Spider-Man movie. On dedicated to say Kraven so that it can remain grounded and focus less on spectacle and more on hand to hand fighting. Which we hardly ever get to see lol

 

[TayDee]

I think I know what bothered me most about this film, it was like several movies spliced together. You had the Spider-Man aspect which felt like nailed on Spider-Man, then you had the Peter/Gwen stuff which felt like a tern romance and then you had the Electro subplot which felt out of place in the corny way it was done which wouod have been more in place in (Raimi's) Spider-Man or a Joel Schumacher Batman film . Of course you also had the Harry Osbourn arc that again felt like a different movie to what else was going on, the film just didn't gel.

Peter is just as important as Spiderman. Romance is a big part of Peter's and gives some of the best stories so it kinda has to be included. I could agree with the other parts. They could've split it up, but hey, I'm happy with the results.

 

[BH/HHH]

Peter is just as important as Spiderman. Romance is a big part of Peter's and gives some of the best stories so it kinda has to be included. I could agree with the other parts. They could've split it up, but hey, I'm happy with the results.

Of course he us but that part of the film felt like it was from a different movie, that was my point.

 

[Mr.T]

Just got back from the movie and think it's not as bad as I was expecting, considering the critic reviews. Definitely, the best action Spider-Man sequences I've ever seen.

My biggest issue with this movie comes with the main villain, Electro. TASM goes out of its way to supposedly "ground" SM with the whole genetic research, DNA, science, background for SM. Hell, even the villains with Harry/Goblin, Rhino, etc. all having some sort of scientific reasoning as for their existence/creation. Then, they throw in the whole Electro bit. His character, creation, & motivation are just horribly written and out of place. I could rant on for hours about how he becomes Electro, alone. Rhino bothered me as well, although moreso at the end.

6/10 for me. I can see how it hit the low 50's on RT...

 

[BH/HHH]

I'd love for there to be a nice, compact Spider-Man movie. On dedicated to say Kraven so that it can remain grounded and focus less on spectacle and more on hand to hand fighting. Which we hardly ever get to see lol

I'd be happy with that too.

 

[AF3619]

I'd love for there to be a nice, compact Spider-Man movie. On dedicated to say Kraven so that it can remain grounded and focus less on spectacle and more on hand to hand fighting. Which we hardly ever get to see lol

agreed, a small movie with a great script>big blockbuster with an average script any day for me...

 

[grieven]

Just got back from the movie and think it's not as bad as I was expecting, considering the critic reviews. Definitely, the best action Spider-Man sequences I've ever seen.

My biggest issue with this movie comes with the main villain, Electro. TASM goes out of its way to supposedly "ground" SM with the whole genetic research, DNA, science, background for SM. Hell, even the villains with Harry/Goblin, Rhino, etc. all having some sort of scientific reasoning as for their existence/creation. Then, they throw in the whole Electro bit. His character, creation, & motivation are just horribly written and out of place. I could rant on for hours about how he becomes Electro, alone. Rhino bothered me as well, although moreso at the end.

6/10 for me. I can see how it hit the low 50's on RT...

Yeah, there is a lot to like in TASM2 visually and performance wise, but I can't help but feel that its weaknesses undid some of what I loved about TASM1, which you described about the origin film's grounding and realism.

 

[Angryfantasyfan]

I'd love for there to be a nice, compact Spider-Man movie. On dedicated to say Kraven so that it can remain grounded and focus less on spectacle and more on hand to hand fighting. Which we hardly ever get to see lol

Are you thinking along the lines of Kraven's Last Hunt or The Most Dangerous Game?

 

[Tony Stark]

OK here's my review, and thinking about it, it's pretty generous.

First off, this film is a mess. Just a complete jumbling of all kinds of things, that it even makes it hard to write a review of this film.

Let me say this, I liked the movie more than Man of Steel, but about the same or less than Thor TDW. It's no where near as good as CA:TWS, or even Iron Man 3.

About the only thing that separates MoS and this film for me is the performance of Garfield and Stone. This film does have a heart mainly because of those two.

What I liked:

Garfield's Spider-man is great even though sometimes the loud mouth New Yorker thing is really obnoxious. He does bring some good laughs, and I love the wise cracks which was really missing from the Raimi films.

[blackout]The death of Gwen was handled very well, pretty much right out of the comics, and I bought it, because of the great chemistry with Garfield and Stone.[/blackout]

The scenes with Peter and Aunt May are pretty touching, I only wish there were more of them.

The action sequences were well done, although I thought some of the bullet time stuff was really obnoxious, but I really loved how Spidey looked in this and the fighting scenes.


What I didn't like:

THE SCORE SUCKS!!!! Can I say that again for any Zimmer fanboys out there? THIS IS THE WORST SCORE IN THIS GENRE OF FILMS!

It didn't fit, it stuck out like a sore thumb, the stupid dubstep for electro was obnoxious (yes I know that electricity causes harmonic frequencies, I get what they were trying to do, but it doesn't make it any less obnoxious)

This should pretty much end any discussion of how great Zimmer is. He's done some good work in the past, probably Pirates of the Caribbean being the pinnacle of his work, but this was terrible, and I very much enjoyed Horner's work on the last film.

Electro had no story here. It felt disjointed out of place. The stupid fan servicing of Alistair Smythe who had no point. Even some of the effects were lame, like how he looked transporting himself through the grid. It's like they were trying to outdo Sandman.

The Harry Osbourne story was forced. I never bought his and Peter's friendship. This was a shell of what Franco did in the Raimi films. His hatred of Spider-man felt forced, none of it made sense.

Most importantly I still don't give a damn about the story of Peter's parents and ultimately this is where this film franchise fails and where the Raimi's film shine. Peter is Spider-man out of guilt for what happened to Uncle Ben. In this film there is not one shred of regret or responsibility for what happened to Uncle Ben. He's more upset about Captain Stacey than he is about the Unlce that was his fault that he died. If this franchise dies this is the sole reason.

Having said all that, this film for me was saved by Garfield and Stone, and the last 5 minutes of the film. Just when you thought the director and writers completely forgot what Spider-man is all about they somewhat redeem themselves in the last 5 minutes. Which makes you wonder where in the hell they were for the other parts of the script that were irrelevant.

Having said that, I'm giving it a 7/10 only for Garfield and Stone, and because this is much, much better than the previous film which for me is a 4/10.

 

[Serpico Jones]

Here's my opinion on a few things after just having watched the movie:

-Garfield and Stone are much better than Maguire and Dunst. I've always felt Maguire was a limp dick actor.

-The cgi was excellent.

-All of the action scenes were thrilling.

-Jamie Foxx and his character were problematic. It almost felt like a different director came in and handled his scenes. Some of his scenes are absolutely awful.

-Sally Field is great and shares one of the best scenes of the entire movie with Garfield.

-The Kafka character is awful.

-Dane DeHaan was ok. His Goblin makeup leaved a bit to be desired (it looks like a pigeon took a crap on his head) but he still looks better than the pathetic Power Rangers getup from the first film.

Although it has a few problems I personally thought the movie was good but I should mention that I am in no way a fan of the Raimi films.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

OK here's my review, and thinking about it, it's pretty generous.

First off, this film is a mess. Just a complete jumbling of all kinds of things, that it even makes it hard to write a review of this film.

Let me say this, I liked the movie more than Man of Steel, but about the same or less than Thor TDW. It's no where near as good as CA:TWS, or even Iron Man 3.

About the only thing that separates MoS and this film for me is the performance of Garfield and Stone. This film does have a heart mainly because of those two.

What I liked:

Garfield's Spider-man is great even though sometimes the loud mouth New Yorker thing is really obnoxious. He does bring some good laughs, and I love the wise cracks which was really missing from the Raimi films.

[blackout]The death of Gwen was handled very well, pretty much right out of the comics, and I bought it, because of the great chemistry with Garfield and Stone.[/blackout]

The scenes with Peter and Aunt May are pretty touching, I only wish there were more of them.

The action sequences were well done, although I thought some of the bullet time stuff was really obnoxious, but I really loved how Spidey looked in this and the fighting scenes.


What I didn't like:

THE SCORE SUCKS!!!! Can I say that again for any Zimmer fanboys out there? THIS IS THE WORST SCORE IN THIS GENRE OF FILMS!

It didn't fit, it stuck out like a sore thumb, the stupid dubstep for electro was obnoxious (yes I know that electricity causes harmonic frequencies, I get what they were trying to do, but it doesn't make it any less obnoxious)

This should pretty much end any discussion of how great Zimmer is. He's done some good work in the past, probably Pirates of the Caribbean being the pinnacle of his work, but this was terrible, and I very much enjoyed Horner's work on the last film.

Electro had no story here. It felt disjointed out of place. The stupid fan servicing of Alistair Smythe who had no point. Even some of the effects were lame, like how he looked transporting himself through the grid. It's like they were trying to outdo Sandman.

