The Batman Reboot Casting Thread - Part 2

[Majik1387]

Again, people putting way too much stock into Nolan when he has little to nothing to do with the films.

 

[Rockstar]

Not at all.

We got recent confirmation from Variety that Nolan is strongly influencing all the new DC film projects from now on, in the same vein as Bruce Timm and the animated division.

The article specifically compared Nolan's involvement in these projects to that of the man behind the eight Harry Potter features.

Obviously Warners and him have worked out some massive deal and they're relying on him for creative and quality control.


We had this conversation before. You thought Variety was exaggerating Nolan's involvement in lieu of TDKR on the horizon.

I personally think Nolan's involvement makes logical sense. He's the only one who knows what he's doing at the studio. It makes sense to trust his judgement with Warners' superhero properties, since the studio has failed in their recent ventures without him.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118055216.html?cmpid=RSS|News|FilmNews

 

[shauner111]

I guess my mind was wandering to the look of Gotham City and the portrayel of some of the characters when i said i want a bit more fantasy. I'm dying to see a Gotham City that looks futuristic, almost Bladerunner-esque. I know that was the inspiration behind a bit of Begins, but even closer. Something sci-fi looking and fantastical. Nothing that would make you think of Burtons visuals though. None of that gothic fairytale stuff. Perhaps set it in the distant future.

I still think Christina Hendricks would be perfection as Poison Ivy. I dont really care about Chastain or anybody elses status in the industry or their oscar nominations to be honest. I just think Hendricks fits the look and would nail the character better.

I wouldn't mind Chastain as a future love interest though.

I have a feeling that WB are going to push Robin on the next filmmaker just for the sake of including him because Nolan didn't. And i dont want that. I prefer Nolan suggest NOT using him, unless there's a good story involved. Same with Joker & Two Face. Please leave them alone for a bit. Whenever u bring back Joker, do it with Harley Quinn to add a different dynamic. And the only time i'll be open for Killer Croc, Man-Bat, Mad Hatter or Clayface is waaaay down the road when they've run out of ideas and have re-done every classic character from the Rogues. If they bring a more "horror fantasy genre" into it? Then i'll be on board. Otherwise there's a good amount of other villains they should focus on over the next 15 years or so.

I agree with Rockstar about the Riddler and Vikki Vale. It's true. She had her time in the spotlight, i think Julie Madison would work better for Bruce. And maybe Riddler as the main baddie isn't the best idea but im sure that's what we'll get in the first movie of the reboot.

Penguin on the other hand is a villain i really wanna see. I was saying that for months that a Penguin-Black Mask would work brilliantly. Deadshot should be kept for the Suicide Squad movie. Hush? In about 20 years when they reboot again and re-tell that origin story for Batman...that's when u bring Hush in. He's an unknown to the general audience and you can tie his origin to Bruces. You bring Selina into the story and bingo! THEN u bring back ur jokers and two faces. Of course this is only how i would do it.

And last..Mr Freeze. A stand-alone Batman vs Freeze set in winter. Some fantasy, but you can ground that character more than you think.

 

[Majik1387]

Not at all.

We got recent confirmation from Variety that Nolan is strongly influencing all the new DC film projects from now on, in the same vein as Bruce Timm and the animated division.

And yet WB is still planning a Justice League movie, something Nolan has shown no interest in.

The article specifically compared Nolan's involvement in these projects to that of the man behind the eight Harry Potter features.

I believe you mean the woman, as J.K. Rowling managed to get final say on everything.

Obviously Warners and him have worked out some massive deal and they're relying on him for creative and quality control.

Not really.

We had this conversation before. You thought Variety was exaggerating Nolan's involvement in lieu of TDKR on the horizon.

I didn't think it at all, Nolanites exaggerated it and I pointed that out to them.

I personally think Nolan's involvement makes logical sense. He's the only one who knows what he's doing at the studio. It makes sense to trust his judgement with Warners' superhero properties, since the studio has failed in their recent ventures without him.

I wouldn't say he's the only one who knows what he's doing at WB, especially considering WB isn't just focused on Nolan Batmovies and Inception. Nolan had nothing to do with WB's Oscar winning The Artist, nor any of their other highly acclaimed films.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Warner_Bros._films

So no, Nolan does not have as much power as you think.

 

[shauner111]

WB is planning a Justice League, yes. But Nolan has only shown no interest because he didn't want HIS Batman , from his trilogy (Bale) to be included. That doesn't mean he wouldn't be open-minded that a future Batman can't be included or that he wouldn't enjoy such a thing. He's been hired to produce JLA, so obviously he's now interested.

And i think he means Nolans the only one at the studio who knows what he's doing when it comes to the genre of comic book films.

 

[Rockstar]

And yet WB is still planning a Justice League movie, something Nolan has shown no interest in.

He had no interest in crossing over his Batman films and his Superman films into Justice League, because he said he envisioned each as isolated to it's own respective worlds.

He never specifically said he's against a self-contained Justice League film. The characters would just have to be envisioned differently to fit with that concept.

I believe you mean the woman, as J.K. Rowling managed to get final say on everything..

Variety compared Nolan's new involvement with the DC pictures to how "WB entrusted producer David Heyman with all eight "Harry Potter" films."

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118055216.html?cmpid=RSS|News|FilmNews

I wouldn't say he's the only one who knows what he's doing at WB, especially considering WB isn't just focused on Nolan Batmovies and Inception. Nolan had nothing to do with WB's Oscar winning The Artist, nor any of their other highly acclaimed films.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Warner_Bros._films

So no, Nolan does not have as much power as you think.

Variety disagrees.

And obviously I meant he's the only one at WB who knows what he's doing with specific regards to their DC properties.

The other acclaimed films at Warners are moot to this specific discussion on the DC/WB features.

 

[Majik1387]

I know now he is, but he wasn't before, and that same mode of thinking can be applied to Robin.

 

[Rockstar]

I still think Christina Hendricks would be perfection as Poison Ivy. I dont really care about Chastain or anybody elses status in the industry or their oscar nominations to be honest. I just think Hendricks fits the look and would nail the character better.

I wouldn't mind Chastain as a future love interest though.

Hendricks would have been physical perfection as Catwoman too, especially with her figure. BUT Hathaway is a bigger name and rising star in the industry. That's just how it works.

There has to be some Oscar calibur actors in the supporting cast. Look at Nolan's casting for TDKR and MoS.

I also think Chastain is a better pairing with the specific Batman and Riddler I selected.

I wouldn't have selected her if I had different actors in those spots.

And last..Mr Freeze. A stand-alone Batman vs Freeze set in winter. Some fantasy, but you can ground that character more than you think.

Like I said on the previous page, Freeze can be grounded in reality with the right scientific explanation for his condition and his cryogeneic life support.

I think they should stick with Nolan's "what if this happened in the real world" approach, since Man of Steel is doing the same.

Keep it consistent.

 

[OptimusPrime114]

I have an idea for a new Batman film series!

Would you guys be interested in hearing it?

 

[shauner111]

Like I said on the previous page, Freeze can be grounded in reality with the right scientific explanation for his condition and his cryogeneic life support.

I think they should stick with Nolan's "what if this happened in the real world" approach, since Man of Steel is doing the same.

Keep it consistent.

Now that you mentioned it. Maybe it CAN be done this way, real world characters. But the selection can be a little far out there, some of the villains that Nolan never wanted to use because "he" thought they were too far-fetched for his world. Or the ones that fans thought would never be seen in a Nolan film for the same reasons. You take these characters like Freeze, Penguin, Ivy and you do the Nolan approach. Surprise people, something new and consistent with Nolans vision but not repeating his stories.

I like it.

I still want a futuristic crazy Gotham though

I have an idea for a new Batman film series!

Would you guys be interested in hearing it?

Sure, give it a shot

 

[Majik1387]

He had no interest in crossing over his Batman films and his Superman films into Justice League,

Here's another mistake you, as well as a few others keep making. Man of Steel is not Nolan's movie

because he said he envisioned each as isolated to it's own respective worlds.

No offense to Nolan, but WB doesn't care.

He never specifically said he's against a self-contained Justice League film. The characters would just have to be envisioned differently to fit with that concept.

Just like the now shelved JLA movie was gonna be.

Variety compared Nolan's new involvement with the DC pictures to how "WB entrusted producer David Heyman with all eight "Harry Potter" films."
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118055216.html?cmpid=RSS|News|FilmNews

And yet, he stayed true to the books, something Nolan barely did with his take on Batman.

Variety disagrees.

And obviously I meant he's the only one at WB who knows what he's doing with specific regards to their DC properties.

The other acclaimed films at Warners are moot to this specific discussion on the DC/WB features.

Variety can disagree all they want, Nolan doesn't have that much control, even over DC properties. He's only a producer of Man of Steel, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[shauner111]

A lot of the creative decisions that Snyder made, changes to Goyer script or other ideas were always passed along to Nolan to see if he agreed or not. Snyder came to Nolan, im pretty sure you know this but you just think Nolan took Goyers idea to the studio and that;s it. He's more involved than you think. Who do you think brought Hans Zimmer on board? Who do you think brought his brother along to touch up Goyers draft? Christopher Nolan.

