Infinity War The Avengers: Infinity War The Official News and Speculation - - - - - - - - - - - Part 26

[legendkillin]

Yep. Must be Thursday

must be a day that ends in day is more like it.

 

[Thanoss]

Ok,the clip is regarding the comics when thanos is using the reality stone to make all the avengers think they win every fight even thanos is getting in prison until cap is figure it out

 

[legendkillin]

7 days until the beginning of the end, I am considering it a 4 part ride IWs, Ant-Man & Wasp, Captain Marvel, and A4 all should have connections to each other in some way more so than most movies that follow after each other in the MCU aside from phase 1.

When rewatching the MCU you can see Winter Soldier, Avengers AoU, and Civil War have a connection where they build upon the next all leading up to Civil War, Ant-Man 1 can even be tossed into that build up for Civil War.

 

[ctsketch]

Boromir was not a main character. He was a supporting character. There is a major difference. I would even argue most of the Fellowship were supporting characters. Your main ones were Frodo, Aragorn, Sam, and Gandalf. Everyone else was a varying degree of supporting character (and varying in degrees of popularity). I don't think no characters will die, once again. My point is you don't have to kill MAIN characters as the sole means of creating stakes. Again, Boromir is the equal of killing Drax, and not the same as killing say Iron Man.

you're the one that said

Fun fact: Frodo, Sam, Aragorn, Legolis, Gimili, Gandalf, Arwen, etc. NONE of them die! Let that sink in.

Boromir was merely a fellowship character same as Legolis and Gimili. All 3 had the same role in the first movie. 2 became main characters only because they survived. You are minimizing Boromir ONLY because he died and ONLY because it supports your theory. but if there was never a 2nd or 3rd movie Boromir was as major a death as many others who survived would have been. its not introducing QS only to kill him in a movie full of well established characters

 

[Spider-Fan]

you're the one that said



Boromir was merely a fellowship character same as Legolis and Gimili. All 3 had the same role in the first movie. 2 became main characters only because they survived. You are minimizing Boromir ONLY because he died and ONLY because it supports your theory. but if there was never a 2nd or 3rd movie Boromir was as major a death as many others who survived would have been. its not introducing QS only to kill him in a movie full of well established characters

I'm not minimizing him. Legolis and Gimilie would be like of similar tier to Boromir. But, he still is not a MAIN character like the other Avengers I named. We never met him until basically the Fellowship was formed, which was halfway into the movie. He doesn't have a main role. Yes, I can say the same about Legolis and Gimili, which I just did. But, he is still as important to LOTR as Drax would be to this (maybe Vision...but they're of similar tier). I really don't see how this is hard to understand or how this contradicts prior statements.

 

[ctsketch]

I'm not minimizing him. Legolis and Gimilie would be like of similar tier to Boromir. But, he still is not a MAIN character like the other Avengers I named. We never met him until basically the Fellowship was formed, which was halfway into the movie. He doesn't have a main role. Yes, I can say the same about Legolis and Gimili, which I just did. But, he is still as important to LOTR as Drax would be to this (maybe Vision...but they're of similar tier). I really don't see how this is hard to understand or how this contradicts prior statements.

I know, but you contradicted yourself when you included their survival as evidence you don't need main character's deaths to create an epic film. also we didn't know gandalf survived until the 2nd film so again using the theory that if there was never a second film...that's another main death in your list

 

[JOE]

Power level debates, these are always fun...

I don't have a problem with weaker characters contributing beyond their physical means if it fits the story.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I am not concerned about the nerf. I am concerned about the editing though. The same choppy editing from Civil War is back. I hope it's just an edited clip. Because if it ain't, that's not good.

 

[ctsketch]

basically this

We never met him until basically the Fellowship was formed, which was halfway into the movie. He doesn't have a main role. Yes, I can say the same about Legolis and Gimili, which I just did

contradicts THIS

Fun fact: Frodo, Sam, Aragorn, Legolis, Gimili, Gandalf, Arwen, etc. NONE of them die! Let that sink in.

 

[Drizzle]

 

[Spider-Fan]

I know, but you contradicted yourself when you included their survival as evidence you don't need main character's deaths to create an epic film. also we didn't know gandalf survived until the 2nd film so again using the theory that if there was never a second film...that's another main death in your list

Gandalf lived so no it doesn't. If they kill Cap in IW and he comes back in A4, guess what...doesn't count either. Or do you want to look at the 100s of posts in which I used the word PERMA-DEATH. Gandalf was in LOTR 2 and 3 right? So guess what, not a PERMA-DEATH. My point is about PERMA-DEATHS.

