The Amazing Spider-Man: The Game

[Spider-Aziz]

It's received far more praising than it's worth, I feel like shoving cream pies in the faces of people complimenting them cause they aren't that good

 

[Jick]

...to you. If it receives so much praise to the point of getting a place in the book of records, then that's something to listen.

SM3 is miles below the quality and effort put into Arkham Asylum, let alone AC.

 

[Jick]

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[VenomSpawn]

...for you. If it receives so much praise to the point of getting a place in the book of records, then that's something to listen.

SM3 is miles below the quality and effort put into Arkham Asylum, let alone AC.

Agreed. Spider-Man 3 was very mediocre.

 

[jacobed]

Free roam movie Spider-Man games from Treyarch are the best superhero games ever. SM2 introduced not only quality web swinging and vertical free roaming/free roam superhero game, it was the first superhero game to introduce how the hero moves, how fast and agile Spider-Man is, how strong, acrobatic combat, how as in ASM224 Manhattan is his gym, his playground, and like every comic "His responsibility"

As for Spider-Man 3 (did so much good ignored in favor of whining about the FEW flaws in it which are there in every game (except Capcom's) in the same effing amount), it updated the free flow combat system introduced in USM and incorporated SM2 gymnast Spidey motion, it also the first comic book game to tap into the full potential of some boss fights. The more I play it the more aggravated I get cause people demand another one like it, polished from the few flaws it has, they want another Spider-Man 3 game, they say they want qualities that are ALL available in SM3 the game, take it from the guy who finished the game 32 effing times, watched every terrible bad review of it (all reviews are terrible and don't know how good the game really is, it's faaaar better than mediocre/average/subpar or that grade of crap it's labeled with). They had a nice handle on continuity (SAME SCORPION FROM THE 1st MOVIE GAME, just given an ORIGIN) with easter eggs regarding the first movie and a nod to one of the 2 PS1 games (betyond Mysterio being mentioned from his appearance in SM2)

Developers poured lots and lots of love in those two games, don't forget time restrictions, time the game was released in, things they added, etc

Go play Spider-Man 3, he performs those moves there, WITH NO ISSUES

Spider-Man 3 is sooooo underrated, it very much is, and those Spider-Man games are much better than decent

Arkham Asylum is highly praised, what did it introduce? Nothing. What did it improve on? Nothing. Sure it has great free flow finger numbing button masher combat, fun stealth, fun collectibles, two fine boss fights (KLiller Croc, and Scarecrow), Joker challenges on the PS3, Alex Ross art inspired graphics, Paul Dini masterful storytelling, other than that it's one of the most average games overrated by the many yahoos who just drooled over TDK the movie and think "Batman is the $#%^", it's even more mediocre and uninspired than what you make Spider-Man 2 (and to a more extent the actually superior by many leagues SM3) the game to be, I'm sick of that.

BAA is mediocre, uninspired, half-arsed, and overrated. BAC may be bounds and leaps ahead of it -I haven't played it yet- but if it turns out to be another average game like its predecessor I'll take your opinions about comic book games as nothing far from effy, and will NEVER play a newer Batman game

Same goes for ASM game to be fair, if turns out to be as average as EoT or as terrible as that overhyped overrated official half-arsed CRAP SD I won't play another Spider-Man game

Why does a game have to introduce something for it be good. The free flow combat is the greatest combat system ever in a game. Button mashing it is not, sure you can button mash and more than likely beat the game on easy but you'll struggle with medium and not even come close to beating it on hard. Its a very thought provoking and hard to master combat system. The only thing Spider-man 2 "introduced" was free roaming in the most boring New York City possible. The story was awful, the characters were awful, the voice acting was so unbelievably boring, the combat was uninspired button mashing, the side missions were laughably bad. The only thing Spider-man 2 did right was the web swinging.

 

[Jick]

I disagree entirely on the story being awful. I think it was one of the highest points of the game. They tied everything up by the end, preserved the continuity of the first, it was well presented and even had the hero learning a new lesson by the end of the day.

It might have its flaws, but I can't agree on SM2's story being awful.

 

[Troy_Parker]

Aziz, I don't get it.

