The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man: Box Office Thread - Part 1

[Jexx]

Spider-Man*

And isn't that what the first three are?

 

[Jexx]

I like the bulk of them.

I the score :P t:

 

[Juicy J]

LOL they cant even create the perfect Hulk or Thor movie,let alone Perfect spiderman movie
So much for 'Fantastic' track record,all their individual movies except IM1 are average at best,both quality and box office wise

I would be seriously sick if I see a Nick Fury cameo at the end of Spiderman.

Are you... Is this a joke? You have heard of a little movie called the Avengers right?
All 6 of their movies are certified fresh on rotten tomatoes, are more or less adored by the majority of Marvel fans, and range from moderate financial success's to the third biggest movie of all time.
Wow you're right... What a terrible track record

 

[Jexx]

He doesn't even know how to spell 'Spider-Man'...

 

[Iceman]

My point exactly,I would never ever want Spiderman movies to be pop corn flicks

That's exactly what the Spider-man films have been, great popcorn flicks.

 

[Anno_Domini]

I found Daredevil(Directors cut) to be better

While the DC was WAY more enjoyable, it doesn't make up for miscasting such as Jennifer Garner as Elektra.

My point exactly,I would never ever want Spiderman movies to be pop corn flicks

That's all the Spidey films have been.

 

[Spiderdevil]

Are you... Is this a joke? You have heard of a little movie called the Avengers right?

You have heard of a term I used,'Individual movies' right?

All 6 of their movies are certified fresh on rotten tomatoes

You consider that an achievement?
Man,you have really low expectations

are more or less adored by the majority of Marvel fans, and range from moderate financial success's to the third biggest movie of all time.
Wow you're right... What a terrible track record

Barring avengers,most of them are very average box office wise

 

[Spiderdevil]

That's exactly what the Spider-man films have been, great popcorn flicks.

Really?
TASM? Pop corn flick??
All 4 movies have a lot of heart,especially 2 and TASM

 

[Spiderdevil]

While the DC was WAY more enjoyable, it doesn't make up for miscasting such as Jennifer Garner as Elektra.

Why do you think it was a miscast?

I think everything was fine except that the set pieces were terribly edited and the bullseye character wasnt developed properly

That's all the Spidey films have been.

TASM alone has a lot more heart than all 6 MCU movies combined

 

[Juicy J]

Haha I didn't even catch that. 4 out of 4 of the last spider-man films have been the very definition of popcorn movies. So given that and his other ridiculous argument about how the marvel studios films are apparently 'average at best', I still have yet to see anyone give a valid reason why MS shouldn't get their spider-man property back.

Why do you think it was a miscast?

I think everything was fine except that the set pieces were terribly edited and the bullseye character wasnt developed properly

Wait back up how do you edit a set piece? What does that mean?

TASM alone has a lot more heart than all 6 MCU movies combined

Look I loved ASM but it's pretty much undeniable that it can't hold a candle to the avengers, which you seemed to have conveniently forgotten about. One could easily make the argument that MS's other properties have just as much heart as ASM, but it's straight up undeniable that the Avengers isn't just head and shoulders above the spiderman movies but of pretty much all other comic book films as a whole, save for maybe the batman films.

 

[Spiderdevil]

He doesn't even know how to spell 'Spider-Man'...

Big ****ing deal

 

[spider-neil]

Haha I didn't even catch that. 4 out of 4 of the last spider-man films have been the very definition of popcorn movies. So given that and his other ridiculous argument about how the marvel studios films are apparently 'average at best', I still have yet to see anyone give a valid reason why MS shouldn't get their spider-man property back.

Wait back up how do you edit a set piece? What does that mean?




Look I loved ASM but it's pretty much undeniable that it can't hold a candle to the avengers, which you seemed to have conveniently forgotten about. One could easily make the argument that MS's other properties have just as much heart as ASM, but it's straight up undeniable that the Avengers isn't just head and shoulders above the spiderman movies but of pretty much all other comic book films as a whole, save for maybe the batman films.

I saw Avengers and ASM 3 times in theatres and I definately prefer ASM

 

[Juicy J]

You have heard of a term I used,'Individual movies' right?

Movies about the individual character? Is that what that means? There are dozens of clearer ways you couldve said that.

You consider that an achievement?
Man,you have really low expectations

They all got decent to great reviews. Considering how many crappy comic book films have been made, getting 6 out of 6 which more or less knocked it out of the park is quite a feat. Don't see how you can just downplay that.

Barring avengers,most of them are very average box office wise

How can you just dismiss the third biggest movie of all time and still think your argument holds any water?!
Alright, fine we'll play it your way. Counting just the 5 'individual' movies, they have 'individually' made over 2 billion dollars combined.
I dont see anything average about that.
The lowest performing movie, the Hulk, still made profit with 263 million. Not great, obviously, but still enough to make a profit.
Iron man 1 and 2 made 585 million and 625 million worldwide, respectively. Once again: HOW IS THAT AVERAGE?!? That's fantastic money that most franchises would kill to make.
Then you have Thor and Cap which made, respectively, 449 and 368 million. Not iron man money, but still enough to warrant sequels which at the end of the day is how you consider a movie a success or not.
And then you have the box office juggernaut that is the avengers but oh that's right... We're not counting that for some reason
Look you can dislike the MS movies all you want, you're more than entitled to feel that way but to downplay their success is straight ignorance.