The Harry Osbourne story was forced. I never bought his and Peter's friendship. This was a shell of what Franco did in the Raimi films. His hatred of Spider-man felt forced, none of it made sense.

Most importantly I still don't give a damn about the story of Peter's parents and ultimately this is where this film franchise fails and where the Raimi's film shine. Peter is Spider-man out of guilt for what happened to Uncle Ben. In this film there is not one shred of regret or responsibility for what happened to Uncle Ben. He's more upset about Captain Stacey than he is about the Unlce that was his fault that he died. If this franchise dies this is the sole reason.

Having said all that, this film for me was saved by Garfield and Stone, and the last 5 minutes of the film. Just when you thought the director and writers completely forgot what Spider-man is all about they somewhat redeem themselves in the last 5 minutes. Which makes you wonder where in the hell they were for the other parts of the script that were irrelevant.

Having said that, I'm giving it a 7/10 only for Garfield and Stone, and because this is much, much better than the previous film which for me is a 4/10.

Nice review and I like the points that you've made. 7/10 is a pretty good score considering it seems the majority of your review was putting the film in a negative light. Not saying your review is bad, cause I liked it, just saying after reading that I was expecting your score to be lower.

 

[TeeKay]

The score was great imo.t:

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Here's my opinion on a few things after just having watched the movie:

-Garfield and Stone are much better than Maguire and Dunst. I've always felt Maguire was a limp dick actor.

-The cgi was excellent.

-All of the action scenes were thrilling.

-Jamie Foxx and his character were problematic. It almost felt like a different director came in and handled his scenes. Some of his scenes are absolutely awful.

-Sally Field is great and shares one of the best scenes of the entire movie with Garfield.

-The Kafka character is awful.

-Dane DeHaan was ok. His Goblin makeup leaved a bit to be desired (it looks like a pigeon took a crap on his head) but he still looks better than the pathetic Power Rangers getup from the first film.

Although it has a few problems I personally thought the movie was good but I should mention that I am in no way a fan of the Raimi films.

What does this have to do with ASM2?

 

[Joe_Kickass]

Are you thinking along the lines of Kraven's Last Hunt or The Most Dangerous Game?

Sure. Mysterio would be cool too, but I'd also see him as being a pretty difficult villian to translate to the big screen. Trying to explain all of his special effects and everything without making it seem too out there.

Also, making him a threat towards Spider-Man could prove to be challenging without turning him into a Scarecrow type character, because the second Spidey realizes that it's just smoke and mirrors, then he shouldn't really be too unnerved by him.

Only thing I could think of is having Mysterio found out Spidey's identity and creating some sort of simulator or something causes Spider-Man to relieve the worst moments in his life. That could work in a reboot as well, show everything that he had experienced, including Gwen's death if necessary.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

The score was great imo.t:

Have you listened to the soundtrack on its own? Cause I've heard that it actually sounds better on the cd and the cuts they used for the movie didn't mesh well. I've been listening to the score on cd and I really like a good bunch of the tracks, minus the Spidey theme, mostly.

 

[TeeKay]

Have you listened to the soundtrack on its own? Cause I've heard that it actually sounds better on the cd and the cuts they used for the movie didn't mesh well. I've been listening to the score on cd and I really like a good bunch of the tracks, minus the Spidey theme, mostly.

Yeah I have, I think the Electro dubsteb was a bit much but overall it was a huge improvement over Horner's score. Love the new Spidey theme.t:

 

[Joe_Kickass]

I could just imagine. Kraven takes some of that natural potion/serum that he concocts in the comics to improve his strength, and also developes a toxin that blocks Spidey's spider sense. They meet up at say, the New York Zoo or Central Park at night. Kraven manages to break both Spidey's webshooters, and now they have to fight each other in hand to hand combat at night. God, that would be so good.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Sure. Mysterio would be cool too, but I'd also see him as being a pretty difficult villian to translate to the big screen. Trying to explain all of his special effects and everything without making it seem too out there.

Also, making him a threat towards Spider-Man could prove to be challenging without turning him into a Scarecrow type character, because the second Spidey realizes that it's just smoke and mirrors, then he shouldn't really be too unnerved by him.

Only thing I could think of is having Mysterio found out Spidey's identity and creating some sort of simulator or something causes Spider-Man to relieve the worst moments in his life. That could work in a reboot as well, show everything that he had experienced, including Gwen's death if necessary.

