Sorry, but you two couldn't be more wrong. The Amazing Spider-Man, very much like Batman Begins back in 2005, it's a reboot of a superhero franchise. And as a reboot of a superhero franchise, it's set to become the highest grossing reboot of all time.
Let's take a look at the numbers.
1. The Amazing Spider-Man (2012): $614,611,425 WW (3rd weekend)
2. Iron Man 2 (2010): $623,933,331 WW
3. Iron Man (2008): $585,174,222 WW
4. Thor (2011): $449,326,618
5. Captain America: First Avenger (2011): $368,608,363
6. The Incredible Hulk (2008): $263,427,551
So taking in context with his fellow Marvel Films, The Amazing Spider-Man is bound to keep the crown as the highest grossing solo Marvel superhero. The only Marvel property based on Marvel characters that made more than any other Spider-Man film is The Avengers, which is an assemble never done before kind of superhero film.
Now if we look to the other reboots:
1. The Amazing Spider-Man (2012): Domestic $228,611,425 + Foreign $386,000,000 = $614,611,425 WW (3rd weekend)
2. Star Trek (2009): Domestic $257,730,019 + Foreign $127,950,427 = $385,680,446 WW
3. Batman Begins (2005): Domestic $205,343,774 + Foreign $167,366,241 = $372,710,015 WW
4. Rise of the Planet of the Apes (2011): Domestic $176,760,185 + Foreign $305,040,68 = $481,800,873 WW
5. Cassino Royale (2006): Domestic $167,445,960 + Foreign $426,793,106 = $594,239,066 WW
6. X-Men First Class = Domestic $146,408,305 + Foreign $207,215,819 = $353,624,124
Even though the foreign grosses counting isn't how Bruce Malone quoted from an article some pages ago, The Amazing Spider-Man still comes up on the road of becoming the highest grossing reboot of all time, topping Star Trek in domestic grossings and with a far more profitable foreign grossing.
So let's see:
Still biggest solo superhero Marvel solo franchise: Check
Biggest box office reboot of all time: Check
Successfully making a reboot that pleases new and old fans: Check
Unlike you two have posted, neither Iron Man 1 and 2 were bigger successes than The Amazing Spider-Man or the purpose of a reboot is to make more than its previous film. The purpose of a reboot is to get a franchise back in a position of being profitable again. The Amazing Spider-Man achieves that in spades, and it has still a shot of topping Spider-Man 2 WW grosses, which is $783,766,341. And even if doesn't top that, I have a feeling that just like Batman Begins compared to TDK, the sequel will benefit from a huge jump in the grosses. So yeah, my point is that Sony not only managed to make the second best superhero film of the year and best Spider-Man film yet, The Amazing Spider-Man is a winner.
And I pity those who rooted against it. The Dark Knight Rises seems that will have FAR MORE problems to break even without blu-ray sales than The Amazing Spider-Man ever will.
It has been an incredible summer for superhero movies indeed, and like you I'll be purchasing the blu ray releases of all of them. With that said, I can't deny how disappointed I am with TDKR. For all the talk of Best Picture nominations, I was ready to see The Amazing Spider-Man as 3rd and The Avengers as 2nd best superhero film of the year. Instead I'm rating them like this:
1. The Avengers 10/10
2. The Amazing Spider-Man 9.5/10
3. The Dark Knight Rises 4/10
I'm still thankful to Nolan for two of the best Batman films ever though.
Sorry, but you two couldn't be more wrong. The Amazing Spider-Man, very much like Batman Begins back in 2005, it's a reboot of a superhero franchise. And as a reboot of a superhero franchise, it's set to become the highest grossing reboot of all time.
Let's take a look at the numbers.
1. The Amazing Spider-Man (2012): $614,611,425 WW (3rd weekend)
2. Iron Man 2 (2010): $623,933,331 WW
3. Iron Man (2008): $585,174,222 WW
4. Thor (2011): $449,326,618
5. Captain America: First Avenger (2011): $368,608,363
6. The Incredible Hulk (2008): $263,427,551
So taking in context with his fellow Marvel Films, The Amazing Spider-Man is bound to keep the crown as the highest grossing solo Marvel superhero. The only Marvel property based on Marvel characters that made more than any other Spider-Man film is The Avengers, which is an assemble never done before kind of superhero film.
Now if we look to the other reboots:
1. The Amazing Spider-Man (2012): Domestic $228,611,425 + Foreign $386,000,000 = $614,611,425 WW (3rd weekend)
2. Star Trek (2009): Domestic $257,730,019 + Foreign $127,950,427 = $385,680,446 WW
3. Batman Begins (2005): Domestic $205,343,774 + Foreign $167,366,241 = $372,710,015 WW
4. Rise of the Planet of the Apes (2011): Domestic $176,760,185 + Foreign $305,040,68 = $481,800,873 WW
5. Cassino Royale (2006): Domestic $167,445,960 + Foreign $426,793,106 = $594,239,066 WW
6. X-Men First Class = Domestic $146,408,305 + Foreign $207,215,819 = $353,624,124
Even though the foreign grosses counting isn't how Bruce Malone quoted from an article some pages ago, The Amazing Spider-Man still comes up on the road of becoming the highest grossing reboot of all time, topping Star Trek in domestic grossings and with a far more profitable foreign grossing.
So let's see:
Still biggest solo superhero Marvel solo franchise: Check
Biggest box office reboot of all time: Check
Successfully making a reboot that pleases new and old fans: Check
Unlike you two have posted, neither Iron Man 1 and 2 were bigger successes than The Amazing Spider-Man or the purpose of a reboot is to make more than its previous film. The purpose of a reboot is to get a franchise back in a position of being profitable again. The Amazing Spider-Man achieves that in spades, and it has still a shot of topping Spider-Man 2 WW grosses, which is $783,766,341. And even if doesn't top that, I have a feeling that just like Batman Begins compared to TDK, the sequel will benefit from a huge jump in the grosses. So yeah, my point is that Sony not only managed to make the second best superhero film of the year and best Spider-Man film yet, The Amazing Spider-Man is a winner.
And I pity those who rooted against it. The Dark Knight Rises seems that will have FAR MORE problems to break even without blu-ray sales than The Amazing Spider-Man ever will.
It has been an incredible summer for superhero movies indeed, and like you I'll be purchasing the blu ray releases of all of them. With that said, I can't deny how disappointed I am with TDKR. For all the talk of Best Picture nominations, I was ready to see The Amazing Spider-Man as 3rd and The Avengers as 2nd best superhero film of the year.
I'm still thankful to Nolan for two of the best Batman films ever though.
Aloha,
I like your thinking.
Spidey rules
Well said!
Err.. Pedro, I don't mind you disliking TDKR, but it got 160 mil opening weekend, I don't see how it'll have problems breaking even.
Haha Amazing Spiderman WW numbers are 616 million
Sorry, but you two couldn't be more wrong. The Amazing Spider-Man, very much like Batman Begins back in 2005, it's a reboot of a superhero franchise. And as a reboot of a superhero franchise, it's set to become the highest grossing reboot of all time.
Let's take a look at the numbers.
1. The Amazing Spider-Man (2012): $614,611,425 WW (3rd weekend)
2. Iron Man 2 (2010): $623,933,331 WW
3. Iron Man (2008): $585,174,222 WW
4. Thor (2011): $449,326,618
5. Captain America: First Avenger (2011): $368,608,363
6. The Incredible Hulk (2008): $263,427,551
So taking in context with his fellow Marvel Films, The Amazing Spider-Man is bound to keep the crown as the highest grossing solo Marvel superhero. The only Marvel property based on Marvel characters that made more than any other Spider-Man film is The Avengers, which is an assemble never done before kind of superhero film.
Now if we look to the other reboots:
1. The Amazing Spider-Man (2012): Domestic $228,611,425 + Foreign $386,000,000 = $614,611,425 WW (3rd weekend)
2. Star Trek (2009): Domestic $257,730,019 + Foreign $127,950,427 = $385,680,446 WW
3. Batman Begins (2005): Domestic $205,343,774 + Foreign $167,366,241 = $372,710,015 WW
4. Rise of the Planet of the Apes (2011): Domestic $176,760,185 + Foreign $305,040,68 = $481,800,873 WW
5. Cassino Royale (2006): Domestic $167,445,960 + Foreign $426,793,106 = $594,239,066 WW
6. X-Men First Class = Domestic $146,408,305 + Foreign $207,215,819 = $353,624,124
Even though the foreign grosses counting isn't how Bruce Malone quoted from an article some pages ago, The Amazing Spider-Man still comes up on the road of becoming the highest grossing reboot of all time, topping Star Trek in domestic grossings and with a far more profitable foreign grossing.
So let's see:
Still biggest solo superhero Marvel solo franchise: Check
Biggest box office reboot of all time: Check
Successfully making a reboot that pleases new and old fans: Check
Unlike you two have posted, neither Iron Man 1 and 2 were bigger successes than The Amazing Spider-Man or the purpose of a reboot is to make more than its previous film. The purpose of a reboot is to get a franchise back in a position of being profitable again. The Amazing Spider-Man achieves that in spades, and it has still a shot of topping Spider-Man 2 WW grosses, which is $783,766,341. And even if doesn't top that, I have a feeling that just like Batman Begins compared to TDK, the sequel will benefit from a huge jump in the grosses. So yeah, my point is that Sony not only managed to make the second best superhero film of the year and best Spider-Man film yet, The Amazing Spider-Man is a winner.
And I pity those who rooted against it. The Dark Knight Rises seems that will have FAR MORE problems to break even without blu-ray sales than The Amazing Spider-Man ever will.
It has been an incredible summer for superhero movies indeed, and like you I'll be purchasing the blu ray releases of all of them. With that said, I can't deny how disappointed I am with TDKR. For all the talk of Best Picture nominations, I was ready to see The Amazing Spider-Man as 3rd and The Avengers as 2nd best superhero film of the year. Instead I'm rating them like this:
1. The Avengers 10/10
2. The Amazing Spider-Man 9.5/10
3. The Dark Knight Rises 4/10
I'm still thankful to Nolan for two of the best Batman films ever though.
Batman's done,there wont be a batman movie for another 10 years
As for Avengers,I dont think Avengers 2 will come out untill 2016
Which means that it made back it's domestic budget. But barely.
Err, ten years? Doubtful. Warner Brothers are already thinking about the reboot.
And isn't Avengers 2 coming out in 2015?
Which means that it made back it's domestic budget. But barely.
Which means that it made back it's domestic budget. But barely.
Maybe he was alluding to 616, which is the number for the mainstream comic universe.I think he was alluding to the '616' part, which along with 666 is considered the number of the devil.
Well, I definitely enjoyed this post expect for the bold, haha. TDKR, to me, was the better of the three(with Avengers at 2 and TAS-M at 3) and TDKR SHOULD still be nominated for Best Film. It was that good.
Sorry, but you two couldn't be more wrong. The Amazing Spider-Man, very much like Batman Begins back in 2005, it's a reboot of a superhero franchise. And as a reboot of a superhero franchise, it's set to become the highest grossing reboot of all time.
Let's take a look at the numbers.
1. The Amazing Spider-Man (2012): $614,611,425 WW (3rd weekend)
2. Iron Man 2 (2010): $623,933,331 WW
3. Iron Man (2008): $585,174,222 WW
4. Thor (2011): $449,326,618
5. Captain America: First Avenger (2011): $368,608,363
6. The Incredible Hulk (2008): $263,427,551
So taking in context with his fellow Marvel Films, The Amazing Spider-Man is bound to keep the crown as the highest grossing solo Marvel superhero. The only Marvel property based on Marvel characters that made more than any other Spider-Man film is The Avengers, which is an assemble never done before kind of superhero film.
Now if we look to the other reboots:
1. The Amazing Spider-Man (2012): Domestic $228,611,425 + Foreign $386,000,000 = $614,611,425 WW (3rd weekend)
2. Star Trek (2009): Domestic $257,730,019 + Foreign $127,950,427 = $385,680,446 WW
3. Batman Begins (2005): Domestic $205,343,774 + Foreign $167,366,241 = $372,710,015 WW
4. Rise of the Planet of the Apes (2011): Domestic $176,760,185 + Foreign $305,040,68 = $481,800,873 WW
5. Cassino Royale (2006): Domestic $167,445,960 + Foreign $426,793,106 = $594,239,066 WW
6. X-Men First Class = Domestic $146,408,305 + Foreign $207,215,819 = $353,624,124
Even though the foreign grosses counting isn't how Bruce Malone quoted from an article some pages ago, The Amazing Spider-Man still comes up on the road of becoming the highest grossing reboot of all time, topping Star Trek in domestic grossings and with a far more profitable foreign grossing.
And even if doesn't top that, I have a feeling that just like Batman Begins compared to TDK, the sequel will benefit from a huge jump in the grosses.
and tasm isnt a critical failure either. Most critics gave it favorable reviews. The GA thought it was good aswell. This is just like batman begins and casino royale all over again on the shh forums. Everything is a tad exaggerated and nitpicked. We are going to get a sequel and it will make more than its predecessor. Tasm3 is what im worried about.Adjusting WW numbers for inflation and taking production budgets in account would probably help for a better comparision.
Then again, considering TASM's production budget and the fact that the studio will only get between 10% & 15% of it's overseas gross makes the movie a lot less profitable than the two Iron Man movie wich both made more than 300 millions domestically (and were produced for under 200 millions)
Then again you should have adjusted the numbers. None of those reboots had expensive 3D showings to help. And none of them was produced for more than 200 millions. And considering that terrible 10 millions (-68%) 3rd week-end I have yet to see TASM's topping Star Trek. And even though that may very well happen, except for James Bond with the financially successful but poorly received Die Another Day, none of those franchise can fairly be compared to Spider-Man. Batman was pretty much dead before Batman Begins, the last Star Trek movie to gross over 100 millions domestically was released back in 1986. And yet Casino Royale managed to make more money than any of its predecessors. That's pleasing old an new fans while TASM is a massive step back in ticket sales from the Raimi trilogy.