I've seen this happen with you in essentially every Spidey game thread. You seem to take it personal when the Arkham games are praised over Spidey games. :S

The fact of the matter is, they're praised like crazy because they deserve it. They offer a satisfying product that is consistent in quality...unlike the Spidey games. Don't get me wrong, each of the Spidey games had an aspect that was very good. But that's just it...in each of them. If Batman can get a game that incorporates all elements of the character in a way that's enjoyable and immersive in one game, why can't our friend Spidey?

Sure, I get that it's different strokes for different folks and all that, but the fact that about 90% of this forum seems to disagree with you about your opinions on the Arkham games should tell you something. If you're thinking about saying "OH, THEY'RE ALL HOPPING ON THE BANDWAGON" then save it, there's no point.

Flat out saying that the Arkham games don't deserve the praise they're getting is extremely childish. Developers spend around 2 years on those games and it shows. The problem with developers for Spidey games is that it's not about quality, it's about how quickly they can ship out their Spidey game.

I think it's fair to say that I'm not the only one that has got high hopes for this next game, I just hope we're not disappointed.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

...to you. If it receives so much praise to the point of getting a place in the book of records, then that's something to listen.

I love bashing what people compliment if they go over the top complimenting it, even if it was one of my favorite of its kind like Arkham Asylum is, even more if they drool over it while bashing something that did rather more good than the highly praised one did

SM3 is miles below the quality and effort put into Arkham Asylum, let alone AC.

No way it is, and you're one who thinks it's one of the worst of its kind, which in no way is true

Agreed. Spider-Man 3 was very mediocre.

It did far more good than bad, and it did more good than BAA did. SM3 is far far better than mediocre

Why does a game have to introduce something for it be good.

I'm pissed, and I hate how it's complimented for adding/improving a formula when it did absolutely nothing of that

The free flow combat is the greatest combat system ever in a game. Button mashing it is not,

Like Hell it's best, and like Hell repeatedly pressing square and almost nothing else if not needed is not button mashing, maybe do a couple of fancy moves with analog and an attack, it's one of the most overrated button mashers

sure you can button mash and more than likely beat the game on easy but you'll struggle with medium and not even come close to beating it on hard.

I played it on hard, it's still an over glorified button masher

Its a very thought provoking and hard to master combat system.

I mastered it within minutes, and it's still a button masher, over glorified at it. One button exclusive for counters is annoyance

The only thing Spider-man 2 "introduced" was free roaming in the most boring New York City possible.

Did you pay attention to good fluid combat? It came directly after the slowpoke from the first movie

The story was awful

It gave a straightforward good story, improved some stuff to the movie

the characters were awful

They were more true to their comic lore than to the movies

the voice acting was so unbelievably boring

Informers only

the combat was uninspired button mashing

It was more tactical than BAA, it has more combinations and stuff

the side missions were laughably bad.

They are the same as in USM, only without informers and the Balloon

The only thing Spider-man 2 did right was the web swinging.

It did more right than that awful uninspired four puppets in the hand of Madam Web with its Godawful story SD, which happens to be your funnest SM game since USM, that one has uninspired combat and dreg missions repeating the same thing 12 effing time. You don't tell me what's a good Spider-Man game and what's not

 

[Troy_Parker]

SD was the best Spidey game of this gen.

Seriously though, I thought it was. Especially for a game that's not based on the movie.

No idea what EoT is like, seems very similar to SD. Gonna pick up EoT when it's dirt cheap next year, this year is the year of the assassin, baby. ;]

 

[Spider-Aziz]

The fact of the matter is, they're praised like crazy because they deserve it. They offer a satisfying product that is consistent in quality...unlike the Spidey games.

I get the "not very near the best quality" thing with Spidey games, I feel that, I don't like how over the top bashing some of them get

Flat out saying that the Arkham games don't deserve the praise they're getting is extremely childish. Developers spend around 2 years on those games and it shows.

I meant all, but when I'm ticked I can go over the top, though I try to decrease going to that level

SD was the best Spidey game of this gen.

Maybe in graphics and in having Noir, nothing else

 

[Troy_Parker]

I get the "not very near the best quality" thing with Spidey games, I feel that, I don't like how over the top bashing some of them get

Well, it's a forum. You know how it is. Happens with everything, movies, shows, etc. Extreme nitpicking, extreme *****ing and so on.