I saw Avengers and ASM 3 times in theatres and I definately prefer ASM

Once again, you are more than entitled to your opinion. I thought ASM was fantastic, Im a huuuge spider-man fan and it was pretty much the spider-man movie I've been waiting years for.
But audience reaction, word of mouth from the GA, and box office numbers all show that most people felt that the Avengers was the superior film. You can argue semantics about why you felt ASM was better, but to say which ones a more successful film critically and financially... You already have an answer, just look anywhere on the Internet and see which one is almost universally praised and which one has it's fair share of naysayers.
Once again: I'm not telling you that any of your opinions are wrong or that you shouldn't feel that way. Feel free to disagree with me all you want, I invite an open discussion on that.
But to argue which one is a more successful film is a debate that has a firm answer.

 

[spider-neil]

Box office doesn't = quality

 

[Juicy J]

Box office doesn't = quality

Great reviews and positive word of mouth from audiences do, however. Which, what do you know, the avengers and the other MCU films have in spades.
And the only reason I brought up BO numbers is because he made the claim that the MS films have made 'average at best' money, which is clearly ridiculous.

 

[Iceman]

Really?
TASM? Pop corn flick??
All 4 movies have a lot of heart,especially 2 and TASM

Errr, popcorn flicks can have heart dude. Maybe you're thinking of **** popcorn flicks when you think of popcorn flicks. Not all of them are like Battleship. I think of Top Gun & Jurassic Park as popcorn flicks for eg.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Why do you think it was a miscast?

Because Garner was TERRIBLE as Elektra? Heck, Ben Affleck was more enjoyable and that's saying a lot!

I think everything was fine except that the set pieces were terribly edited and the bullseye character wasnt developed properly

Bullseye's development was much better in the DC though.

TASM alone has a lot more heart than all 6 MCU movies combined

Now you're just pulling my leg. It did not have as much heart as Iron Man or Captain America: The First Avenger.

 

[rayc1971]

Great reviews and positive word of mouth from audiences do, however. Which, what do you know, the avengers and the other MCU films have in spades.
And the only reason I brought up BO numbers is because he made the claim that the MS films have made 'average at best' money, which is clearly ridiculous.

your right that guy is ridiculous the only one marvel didnt hit on was hulk.iron man and thor are not a list heroes and made more than average money!

 

[Jexx]

I actually liked The Avengers, The Amazing Spider-Man, and The Dark Knight Rises equally.

That isn't wrong.. is it?

*rollseyes*

 

[Anno_Domini]

No, but it is wrong when you made 'rolls eyes' one word

 

[Jexx]

Haha..

Also, I'm looking back on it, and I dunno, I may not actually enjoy TDKR as much as the others. I mean, I would rate it either the same or higher, but I don't really enjoy the tone of the Batman Nolanverse, when compared to the Batman Arkhamverse (the games) :/

It's still a great movie, I just like the tones of the other super-hero flicks more.

 

[Juicy J]

I'll agree with that. Fantastic movies, well made pieces of cinema, just not a huge fan of the overall tone of the Nolan films.
And that's not a jab or a snooty remark necessarily, I like them for what they are. I just recognize its not something I'm as passionate about, much like many other people don't like the MS studios as much as I do (which is a lot, I don't know if you can tell).
Diversity makes the world go round folks.

 

[spider-neil]

This summer has been incredible for superhero movies.
Avengers
ASM
TDKR

I've loved all three movies and all 3 are day one Blu ray purchases. If I have to put them in order of enjoyement it would be;
1. TDKR
2. ASM
3. Avengers

I simply cannot see 2013 topping this year; IM 3, Thor 2, MoS

 

[grieven]

Look I loved ASM but it's pretty much undeniable that it can't hold a candle to the avengers, which you seemed to have conveniently forgotten about. One could easily make the argument that MS's other properties have just as much heart as ASM, but it's straight up undeniable that the Avengers isn't just head and shoulders above the spiderman movies but of pretty much all other comic book films as a whole, save for maybe the batman films.

I'll deny ASM can't hold a candle to Avengers. Avengers blows ASM away in terms of boxoffice, and if that's what you meant nobody can deny that. But as far as heart, there's tons more in ASM than Avengers. The only supposed emotional investment in Avengers is when Coulson dies, and it barely registered on my emotional meter. In ASM, I was on an emotional roller coaster with Peter from the heartbreak of Uncle Ben's death to the excitement of young love.

I liked Avengers and TDK, but personally like ASM over both, and know a few people who feel the same. I know we're in the minority on that, but I hardly think it's undeniable that Avengers (or TDK) is superior over ASM except in how much money it made. Otherwise it's a matter of opinion.

 

[Spiderdevil]

Haha I didn't even catch that. 4 out of 4 of the last spider-man films have been the very definition of popcorn movies.

Whats you definition of popcorn movies?

So given that and his other ridiculous argument about how the marvel studios films are apparently 'average at best', I still have yet to see anyone give a valid reason why MS shouldn't get their spider-man property back.

All they care about is making Avengers rather than good individual movies,And avengers really is Transformers with superheros,plain and simple

Wait back up how do you edit a set piece? What does that mean?

Look at the church battle,the points where they are jumping throught the air looks really bad,as if they are floating or something.And also the way DD is dodging Bullseye's projectiles

Look I loved ASM but it's pretty much undeniable that it can't hold a candle to the avengers,

So you compare an origin movie to a movie which has 5 movies behind it and has been hyped on for almost 5 years.Well done
I enjoyed Avengers aswell,but the movie has no heart,no emotion.Its a kids action movie
The Villian never gets beaten up to a pulp so easily in a well grounded movie,did we see spidey do anything like that to Lizard??

but it's straight up undeniable that the Avengers isn't just head and shoulders above the spiderman movies but of pretty much all other comic book films as a whole, save for maybe the batman films.

SM1 and SM2 are as much comparable to it as Batfilms

And you have totally missed my point,Spider Man is my favourite superhero.All I want is that he should look good in his individual movies,not in a team of other superheros
And Sony has proven that they make better Individual superhero movies than Marvel