The Batman Reboot Casting Thread - Part 1

[Tonyas]

Clooney has more range than people give him credit for. If you watch Syriana, From Dusk til Dawn or The American, you can see that he could have portrayed a good, dark Batman if the script and the direction hadn't been complete sh**. He does have a persona that he reverts to in most of his movies, but that's what movie stars do (see: Tom Cruise, Will Smith, Cary Grant, and any big name blockbuster star). But he is capable of stepping outside of it when the role calls for it.

I kinda agree with the third part of your view. He's not a bad actor either. It's just that, for me, the "Clooney-ness" of him is too strong lol

 

[Majik1387]

Forget Pace.

If you want an actor with the potential to play a dark, twisted character like Batman, Joel Kinnaman (The Killing, Robocop) could be a good choice. He has that Bale edginess to him.

His name will be suggested everywhere, Fassbender-style, once the Robocop trailers hit.

He actually does a great job with an American accent on AMC's The Killing. I wouldn't have guessed he isn't from the US.

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Can't say I've seen him in anything other than an episode of The Killing(I wasn't too into the show to notice him). He's got a good look if not a bit too clean; not rugged, but that can be fixed.

I'm liking the idea of Pace.

I just watched John Carter and I realized that Taylor Kitsch would make a pretty good Batman. Maybe it was just the voice but he gave me a Batman vibe.

Yeah, before his turn as Gambit and John Carter, I always saw him as Arsenal for a Teen Titans movie.

 

[Rockstar]

Bale doesn't look THAT cold compared to Kinnaman.

I majorly disagree. Bale can look really menacing and villainous. He has that range.

The best Batman actor must be beliveable as a villain as well.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Another problem with Pace is according to his fanbase, Pace is gay and dating photographer Carter Smith.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Can't say I've seen him in anything other than an episode of The Killing(I wasn't too into the show to notice him). He's got a good look if not a bit too clean; not rugged, but that can be fixed.

He actually looks REALLY rugged on The Killing (so much so that other characters frequently make remarks to him that he should "clean himself up" and such). His character is a former druggie. He was also in Safe House recently; it was a small part but he was an absolute badass in it.

 

[Rockstar]

Reboot Cast


Joel Kinnaman as Bruce Wayne/Batman

Jessica Chastain as Doctor Pamela Isley

Edgar Ramirez as Thomas Elliot/Hush

John Hurt as Alfred Pennyworth

Bryan Cranston as Commissioner Gordon

Chiwetal Ejiofor as Detective Crispus Allen

Ralph Fiennes as Doctor Hugo Strange

 

[Majik1387]

Another problem with Pace is according to his fanbase, Pace is gay and dating photographer Carter Smith.

Can't believe I missed this stupid, homophobic, naive mindset comment.

Stupid statements like this is why posters have an issue with you Rockstar; not the gay thing, but the fact that you believe these illogical fallacies.


And before you even try to respond proving your point, the Casting Superman thread alone had plenty of this same stupid mindset when Cavill was suggested as Superman, from mods who hinted at being in the know about the movie to random posters bandwagoning, and you know what happened? Cavill got cast despite the idiots thinking a rumor like this played a part in the casting.

He actually looks REALLY rugged on The Killing (so much so that other characters frequently make remarks to him that he should "clean himself up" and such). His character is a former druggie. He was also in Safe House recently; it was a small part but he was an absolute badass in it.

I'll have to give it a viewing.

Reboot Cast


Joel Kinnaman as Bruce Wayne/Batman

Jessica Chastain as Doctor Pamela Isley

Edgar Ramirez as Thomas Elliot/Hush

John Hurt as Alfred Pennyworth

Bryan Cranston as Commissioner Gordon

Chiwetal Ejiofor as Detective Crispus Allen

Ralph Fiennes as Doctor Hugo Strange

Other than the use of the character Hush and the Ejiofor suggestion, I do like this casting.

 

[Rockstar]

What's wrong with Hush? I wanted a villain that could be relevant to Bruce's childhood. This way we could get brief flashbacks to the origins without making it a full-on origin film.


As far as the Cavill gay issue, I'm actually not allowed to discuss it on here. Posts were deleted in the MoS forum recently when we were discussing whats going on with him PR-wise.

I'm not against gay actors like Pace and Evans being considered. In fact with Nolan in charge, I'm sure the actor's sexuality won't be an issue. There could be a marketing and publicity problem, but I've seen good PR agents find ways to counter that. Even Evans is trying to play himself off as straight now publically.

My wording of it being a "problem" was probably bad.

But that being said, I don't believe Pace is right for Batman. Evans might actually be a better fit of the two. Pace conveys too much warmth and friendliness to be considered tough, dark and intimidating. I've seen most of his work now.

He might have been okay in the 1990s, but he wouldn't be right for the role now after Bale redefinied it.

 

[Majik1387]

What's wrong with Hush? I wanted a villain that could be relevant to Bruce's childhood. This way we could get brief flashbacks to the origins without making it a full-on origin film.

I just personally always hated the character and his story.

I'm not against gay actors like Pace and Evans being considered.In fact with Nolan in charge, I'm sure the actor's sexuality won't be an issue. There could be a marketing and publicity problem, but I've seen good PR agents find ways to counter that. Even Evans is trying to play himself off as straight now publically.

