The Dark Knight Rises The BB3 Batsuit Discussion Thread

[scatterax]

Here's the best I could come up with staying close to the comic design. it's' cloth/armor and I even put the trunks on for good measure.

wicked awesome dude. nice job. one a my favs.

Nice manip, but:
1) what is it with people and pouches? This belt looks horrid compared to the nolan one. Why does batman have to have the most crude and non-techy belt? Because its like the comics? So what? Besides, the comics one has pouches like those in the BTAS. The pouches are metallic and rectangular. Not freaking pieces of leather. You could find that in the worst tool shop.
2) The grey colour is well.... FAIL. I could use another word but i would get banned. Its the same saturation as West's batsuit. Goddamn! Is that intimidating?
3) The mouth opening will obviously fail on Bale's face. I still prefer the BB one. The corner should be on the lower side of the cheek.
4) Rubber suits may have flaws, but i like the sturdy, robust way they make him look. i really dont like this one.
In other words, you guys (and i mean the above posters that liked it as well) need to take the comic goggles off. Just because it looks cool painted on a page, doesnt mean it wont look laughable when an actor wears it. The colour especially is ridiculous.

I'd rather have a streamlined Begins batsuit over this and the TDK one anyday. Just imagine the docks scene in Begins with this or the TDK suit. The former would make the thugs laugh at the clown and the latter would make them think its a SWAT guy.

Finally, even though i support a full black batsuit on screen, i believe that it doesnt work in the comics and that the grey is just fine.

I'll take my "comic goggles" off when you take ur "1989 burtin goggles" off.

and you might wanna take the stick out while ur at it.

 

[Darlton]

Hmm, well, this is my last post on this. I resign, partially due to peer pressure, partially due to exhaustion. Either way, most of the topics were already done. You were right in a number of them.

Since that isn't the B89 suit, I don't know what evidence you think you're providing. That's the Batman Returns suit.

You're right, it was corrected earlier by DarkJester.

Sure--but which suit has a more natural fit isn't what I'm talking about,. That much should be abundantly clear from my posts. I don't know why you're having trouble with this; it's becoming difficult for me to fathom any more obvious way to articulate it. Look at the decoration for the B89 suit (pictured above in Bunk's post) as compared to the Begins suit. The former is decorated with an idealized representation of human anatomy. The latter is decorated with industrial armour plating. The difference between them is stark; the begins suit represents a rather complete visual departure from the design of the B89 suit (an also the primary Schumacher suits), which is my point.

Ok.

Incorrect. I explained myself twice, in this post. Here are the relevant quotes

Once more, I know you explained yourself twice, but if you look it up, both quotes were made after the one I posted, when you talked about how faithfulness and iconography were important to you. That post was the one you were asking for in the first place, so I posted it. I know the explanations were made, I'm just saying they were made after those initial remarks.

Why would the kevlar tear? After it's been treated with the liquid, it's just like regular kevlar--except more resistant. Build a suit out of it with pockets containing D30, and why would you expect it to tear up?

In the case of the kevlar serving more as a container for the liquid -- which I'm not entirely sure it's the case you're talking about -- the "dry" kevlar would be exposed to the surface and the D30 would still be inside in fluid form. Therefore, the whole thing would be quite flexible. Now, when a bullet gets to the container, the impact shock hardens the fluid, but the kevlar is thin anyway. Which means that cannot endure such pressure from a small area object like a bullet. It would be pressed between the bullet and the hard object that the liquid armor would become, and then, being a fabric, it would begin to tear up.

In the other case, which may be the one you're refering, the liquid can be applied on the surface of the kevlar vest, but then what would prevent it from slipping away that surface? Wouldn't it be too thin to actually realign and compact enough particles to present a hard resistance?

I hope that made my concerns clear enough.

 

[Mr. Earle]

wicked awesome dude. nice job. one a my favs.



I'll take my "comic goggles" off when you take ur "1989 burtin goggles" off.

and you might wanna take the stick out while ur at it.

Hehe, lulz...
The colour of the suit is a subjective thing. But liking that plumber belt on Batman is pure comic goggles.

That would be the shape of the cowl.


I'd tell you what's really hilarious, but I promised Marx I'd play nice.

Or what, you'd insult me over the internet? Anyway, lets play nice.... We promised to Marx.

 

[Marx]

Hehe, lulz...
The colour of the suit is a subjective thing. But liking that plumber belt on Batman is pure comic goggles.Or what, you'd insult me over the internet? Anyway, lets play nice.... We promised to Marx.

That's a good idea.

 

[scatterax]

Hehe, lulz...
The colour of the suit is a subjective thing. But liking that plumber belt on Batman is pure comic goggles.Or what, you'd insult me over the internet? Anyway, lets play nice.... We promised to Marx.

i wouldn't call it a plumber belt, but ya, the belt from BB and TDK is alot better. but the belt is the only flaw in the guys manip. plus it would kinda be a step backwards for him to go from high tech belt to simple pouches.

but the rest of the suit is awesome. it could totally work for a reboot. and i think if it ever gets rebooted again after batman 3, they should go the rout of grey cloth covered armor.

 

[bunk]

Hehe, lulz...
The colour of the suit is a subjective thing. But liking that plumber belt on Batman is pure comic goggles.

Maybe it's time you write a letter to the U.S. military to let them know their soldiers are walking around with plumber belts on.
I'm sure you'll be taken seriously.

 

[Johnny Drama]

That's a good idea.

You wouldn't know a good idea if it bit you on the neck and turned you into one

That's a good idea.

You said that already...

That's a good idea.

Okay, stop it....

That's a good idea.

...

That's a good idea.

Are you trying to evoke my wrath?

That's a good idea.

Why, why are you doing this to me??

That's a good idea.

 

[JAK®]

This is pretty close to what I think a good Batman costume should be.

Anyone who says that this doesn't look protective or realistic enough is lying to themselves.

 

[Saint]

In the case of the kevlar serving more as a container for the liquid -- which I'm not entirely sure it's the case you're talking about -- the "dry" kevlar would be exposed to the surface and the D30 would still be inside in fluid form. Therefore, the whole thing would be quite flexible. Now, when a bullet gets to the container, the impact shock hardens the fluid, but the kevlar is thin anyway. Which means that cannot endure such pressure from a small area object like a bullet. It would be pressed between the bullet and the hard object that the liquid armor would become, and then, being a fabric, it would begin to tear up.

In the other case, which may be the one you're refering, the liquid can be applied on the surface of the kevlar vest, but then what would prevent it from slipping away that surface? Wouldn't it be too thin to actually realign and compact enough particles to present a hard resistance?

Apologies if it just sounds like I'm repeating myself, but I'm not entirely clear where the misunderstanding lies, so I'm just trying to be as clear as possible. There are two distinct technologies at work here, and two different liquids: first is D30, the liquid goop that would be inside the kevlar pockets.

The second technology is a separate liquid (but one that functions on the same principle; becoming solid on impact) that the army has treated kevlar fabric with. When applied to kevlar, this liquid allows even very thin kevlar to stop bullets (where unaltered kevlar would need to be thicker). There would be no issue with the liquid "sliding off," because it's absorbed into the fabric (see this video).

So the pockets wouldn't tear, because they are made of this altered kevlar that would prevent penetration. The D30 inside the pockets would be there to absorb the force of the impact.

 

[jarve]

Thanks for the comments and critiques. I was trying to come up with a different solution for the bat-undies than the harnesses already posted. Here's a looser interpretation of the comic style, the trunks are just hinted at with gradation to break up the grey. And a black belt as requested. Oh and yeah,The belt is a tactical belt with ammo pouches, and a buckle added.

 

[Phaser]

It's by Bane (who also did the brown, ghostly version of the Begins suit; the second picture in my post). He did one other image:

This looks way too much like Snake's Muscle Suit from MGS4, especially the light brown straps and the semi-organic design.

I don't think this is really the one you people are looking for, since a film version of this suit would also basically be a rubber suit with musculature with not much fabric in it.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Maybe it's time you write a letter to the U.S. military to let them know their soldiers are walking around with plumber belts on.
I'm sure you'll be taken seriously.

Since this is a comic book character, i think that we can suspend our disbelief a little bit. I am pretty sure that the nolan belt is very heavy since its made out metal (supposedly) and that a leather belt would be lighter and more practical. In real life... And that's the point...

 

[bunk]

Since this is a comic book character, i think that we can suspend our disbelief a little bit. I am pretty sure that the nolan belt is very heavy since its made out metal (supposedly) and that a leather belt would be lighter and more practical. In real life... And that's the point...

How's the letter coming?
Remember: it may be somewhat shocking for members of the military to learn the the gear they're giving to the troops are actually meant for plumbers.
This a mistake that's been repeated for the better part of a century, so try to be considerate in your wording.

 

[JAK®]

Since this is a comic book character, i think that we can suspend our disbelief a little bit. I am pretty sure that the nolan belt is very heavy since its made out metal (supposedly) and that a leather belt would be lighter and more practical. In real life... And that's the point...

