Infinity War The AVENGERS INFINITY WAR OFFICIAL SPOILER Thread - Part 2

[harlequinade]

 

[warhorse78]

Ya know, when you think of how old Thor is, these last 7 years are really just like...a ridiculously terrible week for him.

But really, Thor was my favorite Avenger in this movie. I kind of expected to be bored by his side-quest when I first heard about it, but all his scenes with Rocket and Groot were gold. He's practically tied with Cap as my fave overall now, which is something I never could've expected 2 years ago.

While Cap is my main favorite, I particularly loved Thor, and Dr Strange (who has become my favorite out of the phase 3 characters) in this movie. The one character that annoyed me was Peter Quill. He is alright when he is by himself in GOTG, but when he's pitted against Tony Stark and Thor, the latter two's charisma just shines in comparison.


But, with that said, I don't read the comics, so I don't fully understand what happened at the end of the movie. When the characters started to just fade away like dust, was that in real time, Thanos killing them, or did he go back into time and was erasing them from existence? And why would he keep Tony and Steve alive?

 

[Web-Head]

While Cap is my main favorite, I particularly loved Thor, and Dr Strange (who has become my favorite out of the phase 3 characters) in this movie. The one character that annoyed me was Peter Quill. He is alright when he is by himself in GOTG, but when he's pitted against Tony Stark and Thor, the latter two's charisma just shines in comparison.


But, with that said, I don't read the comics, so I don't fully understand what happened at the end of the movie. When the characters started to just fade away like dust, was that in real time, Thanos killing them, or did he go back into time and was erasing them from existence? And why would he keep Tony and Steve alive?

He wiped out half of existence with the snap. Thanos didn't decide who (that we know of)

 

[Brutikus]

He wiped out half of existence with the snap. Thanos didn't decide who (that we know of)

Yeah,it's random indiscriminate as he mentioned in the movie,status or dollars or any other determinent not factored into his plan of 50% genocide.

 

[Darkraid]

I really wonder tho. What if wiping half of the universe is actually the right course of action for the universe? Not wiping out half the universe might actually brought something even worse. For example Galactus, that would bring the end of the universe.

 

[Mjölnir]

Some further thoughts:
- The battle on Titan with all of them trying to restrain Thanos was great, as was Peter Quill's reaction when he realises Thanos is responsible for Gamora's death.
- The moment between Thor and Rocket on the ship, some great acting by Hemsworth.

Also, isn't Thor seriously overpowered now? His Stormbreaker OVERPOWERED Thanos WITH the Infinity Gauntlet, although an arguement could be made that Thano was caught off guard.

What is the point of having Thor with the rest of the Avengers going forward? Am I missing something here?

Thor definitely caught Thanos off guard and the Titan most likely didn't expect any of the heroes to have that kind of power, so he didn't counter as strongly as he could have. As powerful as Thor was in the film he's still nothing compared to Thanos with the full Infinity Gauntlet.

As for being overpowered, Feige said that Captain Marvel will be the clearly most powerful hero we've ever seen in the MCU so he likely won't be top dog much longer. Granted it's possible that Feige was talking about the state of when he revealed phase 3 and that Thor's growth in power wasn't planned then and they might be fairly equal, but all we know is what Feige said.

 

[BigThor]

I don't think Thor is nothing when compared to IG Thanos, if he was nothing he wouldn't have been able to overpower his blast which used all 6 stones simultaneously.

You still have to be somewhat comparable to someone to overpower their attack in any fashion. For example, Daredevil couldn't overpower Thor no matter how much he caught him off guard. However a character like War Machine probably could, see what I mean you have to be somewhat comparable for you to have any effect in the first place.

 

[warhorse78]

Thor definitely caught Thanos off guard and the Titan most likely didn't expect any of the heroes to have that kind of power, so he didn't counter as strongly as he could have. As powerful as Thor was in the film he's still nothing compared to Thanos with the full Infinity Gauntlet.

As for being overpowered, Feige said that Captain Marvel will be the clearly most powerful hero we've ever seen in the MCU so he likely won't be top dog much longer. Granted it's possible that Feige was talking about the state of when he revealed phase 3 and that Thor's growth in power wasn't planned then and they might be fairly equal, but all we know is what Feige said.

I thought it was declared Scarlet Witch is the most powerful of the Avengers? And, they pretty much indicated it when she was the only one powerful enough to destroy an infinity stone.

But with this wiping out half the population. Is it random, or were the infinity stones being selective, since they seem to have a mind of their own sometimes?

 

[BigThor]

Ya know, when you think of how old Thor is, these last 7 years are really just like...a ridiculously terrible week for him.

But really, Thor was my favorite Avenger in this movie. I kind of expected to be bored by his side-quest when I first heard about it, but all his scenes with Rocket and Groot were gold. He's practically tied with Cap as my fave overall now, which is something I never could've expected 2 years ago.

It's taken 7 years but we've finally brought you over to the dark side I remember how unimpressed you were with Thor 1.

 

[Brutikus]

But with this wiping out half the population. Is it random, or were the infinity stones being selective, since they seem to have a mind of their own sometimes?

Thanos states that his genocide plan involves indiscriminate selection so his will being extended via the stones means he has the stones kill indiscriminately/randomly.

 

[BigThor]

I thought it was declared Scarlet Witch is the most powerful of the Avengers? And, they pretty much indicated it when she was the only one powerful enough to destroy an infinity stone.