Who Evans? I know you can't be referring to Chris Evans.

My wording of it being a "problem" was probably bad.

It was.

But that being said, I don't believe Pace is right for Batman. Evans might actually be a better fit of the two. Pace conveys too much warmth and friendliness to be considered tough, dark and intimidating. I've seen most of his work now.

It's called acting. Ledger didn't really have psychotic roles pre-Joker.
I'll wait to respond on Evans so I know who you're referring to.

He might have been okay in the 1990s, but he wouldn't be right for the role now after Bale redefinied it.

Pace was in his teens in the 90s.

 

[Boom]

Luke Evans.

 

[Rodrigo90]

I think Pace is a good fit for Batman.

I just have this feeling that if a gay actor is cast, the media and tabloids would delibrately bring up everything that has been said about Batman being gay in the past, and WB might not take such a risk in casting Pace or any other gay actor who could make for a great Batman. Unless they'll overlook it and ignore all the crap that'll come out?

 

[Majik1387]

Luke Evans.

Thank you. He'd be a good fit as well.

I think Pace is a good fit for Batman.

I just have this feeling that if a gay actor is cast, the media and tabloids would delibrately bring up everything that has been said about Batman being gay in the past, and WB might not take such a risk in casting Pace or any other gay actor who could make for a great Batman. Unless they'll overlook it and ignore all the crap that'll come out?

Here's the thing though, there's nothing suggesting Pace is gay other than him playing a gay role on Broadway with gay actor Jim Parsons. I mean trust me, I looked once I read Rockstar's post, and found nothing.

And I did a search the same way for Evans, and he says he's gay in an interview, his publicist says straight later on down the line, so let's just call him bisexual til they get their stories straight.
I think if they're fine with Bane being played by a bisexual Tom Hardy, they'd be fine with Evans as a new Batman.

 

[Rockstar]

Luke Evans.

When I said '90s' I meant he would have been decent for the role during a period before we got Bale's Batman.

I'm not saying Pace couldn't transform into the role somehow, but there are better suited actors for Batman.

I think Pace is a good fit for Batman.

I just have this feeling that if a gay actor is cast, the media and tabloids would delibrately bring up everything that has been said about Batman being gay in the past, and WB might not take such a risk in casting Pace or any other gay actor who could make for a great Batman. Unless they'll overlook it and ignore all the crap that'll come out?

His PR agent will probably release information about some phony engagement. They'll find ways to cover it up.


And it was his fanbase that believes Pace is gay. He's been dating Carter Smith for three years.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1195855/board/flat/7475089?p=29
http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin/iowa/ajax.html?t=11475327#page:showThread,11475327

These are the hardcore stalker fans. I doubt Pace would come out and make an announcement, could be bad for his career.

 

[Majik1387]

I never said Pace was the only choice or even the best choice for the role, no questions asked. I feel he's the best choice, but if another awesome actor were to be cast tomorrow, I'd be happy.

 

[Drizzle]

I was thinking about it today, and the two things that would really make me get behind a reboot so soon would be if they cast Ryan Gosling as Batman and if they cast Michael Fassbender as The Joker.

 

[Majik1387]

A fanboy wet dream like that won't happen.

 

[Brian2887]

Lee Pace vs. Sharlto Copley is the Batman/Joker matchup I wanna see.

 

[Majik1387]

Hell yes.

 

[Rodrigo90]

It's a shame we have to live in a society where celebs have to hide their sexuality and you get cynical people who make fun of things, even on TV!

But I defo want Pace for Batman. I hope solutions can be made.

 

[Tonyas]

I never said Pace was the only choice or even the best choice for the role, no questions asked. I feel he's the best choice, but if another awesome actor were to be cast tomorrow, I'd be happy.

lol this whole Lee Pace thing in this forum alone is intimidating

Here's a clip of Pace in "Infamous" as a psycho. I know some might think he's a little overracts it, but he can be dark. He looks & sounds nothing like he was in Pushing Daisies and The Fall.
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See? he said in this that he's not gay, so...LOL!

 

[Rockstar]

Between the two of them, I prefer Evans.


About Pace, I like him as an actor... but it's hard to see him pulling off Batman.

I need to see him attempt to play a character with an dark edge, someone intimidating. I don't think he can pull off the badassness needed for the role, as naturally as Bale and others can.

He's more of a Keaton 'out of the box' choice.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Come on, Rock! Pick a better picture than that! Do the man some justice!

 

[Brian2887]

Between the two of them, I prefer Evans.


About Pace, I like him as an actor... but it's hard to see him pulling off Batman.

I need to see him attempt to play a character with an dark edge, someone intimidating. I don't think he can pull off the badassness needed for the role, as naturally as Bale and others can.

He's more of a Keaton 'out of the box' choice.

Wait. Weren't you all about Pace? When and why the flip flop? Is it just because he's rumored to be gay? That really shouldn't matter.. I realize, to some Hollywood execs, it does.. but to most people, not so much.

 

[Majik1387]

Even to Hollywood execs, they barely care anymore, otherwise we wouldn't have had Cavill as Superman.

 

[Tonyas]

He's not "out of the box" candidate...i've seen better "outboxes" like the Supernatural guyst: