The Dark Knight Rises The BB3 Batsuit Discussion Thread

[Piuchén]

Well, actually he's been wearing a full armored vest since the beginning , the idea of wearing an armor plate under the symbol came about in the 70's or
80's as an excuse as to why Batman would wear such an obvious target (i.e. the yellow oval) on his chest. They said it was to draw fire to a less vulnerable, more heavily armored area of his suit. A rather poor excuse IMO, considering there's a much better and more vulnerable target not more that 6 inches above it, i.e., his face. why would Batman want todraw fire to an area that is so close to his unprotected face that just one slightly off-target shot would likely kill him? it makes no sense.

Maybe that"s why Nolan doesn"t do things exactly like in comics.

I like the Military Liquid Armour idea,it is not unrealistic at all.

 

[Shadow-Guardian]

Okay, I'm done lurking...been a long time now. I need to say that there are some pretty talented and imaginative folks here!

I can see the comic style costume coming to the Nolanverse due to a couple of reasons:

1. Nolan has, to date, incorporated many aspects of Batman lore into his films. He has paid tribute to many scenes of Burton movies and probably done more than I even know(not that I am a Guru by any stretch) in that regard. I think He is going for the complete and thorough Batman developmental experience(IMO).

2. The progression of Batman from Begins(where he needed to be seen and remembered, described, embelished, etc) is critical to becoming a legend, to TDK where he is established and needs to be able to live up to the legend(protected, yet fast and practical), to BB3 where he will be on the lam and need to conduct his Bat-business from a stance of secrecy and doesn't want to be seen as much, and will probably engage in less combat and more detective work due to his status being "wanted".*

* I am aware of that being one of the largest run-on sentances evert:

Just my thoughts....the AA game and the success of the recent movies are intertwined. I can see the BB3 movie following the AA game premise loosely, and visually as well. It would complete the transformation and from there could continue....or wrap up for Bruce. At least the Nolan cycle could be considered complete. I believe the BB3 suit will pay some homage to the comic style, while remaining protective, it could utilize the big cape for hiding and protection. I think something like the AA suit would provide this.

In the immortal words of Dennis Miller: That's just my opinion, I could be wrong"

Thanks for all the pictures and manips...you people who do that rock!

First off, WELCOME TO THE HYPE! We hope you enjoy your stay.

Second, imo, I think they should just keep the TDK suit. It's perfect the way it is. Except maybe change the cowl. And the voice. And the cape.

If they keptit, it would be the first time in any Batman film to have the same suit as the last, excluding the BB suit in TDK, cuz he only uses it for like, 2 minutes. They don't need to change it EVERY time. Bruce seemed to move fine in it, and there is no reason to change it. Unless he's now complaining about looking cooler. Anyway, just my opinion.

 

[MILPERSMAN]

Can someone with good photoshop skils please make that plate gold like his belt.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I think the suit looks pretty bad ass in that pic

 

[MrQuinn]

I will admit, not a huge fan of TDK suit but that pic is pretty exceptional. Cowl doesn't look too oddly shaped there as it does in the movie. Only complaint there would in fact be the insignia...seems rather pointless and ugly.

 

[joshgonemad]

my big complaint of the suits is that the cape didnt drape completely around the shoulders and front. it should be able to cover the whole front of the body, batman should be able to hide his arms and reach for gadgets without anyone knowing what hes reaching for in his belt. the closest it came was the begins cape and even that didnt close quite far enough

 

[MrQuinn]

I thought the closest it came was the Returns suit..

 

[joshgonemad]

i mean in the nolan series

 

[Rodrigo90]

I think the insignia should be like TDKs,but bigger and spread across the chest like BBs outfit.

 

[Piuchén]

i mean in the nolan series

Maybe that"s because for Nolan a huge cape would be uncomfortable to fight, I mean if I were Batman I rather a small one.

 

[namtaB]

I like Nolan's deemphasis of the bat symbol. He IS the symbol when he wears that suit. He doesn't need to sport a large symbol on his chest like a high school football player sporting a varsity jacket.

 

[Piuchén]

I like Nolan's deemphasis of the bat symbol. He IS the symbol when he wears that suit. He doesn't need to sport a large symbol on his chest like a high school football player sporting a varsity jacket.

Exactly, a giant symbol would be a better target for bad guys and reminds me those patchs of some old armys.

 

[bunk]

It's just poor design to allow the symbol to be lost in the suit. At the end of the day the suit is supposed to look cool more than anything else. Apparently they don't value the cool factor of the symbol anymore.

 

[Marx]

I like the way Nolan used the batsymbol with both suits.

 

[Crook]

I like Nolan's deemphasis of the bat symbol. He IS the symbol when he wears that suit. He doesn't need to sport a large symbol on his chest like a high school football player sporting a varsity jacket.

Exactly, a giant symbol would be a better target for bad guys and reminds me those patchs of some old armys.

You guys DO know the damn symbol is still there, right? This whole "it doesn't matter" nonsense is self-defeating when Nolan left it in.

BY leaving it in and simultaneously ignoring it's visual acuity, as bunk says, that's poor designing, plain and simple.

 

[namtaB]

You guys DO know the damn symbol is still there, right? This whole "it doesn't matter" nonsense is self-defeating when Nolan left it in.

BY leaving it in and simultaneously ignoring it's visual acuity, as bunk says, that's poor designing, plain and simple.

Of course its there, that's why I said deemphasized and not eliminated. But I suspect Nolan left a symbol on to avoid pissing off the purists. Its virtually non-existent which to me represents that in his heart, he doesn't want one there. The regular symbol does look tacky. "I'm the Batman, look at the cute symbol on my chest. Kewl huh? LOLZ XOXO TTYL"

 

[Mr. Earle]

It's just poor design to allow the symbol to be lost in the suit. At the end of the day the suit is supposed to look cool more than anything else. Apparently they don't value the cool factor of the symbol anymore.

Agreed

Of course its there, that's why I said deemphasized and not eliminated. But I suspect Nolan left a symbol on to avoid pissing off the purists. Its virtually non-existent which to me represents that in his heart, he doesn't want one there. The regular symbol does look tacky. "I'm the Batman, look at the cute symbol on my chest. Kewl huh? LOLZ XOXO TTYL"

You know you re watching a comic book movie about a dude that dresses up like a bat and almost unarmed, he fights armed men by the dozens, has a flying tank and a magic cape. