The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man: Box Office Thread - Part 1

[Joe_Kickass]

Wait...so some people actually believe Spider-Man is only about action?
SPIDER-MAN? The superhero who's primary draw is in fact his regular self, not his super hero identity? Wow...just wow...

 

[spider-neil]

Wait...so some people actually believe Spider-Man is only about action?
SPIDER-MAN? The superhero who's primary draw is in fact his regular self, not his super hero identity? Wow...just wow...

To be fair, Spidey is part of the superhero genre and action is expected in a superhero movie (for right or wrong). I like Ang Lee's Hulk but loads of people hate it as it's a genre movie with no action.

 

[El Payaso]

To be fair, Spidey is part of the superhero genre and action is expected in a superhero movie (for right or wrong). I like Ang Lee's Hulk but loads of people hate it as it's a genre movie with no action.

That had more action than TIH.

 

[El Payaso]

IMO, the only thing SM2 has over BB, is Doc Ock and the Epic train battle.

All the action is better.

For me it's Iron Man, SM2 close to it, then Batman Begins, then SM1.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

To be fair, Spidey is part of the superhero genre and action is expected in a superhero movie (for right or wrong). I like Ang Lee's Hulk but loads of people hate it as it's a genre movie with no action.

But...all of the movies have had action. That's not the primary focus though.
It's like fourth. Characters>Drama>Romance>Action>Comedy>Horror>Bruce Campbell>Sex. Which has never been in a Spider-Man movie btw. That was for the Raimi trilogy. Scratch off the last two for TASM. Action is a given, but if your main complaint is that it isn't the focus or that a fight scene doesn't happen every 10-15 minutes, then you have the wrong expectations.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

That had more action than TIH.

True dat.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Not morons,its their opinion

Moronic opinions. Needless to say, though, that I still don't believe any reviewers even said that.

I like action but that doesnt mean I would want mindless action.The only reason I watched transformers was Megan Fox,still havent watched the latest one
Action with a good plot is my way to go,SM1 and 2 are perfect examples of what I want

Action with a good plot is definitely the way to go for a CBM, but I've always been a fan of a mesmerizing plot if it calls for less action sequences, such as BB and TDK.

And I loved TASM in the 1st hour and 15 minutes aswell,it went downhill after the Lizard showed up.
I have said this in another thread,first 75 minutes of TASM is the best first starting 75 minutes of any CB origin movie

Again, we disagree, lol. It's not even the best Spider-Man origin as the '02 has TAS-M beat, but the very best origin film to date is Batman Begins, then Iron Man. But, yes, TAS-M was quite enjoyable until Lizard showed up and then it became a dumbed down story of a villain wanting to infect civilians where Lizard didn't even become close to being a memorable villain.

Maybe people arent used to seeing high thinking plots and subplots in a comic book movie

Well, yah. For years we never received a THOUGHTFUL CBM that relied on depth rather than action.

No way is BB better than SM2. NO CHANCE, and I just watched BB this weekend. To be honest I rate SM, SM2 and ASM above BB. A very overrated movie that is boring as all heck in the 3rd act.

BB > S-M 1

TDK > S-M 2

And...TDKR will be better than S-M 3

Again...BB being overrated? We hear enough of people saying TDK is, and now BB is overrated as well? I think that's just hate, imo.

TDK gets full marks for act 1 and 2 and then the weak 3rd act loses it points 9/10
TDK peaks when Joker breaks out of jail.

So the movie peaked before Two-Face even shows up? Yah...right...

 

[Jexx]

I personally like Iron Man more than Batman Begins..

I also like TASM better than Spider-Man '02.

People have different opinions, I don't think that you can call the general consensus fact.

 

[spider-neil]

Moronic opinions. Needless to say, though, that I still don't believe any reviewers even said that.



Action with a good plot is definitely the way to go for a CBM, but I've always been a fan of a mesmerizing plot if it calls for less action sequences, such as BB and TDK.



Again, we disagree, lol. It's not even the best Spider-Man origin as the '02 has TAS-M beat, but the very best origin film to date is Batman Begins, then Iron Man. But, yes, TAS-M was quite enjoyable until Lizard showed up and then it became a dumbed down story of a villain wanting to infect civilians where Lizard didn't even become close to being a memorable villain.