Exactly. This is why a suit made out of a fabric-based material can come across as protective on film

 

[Mr. Earle]

How's the letter coming?
Remember: it may be somewhat shocking for members of the military to learn the the gear they're giving to the troops are actually meant for plumbers.
This a mistake that's been repeated for the better part of a century, so try to be considerate in your wording.

So, I dont like your drawings of the batsuit. Dont be so mad....

Anyway, since you didnt get it the first time, i ll say it one more time: The military uses this belt because its realistic. Its light, its tough, its got loads of space.
I am pretty sure that since Bale uses magnets to attach his gadgets on his belt, it will be rather easy for them to drop off at any moment (no matter how strong the magnets). Then, as i said above, the belt looks like its made of metal, so its got to be heavier than the leather one the military uses.

But the thing is, that it looks cool. And that makes it better for batman, james bond, indiana jones, etc. In real life, i ll take the realistically practical one, but in fiction, i'd rather have the lasers and starships.

One solution that could be both cool, sleak and practical would be a belt like in the BTAS. It had big metal pouches. It would still be heavy, but at least it wont look like crap. That is all.

 

[bunk]

So, I dont like your drawings of the batsuit. Dont be so mad....

Anyway, since you didnt get it the first time, i ll say it one more time: The military uses this belt because its realistic. Its light, its tough, its got loads of space.
I am pretty sure that since Bale uses magnets to attach his gadgets on his belt, it will be rather easy for them to drop off at any moment (no matter how strong the magnets). Then, as i said above, the belt looks like its made of metal, so its got to be heavier than the leather one the military uses.

But the thing is, that it looks cool. And that makes it better for batman, james bond, indiana jones, etc. In real life, i ll take the realistically practical one, but in fiction, i'd rather have the lasers and starships.

One solution that could be both cool, sleak and practical would be a belt like in the BTAS. It had big metal pouches. It would still be heavy, but at least it wont look like crap. That is all.

I'll be sure to keep my eye on the news in the next few weeks.
I want to make sure I catch your press conference with the Secretary of Defense, and witness first hand all the pomp and circumstance such a service to the military would require.
A big banner that says "Soldiers, not plummers" as a backdrop for the ceremonial burial of one the very plummer belts you helped retire.
Be sure to take pictures.

 

[Mr. Earle]

I'll be sure to keep my eye on the news in the next few weeks.
I want to make sure I catch your press conference with the Secretary of Defense, and witness first hand all the pomp and circumstance such a service to the military would require.
A big banner that says "Soldiers, not plummers" as a backdrop for the ceremonial burial of one the very plummer belts you helped retire.
Be sure to take pictures.

You have great drawing skills... but reading comprehension... eh....
You just cant have it all in this world...

 

[returntovoid]

Here's the best I could come up with staying close to the comic design. it's' cloth/armor and I even put the trunks on for good measure.

What exactly did you use for the paint job in Photoshop or some other similar software on the Batsuit???

 

[bunk]

You have great drawing skills... but reading comprehension... eh....
You just cant have it all in this world...

What are you still doing on the internet? You should be getting a haircut or fitted for a new suit.

 

[NHawk19]

Here's the best I could come up with staying close to the comic design. it's' cloth/armor and I even put the trunks on for good measure.

Fantastic job. I think this would as close as Nolan could get to the comics without going to big and bulky foam latex. In addition it satisfies the requirement of armor which allows for flexibility and seems to stream line the suit. Great Job.

 

[Saint]

I'll be sure to keep my eye on the news in the next few weeks.
I want to make sure I catch your press conference with the Secretary of Defense, and witness first hand all the pomp and circumstance such a service to the military would require.
A big banner that says "Soldiers, not plummers" as a backdrop for the ceremonial burial of one the very plummer belts you helped retire.
Be sure to take pictures.

Win.

 

[redhawk23]

This is pretty close to what I think a good Batman costume should be.

i dig it i must sa i dig it

 

[ray243]

Personally, I don't feel that those suit can really scare anyone at all. Under certain lighting conditions, it really makes batman like a guy in a costume as compared to some sort of monster.

All the criminals needs to do is to hide in a brightly lit area and they will get less intimated by Batman.

 

[JAK®]

Personally, I don't feel that those suit can really scare anyone at all. Under certain lighting conditions, it really makes batman like a guy in a costume as compared to some sort of monster.

All the criminals needs to do is to hide in a brightly lit area and they will get less intimated by Batman.

But Batman won't be in a brightly lit area because this is a movie and in movies you can light scenes however you want and the character appears only in the situations you write them in.

 

[mcallima]

But Batman won't be in a brightly lit area because this is a movie and in movies you can light scenes however you want and the character appears only in the situations you write them in.

Flawless victory.