"The American Way" is it in trouble?

[Kritish]

plus he dislikes Muslims and Mexicans ( which really screws Muslim Mexicans over I guess)

There's such a thing?

 

[MaskedManJRK]

Glenn Beck hates penguins.

And George Miller, for the "crazy conservationist themes" of "The Road Warrior."

What's even odder about their reasoning is saying that it portrays humans as evil when it really doesn't. The characters view them as "aliens" and the only time that someone says anything about their actions is Mumble in the aquarium, trying to talk to them, saying "I know you probably don't mean to, but you're kinda killing us out there." I KNOW YOU PROBABLY DON'T MEAN TO. Hardly mustage-twirling villiany.

And, like I said, marine fishing does not equal global warming, therefore it's NOT an animated Inconviniant Truth.

I honestly wonder if they are actually bulls**ting when they talk about seeing it, or were just not paying atention.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

There's such a thing?

yes.
now if we could breed Mexican Muslim Penguins, a heart attack induced by the sheer hate, would strike beck dead, like the mighty hand of god.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

He's a twit.


Speakin' of, what'd you think of the movie, sparkle? Just btw.

Happy Feet?
I thought it was alright.
it got a bit heavy handed for a kid's film but overall ok by me.

 

[Superhobo]

What's even odder about their reasoning is saying that it portrays humans as evil when it really doesn't. The characters view them as "aliens" and the only time that someone says anything about their actions is Mumble in the aquarium, trying to talk to them, saying "I know you probably don't mean to, but you're kinda killing us out there." I KNOW YOU PROBABLY DON'T MEAN TO. Hardly mustage-twirling villiany.

And, like I said, marine fishing does not equal global warming, therefore it's NOT an animated Inconviniant Truth.

I honestly wonder if they are actually bulls**ting when they talk about seeing it, or were just not paying atention.

You and me both. It's like, damn.

Happy Feet?
I thought it was alright.
it got a bit heavy handed for a kid's film but overall ok by me.

Eh. It was all good. Funny thing is though, mainly it was just the US that had a problem with the "LIBBERUL INDOKTRINASHUN." The rest of the world had no prob with it.

Then again, they didn't exactly play it up as a kid's film overseas, either. So...eh.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

Wow...I must admit I'm stunned, both at the realization by Glen Beck of stuff my generation's been told for at least the last 10 years, and also by all the flack he seems to be getting on this forum because of it.

To be clear, most people in the United States have their own version of what "American Way" means to them. However, generally speaking, this phrase usually echos something along the following: "truth, integrity, honor, justice, courage, and patriotism. A way of living (not merely "thinking") that reflects the social, ethical, and moral foundations (not just traditions) of the United States of America."

I'll only mention this once, so listen when I say I know a lot of you will disagree. However, the discussions that will likely result from my statement do not belong in this topic, so please save the rants and personal attacks for another thread.

The truth as I see it is this: This country will crumble to pieces, if we as a society continue to revel in our current "one nation over God" mentality. Whether any of us (myself included) agree with it or not, the United States was born from the ashes of a politically-driven, British-religion extreme mandate, created by the Founding Fathers with one principle as its basis, above all others...the teachings of Jesus Christ.

In 1776, we declared our freedom from the Church of England's extremist oppression and theological barbarism, that masked itself as an "intellectual Christianity". But our founders knew better. They didn't just fill their heads with Scripture-sounding doctrine, and leave it at that. They took it to heart, and as a result, we have the Constitution. But that document has been amended so many times in 231 years, we've now become a country where supporting every other "right" is fine, as long as it doesn't involve Christ. A world where Christian crosses, the Ten Commandments, and manger scenes are forcibly removed by judicial ACLU sympathizers, but adult theaters and porn shops are allowed to remain. A society where actors and comedians can swear profoundly on television, but words like "God" and "Jesus" are often discouraged, and even banned...unless used in a negative light.

Its not just the "American Way" that's in trouble, but America itself. And so long as we keep Christ collectively out of the equation, it will only get worse.

 

[Dan]

They took it to heart, and as a result, we have the Declaration of Independence. But that document has been amended so many times in 231 years, we've now become a country where supporting every other "right" is fine, as long as it doesn't involve Christ.

The Declaration Of Independence has never been amended before. I suggest taking a U.S. History and/or U.S. Government class before making such idiotic statements.

 

[Mike_D202]

He forgot to mention that they are also taking the "A" out of the "JLA" movie.

I think its rediculous. I suppose they wanna make more money overseas in the film market as well, and "America" isnt exactly very popular over there.

 

[BlackLantern]

Glenn Beck used to be a morning radio host here at a pop radio station in Connecticut, so any commentary he might have doesn't hold any water with me. as for the GI JOE movie......considering that they traveled the world all the time and had american and international members........and its not like they ever focused on what GI JOE meant, it was just the name of the team. Paramount and the writers actually have it stand for something. In a modern setting, I view them as SHIELD, they are under the jurisdiction of the UN, but do their own thing anyway....