Nolan, now, isn't just producing Man Of Steel. He's producing the Batman reboot. They will work closely with him and he will most likely have a say in hiring the director, writer and maybe more. He's producing JLA. You can bet ur ass that he is the man announced to produce future Flash, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and perhaps even Suicide Squad movies.

Maybe not every one listed, but it could very well happen once MOS becomes a success. And im sure it will if the insiders on this forum are correct. It's going to trigger something with WB when they see TDKR and MOS reach that commercial and critical high.

 

[Rockstar]

A lot of the creative decisions that Snyder made, changes to Goyer script or other ideas were always passed along to Nolan to see if he agreed or not. Snyder came to Nolan, im pretty sure you know this but you just think Nolan took Goyers idea to the studio and that;s it. He's more involved than you think. Who do you think brought Hans Zimmer on board? Who do you think brought his brother along to touch up Goyers draft? Christopher Nolan.

Yup. It was confirmed that Snyder and his wife had meetings with Nolan and Thomas during the pre-production days of MoS when they were envisioning the approach and how to present Goyer's treatment onscreen.

Chris layed some strong foundations in casting and approach before handing the reigns to ZS.

Here's another mistake you, as well as a few others keep making. Man of Steel is not Nolan's movie

No offense to Nolan, but WB doesn't care.

Just like the now shelved JLA movie was gonna be.


Variety can disagree all they want, Nolan doesn't have that much control, even over DC properties. He's only a producer of Man of Steel, nothing more, nothing less.

All in your opinion. Unless you have inside connections, you won't be able to speak for WB.


Variety is in a much better position to know and they confirmed "WB has increasingly put more control of its DC films in Nolan's hands."

Nolan producing Man of Steel and the Batman reboot is just the beginning.

And yet, he stayed true to the books, something Nolan barely did with his take on Batman..

Nolan improved on the books and turned Batman into a billion dollar film franchise.

He knows what he's doing and his track record is flawless. WB has every reason to trust him now with these properties.

 

[Eddie Dean]

This thread is boring me, time to spice things up!

FRITZ LANG'S DARK KNIGHT SAGA
(1953-1958)

STARRING

GREGORY PECK as BRUCE WAYNE

CLAUDE RAINS as ALFRED PENNYWORTH

HENRY FONDA as JAMES GORDON

TOSHIRO MIFUNE as RA'S AL GHUL

BORIS KARLOFF as DUCARD

VINCENT PRICE as THE SCARECROW

JAMES CAGNEY as CARMINE FALCONE

LEE MARVIN as THE JOKER

ROBERT MITCHUM as HARVEY DENT

AVA GARDNER as CATWOMAN

​

 

[Eddie Dean]

SOPHIA LOREN as MIRANDA TATE

and ROBERT SHAW as BANE

with a special appearance from FRITZ LANG as THE PENGUIN!

​

 

[Project862006]

how epic would a gregory peck batman vs Clint Walker Superman

 

[Eddie Dean]

Clint Walker is great, but Cary Grant and Gregory Peck are the ultimate World's Finest.

 

[The Guard]

Nolan drew from the books and turned Batman into a billion dollar film franchise.

Fixed.

 

[Mr.?]

The other day I was thinking who I would cast as The Riddler then it came too me

Then I realized that he is in TDKR

 

[Rockstar]

I picked Ben Foster as The Riddler because he seems to be in line with the likes of Heath Ledger, Tom Hardy, Anne Hathaway and JGL, from a Hollywood standpoint.

Rising stars.

 

[OptimusPrime114]

I picked Ben Foster as The Riddler because he seems to be in line with the likes of Heath Ledger, Tom Hardy, Anne Hathaway and JGL, from a Hollywood standpoint.

Rising stars.

Ben Foster's more Zsasz material to me.

 

[Panthro]

how epic would a gregory peck batman vs Clint Walker Superman

It would have been too awesome for the screen to contain, like Liam Neeson joining forces with Sean Connery awesome.

 

[Rockstar]

Ben Foster's more Zsasz material to me.

If he could pull off Zsasz, he can pull off this version of the Riddler.

This wouldn't be anything like the overly-theatrical Jim Carrey version, or the zany TAS version. It would be the exact opposite.

He would be a straight-laced terrorist who leaves riddles as clues to his attacks. Think Simon in "Die Hard with a Vengeance."

 

[shauner111]

I always thought of the Riddler as a John Doe from Se7en type of character, myself. Michael Emerson's character (Ben) on LOST would be another example. At least when he debuted in season 2 when he had so much mystery surrounding him. Before he started evolving as a character.

 

[Rockstar]

John Doe from Se7en reminds me so much of Heath Ledger's Joker, especially how he pushed Brad Pitt's character over the edge.