I could easily make Mysterio a threat. You just need him to be a psychological one and toy with his mind!

 

[Hunter Rider]

I could easily make Mysterio a threat. You just need him to be a psychological one and toy with his mind!

Agreed, he has potential to be a very creative villain, he just needs a costume redesign.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Agreed, he has potential to be a very creative villain, he just needs a costume redesign.

Big time. I would have a blast working with him!

 

[Bullseye1]

Daft Punk design might work with Mysterio.

 

[Par Avion]

Here's the thing...the TASM faithful are hypocrites not for preferring one brand of cheese over the other, but for their attitudes in the buildup to this film over the last couple years.

What was the rhetoric after the first movie came out? That the more grounded, less campy tone was perfect for Spider-Man, and then in came the exaggerated ridicule about how the cheese ruined the previous trilogy. You guys acted as if your preference in movies was more mature and on some higher echelon of film tier, and that camp & cheese was beneath you. Yet when this movie breaks, and proves to be the most ridiculous of all the Spidey films, you defend it to the hilt.

That's inconsistent to me. Sure, you can prefer one brand of cheese over the other, but back then, the prevailing, snooty little attitude was more along the lines of "I hate cheese in all its forms, not just Raimi cheese".

I've said before that this movie jumped the shark for its various inconsistencies and blunders, but now, I'll also say that the fans jumped the shark right along with it. A lot of what I'm seeing here proves that some of you will defend anything this franchise puts out unconditionally, and to me, that's a problem. I stepped out for a minute to take care of something and only skimmed the last several replies, but I'm fairly certain I read that someone already decided (and proudly, it seems) that they would love Rhino in the next entry as much as they did in this one. Nice to see that some minds are already made up, but that's very telling about one's mindset. Not to make this an us vs. them thing, but most Raimi fans will at least agree on the problems in that series, but the TASM faithful right now are acting like cultist zealots. This is the sort of thing I see from the Man of Steel diehards, who swear by the gods that their movie, as glaringly flawed as it was, is the best thing to ever grace the silver screen. Richard Donner be damned.

Sad to see some of my fellow Spider-Man fans sink to those levels, but I guess it's just a sign of the times. I've noticed that in the last two years or so, fans in general have become a lot more defensive about these properties...it's as if everyone has a phobia of admitting that they like a sub-par movie, so they go into attack mode during the fallout. I sincerely believe that if Green Lantern was released today, it would have a cultist defensive barricade not unlike that of this movie and Man of Steel, and I'm sure I'd see a handful of members calling it the best genre film ever in their sigs...until the inevitable sequel, anyway.

Brilliant observation concerning the backpedalling and revisionism that goes on with the "fans" around here. Unconditionally loving anything that's shoveled out is right! It was clear from the daily declarations from certain posters indicating that they were positive that they would love the film "despite it's shortcomings"- without having even seen the film.

And I have to agree that there does seem to be a sort of proud ignorance that often accompanies these posts.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Big time. I would have a blast working with him!

You need to make a Mysterio thread!

Daft Punk design might work with Mysterio.

Good call!

 

[The Joker]

My review

Spoiler

It's uneven as all hell...it wants to be both a silly comic book movie from 10 or maybe 20 years ago AND wants to have a decent human story. It's Batman Forever and Spider-Man 3 all over again. Also this movie is filled with conveniences. Sh**the fact Oscorp is now a super villain factory is already enough. Then you have the stuff with Peter's parents and it just trickles down. Also I dunno how many pointed it out but holy crap nobody gave a single sh** for Uncle Ben. It was bad enough in the first Amazing Spider-Man and with this, he was less than a cameo. With the things that improved from the first film was Spider-Man and his quips and a somewhat better relationship of Gwen and Peter. Aunt May was so much better as well. Some of the action was better, the Times Square scene was easily the best part but how it came about was hilariously stupid. Overall it's better than the first Amazing Spider-Man (mostly because it wasn't boring), but it's on the level of Spider-Man 3.

6/10

Great review

 

[Par Avion]

Everything about the pacing/tone of this film felt rushed, pieced together and scattershot. Many of the same problems that TASM had are present here as well (fuzzy internal logic, inconsistent characters, etc.). That said, it was a vastly better than TASM. The performances were all excellent (to the degree that they were allowed to be). Andrew and Emma were great for the most part (seems to be the consensus), and the goblin design didn't bother me nearly as much as I thought it would- just wish there was more of the character and more of a reason for me to care about his actions/the results of his actions.