 

[The Overlord]

Wow...I must admit I'm stunned, both at the realization by Glen Beck of stuff my generation's been told for at least the last 10 years, and also by all the flack he seems to be getting on this forum because of it.

To be clear, most people in the United States have their own version of what "American Way" means to them. However, generally speaking, this phrase usually echos something along the following: "truth, integrity, honor, justice, courage, and patriotism. A way of living (not merely "thinking") that reflects the social, ethical, and moral foundations (not just traditions) of the United States of America."

I'll only mention this once, so listen when I say I know a lot of you will disagree. However, the discussions that will likely result from my statement do not belong in this topic, so please save the rants and personal attacks for another thread.

The truth as I see it is this: This country will crumble to pieces, if we as a society continue to revel in our current "one nation over God" mentality. Whether any of us (myself included) agree with it or not, the United States was born from the ashes of a politically-driven, British-religion extreme mandate, created by the Founding Fathers with one principle as its basis, above all others...the teachings of Jesus Christ.

In 1776, we declared our freedom from the Church of England's extremist oppression and theological barbarism, that masked itself as an "intellectual Christianity". But our founders knew better. They didn't just fill their heads with Scripture-sounding doctrine, and leave it at that. They took it to heart, and as a result, we have the Declaration of Independence. But that document has been amended so many times in 231 years, we've now become a country where supporting every other "right" is fine, as long as it doesn't involve Christ. A world where Christian crosses, the Ten Commandments, and manger scenes are forcibly removed by judicial ACLU sympathizers, but adult theaters and porn shops are allowed to remain. A society where actors and comedians can swear profoundly on television, but words like "God" and "Jesus" are often discouraged, and even banned...unless used in a negative light.

Its not just the "American Way" that's in trouble, but America itself. And so long as we keep Christ collectively out of the equation, it will only get worse.

Little my problem my fundamentalist firiend, Thomas Jefferson has said stuff like "Christainity is the most perverted system shown on man". He was a founding father, was he anti America? This whole america is Christian nation is BS.

This why people in other countries hate Republicans, they they promote rules on the international stage and then say that they are above them. if the Russians invaded Saudi arabia, saying they believed the Saudis were behind the beslan attack, do you think Bush would have apporve of that action? Republicans act like complete jingoists and yet they would condemn jingoists from other countries if they met them. Beck is a hypocrite and an idiot.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

The Declaration Of Independence has never been amended before. I suggest taking a U.S. History and/or U.S. Government class before making such idiotic statements.

My fault; my brain said "Constitution", but I typed "Declaration" by accident. Sorry.

 

[teseract]

Wow...I must admit I'm stunned, both at the realization by Glen Beck of stuff my generation's been told for at least the last 10 years, and also by all the flack he seems to be getting on this forum because of it.

To be clear, most people in the United States have their own version of what "American Way" means to them. However, generally speaking, this phrase usually echos something along the following: "truth, integrity, honor, justice, courage, and patriotism. A way of living (not merely "thinking") that reflects the social, ethical, and moral foundations (not just traditions) of the United States of America."

I'll only mention this once, so listen when I say I know a lot of you will disagree. However, the discussions that will likely result from my statement do not belong in this topic, so please save the rants and personal attacks for another thread.

The truth as I see it is this: This country will crumble to pieces, if we as a society continue to revel in our current "one nation over God" mentality. Whether any of us (myself included) agree with it or not, the United States was born from the ashes of a politically-driven, British-religion extreme mandate, created by the Founding Fathers with one principle as its basis, above all others...the teachings of Jesus Christ.

In 1776, we declared our freedom from the Church of England's extremist oppression and theological barbarism, that masked itself as an "intellectual Christianity". But our founders knew better. They didn't just fill their heads with Scripture-sounding doctrine, and leave it at that. They took it to heart, and as a result, we have the Constitution. But that document has been amended so many times in 231 years, we've now become a country where supporting every other "right" is fine, as long as it doesn't involve Christ. A world where Christian crosses, the Ten Commandments, and manger scenes are forcibly removed by judicial ACLU sympathizers, but adult theaters and porn shops are allowed to remain. A society where actors and comedians can swear profoundly on television, but words like "God" and "Jesus" are often discouraged, and even banned...unless used in a negative light.

Its not just the "American Way" that's in trouble, but America itself. And so long as we keep Christ collectively out of the equation, it will only get worse.

Only one word describes this diatribe and that is "BOLLOCKS!"

 

[Moviefan2k4]

Thomas Jefferson has said stuff like "Christainity is the most perverted system shown on man".

He also stated, "No nation has ever yet existed or been governed without religion, nor can be. The Christian religion is the best religion that has ever been given to man, and I, as chief Magistrate of this nation, am bound to give it the sanction of my example."

 

[Matt]

Too many people read too much into things.