I meant all, but when I'm ticked I can go over the top, though I try to decrease going to that level

Good.

Maybe in graphics and in having Noir, nothing else

Graphics were very cool. I quite liked Spidey 2099 and Noir. The only problem was Spidey's animations in each dimension. Felt way too stiff and "set" if you get what I mean.

 

[Jick]

I love bashing what people compliment if they go over the top complimenting it

Then that's pure trolling of you. Grow up. When will you learn people have different opinions?

Seriously, your taste in games is really weird and what you perceive as a quality game won't be shared by many. And while you're alone in thinking SM3 has more quality than AA...well, that's it, you're alone.

No way it is, and you're one who thinks it's one of the worst of its kind, which in no way is true

What kind? Superhero based games?
I can't immediately think of many I disliked as much. It's really bad, imo.

 

[KingMob]

I am by no means an expert when it comes to games. I'm a casual gamer at best. I never finished SM3. I thought, besides the webslinging, it was a poor game. It didn't really hold my attention. Compared to AA and AC, which I actually finished, it felt like a hollow experience. It was not really that satisfying beyond swinging through a, rather lifeless NY. The Arkham games just seem to be better overall.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I am by no means an expert when it comes to games. I'm a casual gamer at best. I never finished SM3. I thought, besides the webslinging, it was a poor game. It didn't really hold my attention. Compared to AA and AC, which I actually finished, it felt like a hollow experience. It was not really that satisfying beyond swinging through a, rather lifeless NY. The Arkham games just seem to be better overall.

Well you're correct. Both AC and AA are better games than anything carrying the Spidey license, escpecially SM3, however in the case of SM3 it was tied to a movie which means lower production values overall, so of course a title like AA or AC would be much better.

 

[VenomSpawn]

As a devout Spider-Man fan, I can say that the recent Batman games wipe the floor with any Spider-Man game that I've ever played.

And I don't even like Batman very much.

 

[Troy_Parker]

As a devout Spider-Man fan, I can say that the recent Batman games wipe the floor with any Spider-Man game that I've ever played.

And I don't even like Batman very much.

Your avatar = Aziz's face when he reads your post.



xD

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Then that's pure trolling of you. Grow up. When will you learn people have different opinions?

When people learn not to annoy me with mine

Seriously, your taste in games is really weird and what you perceive as a quality game won't be shared by many. And while you're alone in thinking SM3 has more quality than AA...well, that's it, you're alone.
What kind? Superhero based games?

Yes

I can't immediately think of many I disliked as much. It's really bad, imo.

But you find WoS enjoyable and overlooked so much good SM3 did
You think SM3 has overabundance of QTE (it so does not, and only in 14 out of 42 missions) including door opening (Test your Might, it's also there in USM and many mroe games), and it's sure not worse than the system originally is, button shown, press on it. It's a terrible idea if it was poorly done in SM3, cause it is NOOOOOT done any worse than RE4 and GoW, QTE is a bad idea since the start, they're fine once I got used to them, I don't want any more of them in any newer games though

I am by no means an expert when it comes to games. I'm a casual gamer at best. I never finished SM3. I thought, besides the webslinging, it was a poor game.

It was far from poor

Compared to AA and AC

Would you please quite bringing AC up? I haven't played that one yet

which I actually finished, it felt like a hollow experience. It was not really that satisfying beyond swinging through a, rather lifeless NY.

There are cars, there are people, there are some tourists, and people buy from hot dog carts and newspaper stands on the streets, they also get annoed when Spider-Man bumps to them, they panic when a big event is happening, that is not lifeless

Well you're correct. Both AC and AA are better games than anything carrying the Spidey license, escpecially SM3, however in the case of SM3 it was tied to a movie which means lower production values overall, so of course a title like AA or AC would be much better.