But with this wiping out half the population. Is it random, or were the infinity stones being selective, since they seem to have a mind of their own sometimes?

Lol that was never declared.

It was explained that she was able to destroy the Mind stone because her energy was similar to it. Vision explain that it would make the molecules unstable and cause it to self destruct.

It was definitely not because she was the only powerful enough, it was more of her powers being more suited for the job. Basically like a key, it was the right fit for the situation.

 

[Mjölnir]

I thought it was declared Scarlet Witch is the most powerful of the Avengers? And, they pretty much indicated it when she was the only one powerful enough to destroy an infinity stone.

But with this wiping out half the population. Is it random, or were the infinity stones being selective, since they seem to have a mind of their own sometimes?

I haven't heard any declaration on which hero is the most powerful.

She could destroy the Mind Stone because she was attuned to it, thanks to that her powers come from it.

I think it's random as that was how Thanos intended it to be, and I think it would follow his will.

 

[BigThor]

I think it does, he kinda called it when he was on the floor. My question is how does he fly with it? With Mjolnir it kinda dragged him imitating flight. How did he fly with Strombreaker? Someone also asked asked why he didn't summon lightening when Thanos had him like he did with Hela.

Thor can fly on his own now, does everybody magically forget the scene where he flew to the bifrost bridge in the final battle of Ragnarok?

Also he was flying around and hovering in Wakanda, when he threw Stormbreaker at Thanos he was still hovering in the air while it over powered Thanos's beam.

 

[Flash525]

Managed to avoid any spoilers for this, and went in to watch it last night. Loved it. Loki & Heimdall were obvious choices for deaths, and I, along with many others, called those ages ago, although I admit, there was a second or two where I thought Loki was going to join Thanos (again).

My singular quibble with that scene though; Valkyrie & Korg? Later in the film we're explicitly told that Scott & Clint are (essentially) under house arrest, but there's no mention of Valkyrie or Korg anywhere ~ we don't see their bodies either, so did Thanos kill them, or did they leave that ship prior to Thanos arriving? The scene (in Ragnarok) had Thanos arrive when Loki & Thor were talking, so I'm wondering whether Korg, Valkyrie and a few other Asgardians had left before hand? It's the only logical sense.

It further seems evident to me that the sequel will be more cosmic, and I'm assuming that Captain Marvel is off world, thus the reason she hasn't appeared up until now - she's had no need to be an Avenger. There would have been some irony though (from Fury's POV) if Captain Marvel was one of the people erased from existence.

But yeah, loved the film, just enough elements of humour, and there were some badass scenes; Thor stole some of those, as did Banner, and well, to be honest, I genuienly think all of the main players had their time to shine, as did the minor characters such as Bucky, Rocket, Falcon & Rhodes. The opening scene/fight between Strange, Stark & Spidey was excellent too.

The scenes between Tasha, Sam & Rogers against Corvus & Proxima didn't bother me too much either having witnessed how they went down. I guess it goes without saying also that the deaths which occurred prior to the finger click will stick (so that's Xandar - which I'm a bit bummed about not having seen), Asgard and a whole bunch of Wakandans are dead.

Vision is a tricky one because he's an Android, and I feel it would be too early to kill him off permanently, however if he was done and dusted, I wouldn't be surprised if that stuck. I can't remotely believe that they're going to keep Gamora dead though; I have a sneaky suspicion that Nebula will give her life for her sister somehow. I don't really think there's much left for the Nebula character outside of Guardians - unless she joins them in honour of Gamora or something.

And Strange sacrificing that stone to save Stark? I guess the only way to actually defeat Thanos required him to first win? There's no logic to that move otherwise.

 

[Brutikus]

 

[BigThor]

My man!

 

[Brutikus]

My man!

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

You know what... I hadn't even thought of Val and Korg until right now. Good question.

 

[BigThor]

My boy resisted the full power of a Neutron Star, restarted a space forge by slinging a space craft and pulling a skyscraper sized portion of the forge. Overpowered a beam from a fully powered Infinity Gauntlet and gave Thanos a grievous injury but still can't get respect. Lmao

Let us Thor fans enjoy his time as the most powerul MCU hero before Captain Marvel comes and puts him to shame.

 

[Prettyricky]

I really think the best joke of the movie was kevin bacon and how thor said he might be an avenger since he hasnt been to earth in a couple years.

 

[Brutikus]

I really think the best joke of the movie was kevin bacon and how thor said he might be an avenger since he hasnt been to earth in a couple years.

That was cool!

Funny how Thor would know who Bacon is also and at same time consider he could've literally joined the Avengers roster.

 

[BigThor]

I really think the best joke of the movie was kevin bacon and how thor said he might be an avenger since he hasnt been to earth in a couple years.

I completely forgot about this, it was hilarious because it was poking fun at the Avengers constantly getting new members.

 

[Flash525]

I really think the best joke of the movie was kevin bacon and how thor said he might be an avenger since he hasnt been to earth in a couple years.

Quill: "Is Footloose still the best film ever released?"
Paker: "It never was!"

Made me chuckle!

 

[BigThor]

Quill: "Is Footloose still the best film ever released?"
Paker: "It never was!"

Made me chuckle!

I'm suprised Starlord didn't blast him in his face when he said that.

 

[Bagide]

Quill: "Is Footloose still the best film ever released?"
Paker: "It never was!"

Made me chuckle!

Drax standing still to be invisible was great for me. Mantis mean face too