 

[teseract]

He also stated, "No nation has ever yet existed or been governed without religion, nor can be. The Christian religion is the best religion that has ever been given to man, and I, as chief Magistrate of this nation, am bound to give it the sanction of my example."

Considering the historic facts I'd say Buddhism is much better than Christianity.

 

[BlackLantern]

but if America is founded on principles like freedom of speech and religion....is it right to push Christ on everyone??

 

[The Chairman]

The only point Moviefan2k4 is that the ACLU have a tendency to be flaming hypocrites. America is not a theocracy. I'm a Christian, but I'm able to recognize the reason why Church and State are separated.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

but if America is founded on principles like freedom of speech and religion....is it right to push Christ on everyone??

Bear in mind that while we have freedom to choose our own religion, in this country we are not guaranteed any absence of it (known as "freedom from religion"). The U.S. government was intended from the very beginning to be founded on Christian morals, but over the last few decades, more and more people wanted things their own way, and started trying to re-envision America as a liberal or "open-minded" nation. But in fact, by pushing Christ away, they're trashing the very heart of this land which we call home. Personally, I don't want to live in a country where Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, and atheists have free reign, while every Christian initiative is told in some way, "You're a traitor, and we don't want you here."

I get so shocked sometimes, when liberals say stuff like, "I object to this! Christianity is offensive!", and no one bats an eye. Yet, when a believer in Christ declares the same thing about being persecuted in favor of other "beliefs", we're branded as virtual enemies of the state.

 

[bullets]

America was flushed down the toilet along with christian morals.

 

[teseract]

Bear in mind that while we have freedom to choose our own religion, in this country we are not guaranteed any absence of it (known as "freedom from religion").

Wrong, freedom of religion also contains freedom from religion, otherwise it would not be practical in any way, shape or form.

And stop the whiny drama queen act, where are you persecuted in the name of other beliefs?

Persecution? Talk about that Hindu chaplain who was harrassed when he wanted to open senate session with a prayer by ... yes you guessed it Christians.

Oh and you ARE enemies of the State, at least the fundamental type of chistian, because if they would have anything to say the US would be pretty much the christian equivalent of Iran or Saudi Arabia.

 

[BlackLantern]

Bear in mind that while we have freedom to choose our own religion, in this country we are not guaranteed any absence of it (known as "freedom from religion"). The U.S. government was intended from the very beginning to be founded on Christian morals, but over the last few decades, more and more people wanted things their own way, and started trying to re-envision America as a liberal or "open-minded" nation. But in fact, by pushing Christ away, they're trashing the very heart of this land which we call home. Personally, I don't want to live in a country where Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, and atheists have free reign, while every Christian initiative is told in some way, "You're a traitor, and we don't want you here."

I get so shocked sometimes, when liberals say stuff like, "I object to this! Christianity is offensive!", and no one bats an eye. Yet, when a believer in Christ declares the same thing about being persecuted in favor of other "beliefs", we're branded as virtual enemies of the state.

I certainly can see your point, but if we look back historically....followers of Christ persecuted and killed those who refused to convert. I think the perception comes from the fundamentalists who constantly push their "religion" on everyone else, that their religion is the only right one and everyone else is going to hell...for the exception of Muslim extremists...you dont see Jewish people, or Buddhists saying that if people dont convert they are going to helll....

 

[teseract]

America was flushed down the toilet along with christian morals.

Christian morals? Like stone people, sell your daughters into slavery, oppress people... morals like that?

 

[C.F. Kane]

I think people have a problem with a saying like "The American Way" because it's a fairly vague term that makes an impossible attempt to categorize an entire culture. And besides, trying to judge some things by their "American" or "un-American" qualities is a bit scary; who decides what is part of American culture and what isn't?

The examples Glenn Beck is taking seem to be more of a reflection of globalized culture more than anything else. The new Superman stands for "truth, justice, and all that stuff" because the new Superman is meant to be a hero for all, not just one country; or at least that was my interpretation.

And Moviefan, the colonies started the revolution because of political repression, not religious. Great Britain levied taxes on the colonies while the colonies themselves had no representation in Parliament, angering the colonists. Nothing to do with religion. And by the way, the ACLU can and have protected the rights of many Christian groups, so calling them anti-Christian is a bit unfair.

 

[bullets]

Christian morals? Like stone people, sell your daughters into slavery, oppress people... morals like that?

your right they never had any morals.

 

[C.F. Kane]

I get so shocked sometimes, when liberals say stuff like, "I object to this! Christianity is offensive!", and no one bats an eye. Yet, when a believer in Christ declares the same thing about being persecuted in favor of other "beliefs", we're branded as virtual enemies of the state.

You are the state! You have a Christian in the White House! In fact, you've had Christians in the White House for over 200 years! You're 80% of the population! You have Christians controlling every branch of government! You've been the top dog of the world since the days of imperialism. And sir, you have no idea what real persecution tastes like.