No no no no no no no, just no, it's not especially better than this one

Spider-Man 3 is one of the more innovative and creative games of this gen, in a real good way, the flaws it holds are available in highly praised games including the highly acclaimed Arkham Asylum, only games not sharing those flaws are Capcom games, only them and Square

AA is a bag of cliches (the big bad wants to gain power and does bad damagaing and killing people (though it happens a lot in real life)), and it has plenty of the flaws SM3 has, but for some reason they are overlooked there; camera issue for the most part

AA is a button masher and SM3 has creative flexible free flow and plus combat, why is AA considered awesome and SM3 counted as the button masher BAA is?

SM3 updated a lot of stuff from previous games, but it's not looked at, BAA improved nothing and it's credited for improving combat and that $#%^, it's definite that I'd get annoyed with that attitude from people

Seriously, SM3 is the most underrated video game EVER made, innovative for this gen of consoles, holds some of the most fun ignored gameplay

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Your avatar = Aziz's face when he reads your post.



xD

 

[Jick]

But you find WoS enjoyable

No I don't

and overlooked so much good SM3 did

I'm not overlooking, I just can't find it. It isn't there for me as it is for you. What you think they did right, I think they did horribly.

You think SM3 has overabundance of QTE (it so does not, and only in 14 out of 42 missions) including door opening (Test your Might, it's also there in USM and many mroe games), and it's sure not worse than the system originally is, button shown, press on it. It's a terrible idea if it was poorly done in SM3, cause it is NOOOOOT done any worse than RE4 and GoW, QTE is a bad idea since the start, they're fine once I got used to them, I don't want any more of them in any newer games though

Oh man, you love repeating yourself. It's not like you're going to convince anyone.
And I don't think SM3 has overabundance of QTE. It HAS overabundance of QTE. Like when we have to use it every 10 seconds to dodge a simple lizard in the sewer. Like I said before, they just went along in a time QTE was popular and poorly did it in the game.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

No I don't

When I talked about alternate suits you overjumped with joy, and you said you like it, that says something against the "No I don't"

I'm not overlooking, I just can't find it. It isn't there for me as it is for you. What you think they did right, I think they did horribly.

But you adore the first movie game with slowpoke Spider-Man and not so apparantly cringeworthy to you over abundance of too hard robots, that is one of the most cringworthy games

Oh man, you love repeating yourself. It's not like you're going to convince anyone.

I don't love repeating myself

And I don't think SM3 has overabundance of QTE. It HAS overabundance of QTE.

It has plenty, but they aren't that many people go "EEEERHH" about

Like when we have to use it every 10 seconds to dodge a simple lizard in the sewer.

Only 3 effing times, if you count those dodges the QTE's in the second Lizard stage are 7

Like I said before, they just went along in a time QTE was popular and poorly did it in the game.

Here here (some missions take more than 15 minutes to complete):
1 in the first mission
1 in Mad bomber 2
2 in Mad bomber 4
3 in Mad bomber 5
1 in Dragon Tails mission 2
5 in Scorpion mission 2, and you can skip those two during the chase if you swing real high) (effing fight on the bridge is miles better than the train station slowpoke fight)
1 obligatory in Scorpion mission 3 (and they didn't do what you said was done in continuity, that's how your mind projected it)
7 in Lizard 2 (3 of them are the Dodge+ attack surprise enemies, not just dodge, 2 to speed motion, and nicely put, 2 after each portion of the big fight)
5 in Lizard 3
4 in the final showdown
3 in Sandman
1 in Dewolf mission 3
2 in Kingpin mission 2

Not many, they take short time, and lesser than what you made them to be, you made it sound that time like it was that old Dragon Slayer game, not a game oversaturated with them, they have more QTE's compared to others, but they are well placed and well handled, not that poor thing you made it to be

I said it and repeat it, if it was poorly done here, that's only cause it was basically a bad idea since the start, nothing poorly made here as you said
Aside from GoW they are the only ones who gave actually useful and handy QTE's, in RE4 & RE5 they were plain useless and annoying, in MUA they were quite useless, in this game they were actually handy, And there aren't that effing many of them, you like most people who complained about this game OVER DRAMATIZED complaints, as conceited as I sound what I said is more truth than not.