Finally if The Hollywood Economist is wrong, maybe you can enlighten us as to how much studios take in from overseas revenue.
First off, TASM was nowhere near as well received as Batman Begins was back in 2008.
Secondly, And if Sony keeps on heavily interfering with the creative crew during the production process (numbers suggest they will), I highly doubt that a "TDK quality" sequel is even possible. And without a huge buzz, those numbers (500 millions and more domestically) are just unreachable.
I just can't see TDKR being nominated for best picture. If TDK didn't get it, there's just no way TDKR should.
Maybe he was alluding to 616, which is the number for the mainstream comic universe.
Sorry, but you two couldn't be more wrong. The Amazing Spider-Man, very much like Batman Begins back in 2005, it's a reboot of a superhero franchise. And as a reboot of a superhero franchise, it's set to become the highest grossing reboot of all time.
Let's take a look at the numbers.
1. The Amazing Spider-Man (2012): $614,611,425 WW (3rd weekend)
2. Iron Man 2 (2010): $623,933,331 WW
3. Iron Man (2008): $585,174,222 WW
4. Thor (2011): $449,326,618
5. Captain America: First Avenger (2011): $368,608,363
6. The Incredible Hulk (2008): $263,427,551
So taking in context with his fellow Marvel Films, The Amazing Spider-Man is bound to keep the crown as the highest grossing solo Marvel superhero. The only Marvel property based on Marvel characters that made more than any other Spider-Man film is The Avengers, which is an assemble never done before kind of superhero film.
Now if we look to the other reboots:
1. The Amazing Spider-Man (2012): Domestic $228,611,425 + Foreign $386,000,000 = $614,611,425 WW (3rd weekend)
2. Star Trek (2009): Domestic $257,730,019 + Foreign $127,950,427 = $385,680,446 WW
3. Batman Begins (2005): Domestic $205,343,774 + Foreign $167,366,241 = $372,710,015 WW
4. Rise of the Planet of the Apes (2011): Domestic $176,760,185 + Foreign $305,040,68 = $481,800,873 WW
5. Cassino Royale (2006): Domestic $167,445,960 + Foreign $426,793,106 = $594,239,066 WW
6. X-Men First Class = Domestic $146,408,305 + Foreign $207,215,819 = $353,624,124
Even though the foreign grosses counting isn't how Bruce Malone quoted from an article some pages ago, The Amazing Spider-Man still comes up on the road of becoming the highest grossing reboot of all time, topping Star Trek in domestic grossings and with a far more profitable foreign grossing.
So let's see:
Still biggest solo superhero Marvel solo franchise: Check
Biggest box office reboot of all time: Check
Successfully making a reboot that pleases new and old fans: Check
Unlike you two have posted, neither Iron Man 1 and 2 were bigger successes than The Amazing Spider-Man or the purpose of a reboot is to make more than its previous film. The purpose of a reboot is to get a franchise back in a position of being profitable again. The Amazing Spider-Man achieves that in spades, and it has still a shot of topping Spider-Man 2 WW grosses, which is $783,766,341. And even if doesn't top that, I have a feeling that just like Batman Begins compared to TDK, the sequel will benefit from a huge jump in the grosses. So yeah, my point is that Sony not only managed to make the second best superhero film of the year and best Spider-Man film yet, The Amazing Spider-Man is a winner.
And I pity those who rooted against it. The Dark Knight Rises seems that will have FAR MORE problems to break even without blu-ray sales than The Amazing Spider-Man ever will.
It has been an incredible summer for superhero movies indeed, and like you I'll be purchasing the blu ray releases of all of them. With that said, I can't deny how disappointed I am with TDKR. For all the talk of Best Picture nominations, I was ready to see The Amazing Spider-Man as 3rd and The Avengers as 2nd best superhero film of the year. Instead I'm rating them like this:
1. The Avengers 10/10
2. The Amazing Spider-Man 9.5/10
3. The Dark Knight Rises 4/10
I'm still thankful to Nolan for two of the best Batman films ever though.
Well, it just made its budget in the States alone:
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=spiderman4.htm
Which means it earned 2 million yesterday, Monday. If it continues like that, then I predict it'll earn around 243 million by the end of Sunday.
and tasm isnt a critical failure either. Most critics gave it favorable reviews. The GA thought it was good aswell. This is just like batman begins and casino royale all over again on the shh forums. Everything is a tad exaggerated and nitpicked. We are going to get a sequel and it will make more than its predecessor. Tasm3 is what im worried about.
Nominated for what exactly? TDKR is no TDK, it simply doesn't deserve it on any of the key categories.And with TDK not being nominated, it caused for there to be a larger number of nominees, thus, TDKR has its chance now.