 

[iambranded]

7 days until the beginning of the end.....im ready

 

[HammerDown]

No offense - but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE DON'T SPOIL THINGS IN THE OPEN LIKE THAT A WEEK BEFORE THE DAMN FILM </END RANT>

I understand it's a released promotional clip, but some of us are choosing to avoid them. Talking about them in the open is basically the same as me watching it myself. There is a spoiler thread for you guys to discuss them openly if you wish. This is just a really sensitive subject with me.

Dude relax. I didn't spoil anything. I was vague enough and didn't mention any sort of details. I have been doing that and discussing spoilers in the right thread.

 

[ctsketch]

Gandalf lived so no it doesn't. If they kill Cap in IW and he comes back in A4, guess what...doesn't count either. Or do you want to look at the 100s of posts in which I used the word PERMA-DEATH. Gandalf was in LOTR 2 and 3 right? So guess what, not a PERMA-DEATH. My point is about PERMA-DEATHS.

I see you finally realized Gimili and Leglolas ONLY became unimportant to your argument once I brought up Boromir and thus you've abandoned that

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Concerning the score, people who watched movies made before 2005 know that the score being quiet background thumping noise is a relatively recent phenomenon. I am glad Marvel is doing it the classic/best way.

 

[Packdaddy]

We do not even know what is going on before the scene, and it is not out of the realm that Earth's atmosphere has weakened the B.O. to some extent.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I see you finally realized Gimili and Leglolas ONLY became unimportant to your argument once I brought up Boromir and thus you've abandoned that

I've abandoned nothing because Boromir doesn't change my point. Do you equate Boromir as equal to Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, Thor, Black Widow, Starlord, Black Panther, Doctor Strange, Spider-Man, etc.? I don't. Therefore my point stands tall and firm. LOTR didn't kill any MAIN characters. They killed a few SUPPORTING ones (but even there...very few that were not villains). So, IW & A4 can build stakes without killing off a bunch of MAIN characters.

 

[harlequinade]

Anyways....love the new clip but I'm not watching more.We are gonna get hit with such a flood of clips now with the cast making rounds on many talk shows next week

 

[Iceman]

Concerning the score, people who watched movies made before 2005 know that the score being quiet background thumping noise is a relatively recent phenomenon. I am glad Marvel is doing it the classic/best way.

Inception has it booming throughout at 100 decibels and I absolutely love it. I don't think it's as suited to this kind of fight or Spidey swinging in that clip. The big Wakandan battle sure. I don't need the score blowing my brains out as Stark pulls up his pants and puts his socks on. Of course we'll get context when we see everything in order next week and it might work really well.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

5. More. Days.

 

[RoastBeast]

This is movies not comics- I assure all, the GA assumes that Black Widow is not a garden-variety human. Has it ever been stated that she is not enhanced, I can't recall? Because from the time she grabbed that Chitauri and held on, it is clear she ain't normal.

 

[HammerDown]

NEW FOOTAGE. Small clip in the Sanctum.

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKeFKoGszK8&feature=youtu.be

 

[ctsketch]

I've abandoned nothing because Boromir doesn't change my point. Do you equate Boromir as equal to Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, Thor, Black Widow, Starlord, Black Panther, Doctor Strange, Spider-Man, etc.? I don't. Therefore my point stands tall and firm. LOTR didn't kill any MAIN characters. They killed a few SUPPORTING ones (but even there...very few that were not villains). So, IW & A4 can build stakes without killing off a bunch of MAIN characters.

I consider Gimili and Leglas main characters. in Fellowship of the ring Boromir, Gimili and Legolas had the same role....so yes....

 

[Playco Armboy]

This is movies not comics- I assure all, the GA assumes that Black Widow is not a garden-variety human. Has it ever been stated that she is not enhanced, I can't recall? Because from the time she grabbed that Chitauri and held on, it is clear she ain't normal.

Hawkeye, a regular human, went toe-to-toe with her in close combat and was never at any point overpowered in a contest of pure strength.

 

[RoastBeast]

Are we having another power level debate?

So... Jacko vs. Starlord. Who wins?