That last debate I had with you about the game added to my thought, people over look WAY TOO much good stuff here and somewhat people overlook them

 

[ProjectPat2280]

No no no no no no no, just no, it's not especially better than this one

Spider-Man 3 is one of the more innovative and creative games of this gen, in a real good way, the flaws it holds are available in highly praised games including the highly acclaimed Arkham Asylum, only games not sharing those flaws are Capcom games, only them and Square

AA is a bag of cliches (the big bad wants to gain power and does bad damagaing and killing people (though it happens a lot in real life)), and it has plenty of the flaws SM3 has, but for some reason they are overlooked there; camera issue for the most part

AA is a button masher and SM3 has creative flexible free flow and plus combat, why is AA considered awesome and SM3 counted as the button masher BAA is?

SM3 updated a lot of stuff from previous games, but it's not looked at, BAA improved nothing and it's credited for improving combat and that $#%^, it's definite that I'd get annoyed with that attitude from people

Seriously, SM3 is the most underrated video game EVER made, innovative for this gen of consoles, holds some of the most fun ignored gameplay

Wait, are you serious? I mean this isn't some kind of trolling game you've made up? Do you actually believe what you are writing? I mean if so, wow, dude, just wow. I mean Iv come across some stupid people but you are WAY up there. This isn't even an opinion debate, SM3 is a poor game. Period. There is a reason its Metacritic score is a 63. 63 man. You can like SM3 all ya want, thats absolutely fine, but to try and make the argument that its one of the more innovative games this gen is just, well really really stupid. It has a TERRIBLE camera, TERRIBLE voice work, TERRIBLE plot(altho thats not entirely the devs fault) and a horribly lifeless and dull NY. There are so few saving graces in that game its not even worth bringing them up.

Sorry dude, the game you like so much sucks. I mean its completely fine you like it, but its trash.

 

[Jericho]

OMG! What the hell is this SM3 trolling?

I loved SM2. I played through story-mode multiple times and spent countless hours swinging around NYC. I was very excited when it came to SM3 hoping for a next generation console upgrade to that experience. Instead I got a tortorous and non-memorable story that I had to force myself to play through. Anyone who thinks SM3 is a good game has zero gaming perspective and taste. SM3 took the franchise in the wrong direction. The most positive thing I have to say about it is it did look better and the addition of the rest of the NYC bridges was a nice touch, but even then the city bored me for some reason. It doesn't help their idea of random crimes was those bullsh** gang factions attacking people. WTF??? I'd sooner have balloon baby back.

WoS I enjoyed with some decent and more memorable story moments, but alot of fluff. The controls were pretty good though and I thought it was on par with Hulk: UD in that vein... but it never filled that void left since SM2 either. Still waiting.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

OMG! What the hell is this SM3 trolling?

I loved SM2. I played through story-mode multiple times and spent countless hours swinging around NYC. I was very excited when it came to SM3 hoping for a next generation console upgrade to that experience. Instead I got a tortorous and non-memorable story that I had to force myself to play through. Anyone who thinks SM3 is a good game has zero gaming perspective and taste. SM3 took the franchise in the wrong direction. The most positive thing I have to say about it is it did look better and the addition of the rest of the NYC bridges was a nice touch, but even then the city bored me for some reason. It doesn't help their idea of random crimes was those bullsh** gang factions attacking people. WTF??? I'd sooner have balloon baby back.

WoS I enjoyed with some decent and more memorable story moments, but alot of fluff. The controls were pretty good though and I thought it was on par with Hulk: UD in that vein... but it never filled that void left since SM2 either. Still waiting.

You can absolutely enjoy SM3, i mean hell iv got some stinkers that i still play every now and then(Tenchu Z anyone?), but yea to say the game is innovative just shows a pure lack of knowledge on the subject. But honestly, i think aziz is just full of s**t. He's just trying to get a rise by making these ludicrous claims on the quality(well lack thereof) of SM3.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Seriously, SM3 is the most underrated video game EVER made, innovative for this gen of consoles, holds some of the most fun ignored gameplay

you do know what innovative means right? and what comes with it right? wildly unpopular games.... are NEVER considered innovative. popular and innovative sorta go hand in hand... thing's arnt innovative just because you like them and think so...

 

[EliteF50]

Spider-Aziz, you're a troll. I hate people like you.

Now I'm not sure if it's my sleepiness talking, but what the hell? SM3 is miles better than BAA?