Well, yah. For years we never received a THOUGHTFUL CBM that relied on depth rather than action.



BB > S-M 1

TDK > S-M 2

And...TDKR will be better than S-M 3

Again...BB being overrated? We hear enough of people saying TDK is, and now BB is overrated as well? I think that's just hate, imo.



So the movie peaked before Two-Face even shows up? Yah...right...

Yes. Two-Face is Bat S*** crazy. Why? Because he lost his girlfriend and his looks, but in act 1 and act 2 the movie is at pains to establish he is Gothem's up standing citizen. So how did he get so nuts? 'oh, just 'because'. Whatever, I was checked out of TDK for the 3rd act and the movie could have shaved off as much as half and hour and it wouldn't have harmed the narrative one iota. The cartoon does a much better job of establishing Two-Face.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Yes. Two-Face is Bat S*** crazy. Why? Because he lost his girlfriend and his looks, but in act 1 and act 2 the movie is at pains to establish he is Gothem's up standing citizen. So how did he get so nuts? 'oh, just 'because'. Whatever, I was checked out of TDK for the 3rd act and the movie could have shaved off as much as half and hour and it wouldn't have harmed the narrative one iota. The cartoon does a much better job of establishing Two-Face.

TDK's Two-Face isn't really nuts at all. He just wants answers on why Rachel died. That doesn't seem crazy at all; he was a much more sane Two-Face than what we are used to.

 

[spider-neil]

TDK's Two-Face isn't really nuts at all. He just wants answers on why Rachel died. That doesn't seem crazy at all; he was a much more sane Two-Face than what we are used to.

He is going around blowing people away at the flip of coin, if it were criminals I could go with it but he threatens Gordon's family and is fully prepared to blow a child away. Isn't really nuts? If you say so.

 

[Anno_Domini]

He is going around blowing people away at the flip of coin, if it were criminals I could go with it but he threatens Gordon's family and is fully prepared to blow a child away. Isn't really nuts? If you say so.

His loved one just died. I would say Dent just got into an aggressive sense of depression, but not really "nuts".

 

[spider-neil]

His loved one just died. I would say Dent just got into an aggressive sense of depression, but not really "nuts".

People can view it how they like, it's their choice. But personally speaking, I thought the character change of Dent to TF was way too abrupt and jarring and I wasn't as engaged in act 3 as I was in act 1 and 2. What others choose to take away from TDK is their choice but that's how I saw it.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Two-Face is far more insane in TDK than he is in The Long Halloween, which is considered to be THE Two-Face story.

In it he only goes after specifically those that had wronged him (Falcone and his own traitorous assistant) and then surrenders once he's done killing them.

For the record, I think the last act of TDK is the best part of the movie. I absolutely love it.

 

[Spiderdevil]

Wait...so some people actually believe Spider-Man is only about action?
SPIDER-MAN? The superhero who's primary draw is in fact his regular self, not his super hero identity? Wow...just wow...

It is the main reason why this isnt earning as much as Riami's movies

Lets get real,non comic book lovers dont watch Spider man movies for character development and drama

 

[Spiderdevil]

but I've always been a fan of a mesmerizing plot if it calls for less action sequences, such as BB and TDK.

That only works in a Batman movie,it would never work in a spider man movie

Again, we disagree, lol. It's not even the best Spider-Man origin as the '02 has TAS-M beat, but the very best origin film to date is Batman Begins, then Iron Man.

Its SM1 without a doubt,maybe iron man beats it but BB comes nowhere close

But, yes, TAS-M was quite enjoyable until Lizard showed up and then it became a dumbed down story of a villain wanting to infect civilians where Lizard didn't even become close to being a memorable villain.

Yeah,For me it started going downhill after the dinner with the Stacy's,the character of a Connors wasnt developed properly
One moment he is shocked that Ratha is suggesting to test the formula on Hospital patients and just 15 minutes later he is "**** this ****,Im gonna change the whole city into Lizards'

BB > S-M 1

Balls
SM1 >>> BB

TDK > S-M 2

Yes but by a small margin

And...TDKR will be better than S-M 3

THe difference will be the same as there is between SM1 and BB
Sm3 is very underrated imo,take out the stupid dance scene and the Changed uncle Ben killer subplot and it is a pretty impressive movie

Again...BB being overrated? We hear enough of people saying TDK is, and now BB is overrated as well? I think that's just hate, imo.

TDK is not overrated,BB is
And the reason it is overrated is because TDK did so well

 

[Jexx]

Spiderdevil, accept that he has a different opinion than you and move on.

You guys aren't even debating why one is better than the other, just stating it. So either have a true debate, or move on.

 

[rayc1971]

i thought this was the box office thread? spidey 4.8mill monday is a pretty good hold.i think 275mill domestic is still in reach.

 

[Anno_Domini]

That only works in a Batman movie,it would never work in a spider man movie

Not true. That's one reason why I enjoyed TAS-M so well before the villain even shows up. Nolan slowly started to grab an audience that cared for the story as much or even more than action. X-Men: First Class is a great example of a CBM following suit.

Its SM1 without a doubt,maybe iron man beats it but BB comes nowhere close

Nope, BB is better than Iron Man and S-M when it comes to a near perfect origin film. But alas, we've never had a PERFECT origin film.

Yeah,For me it started going downhill after the dinner with the Stacy's,the character of a Connors wasnt developed properly
One moment he is shocked that Ratha is suggesting to test the formula on Hospital patients and just 15 minutes later he is "**** this ****,Im gonna change the whole city into Lizards'

We definitely agree with this

TAS-M has a great story with emotional depth but lacked a great villain and Lizard could have been a great villain, but the story of the Lizard and what his plan is a downer.

Balls
SM1 >>> BB

No...that would be why someone would say "Balls".

Yes but by a wide margin

Fixed.

THe difference will be the same as there is between SM1 and BB
Sm3 is very underrated imo,take out the stupid dance scene and the Changed uncle Ben killer subplot and it is a pretty impressive movie

Although you can't take out scenes or use your imagination to take the scenes out, so Spider-Man 3 is a horrible and terrible film and really brings down what Sam Raimi tried to do with his Spidey installments.

And yes the difference will be the same with BB and S-M 1 as BB is better than S-M 1

TDK is not overrated,BB is
And the reason it is overrated is because TDK did so well

BB is overrated because of how TDK did? That makes no sense...so, I can say nonsense as well: Spider-Man is overrated because how good Spider-Man 2 was

 

[Jexx]

Please you guys... stop talking about your opinions like their fact..

it makes me a sad panda..

BTW, Anno, I love your avatar (I always think that but forget to tell you)

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

I heard that TASM is making 500 million so far, nearly half a billion already and expected to reach 800 million at the end of it's run.

 

[spider-neil]

I heard that TASM is making 500 million so far, nearly half a billion already and expected to reach 800 million at the end of it's run.

I'll be very surprised if it reaches 800m.

 

[Ajendo]

I'll be surprised if we can go a full page without getting off topic.

That being said, I thought TASM had already crossed the 500M mark already.

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

I'll be very surprised if it reaches 800m.

That's what most are saying it will reach, passing 700 million of course. 800 million for this is pretty much expected. The sequel will bring in the big bucks.

 

[Oscorp]

I just wasn't engaged. To be honest I wasn't really engaged at the end of TDK (or rather I was engaged less) but TDK had given me so much in act 1 and act 2, act 3 gets a 'pass'. To be fair BB has a very strong act 1 and act 2 but I was so bored during the 3rd act I was knocking points off my final score left and right.

IM gets full marks for act 1 and 2 and then the weak 3rd act loses it points 9/10
IM peaks when OS steals Tony's heart.

TDK gets full marks for act 1 and 2 and then the weak 3rd act loses it points 9/10
TDK peaks when Joker breaks out of jail.

BB gets good makes for acts 1 and 2 but I was so bored in act 3 it loses lots of points 7/10
BB peaks with the car chase.

The Dark Knight has a weak third act to you? I guess we simply don't have the same taste at all then because that's to me easily the best part of the film.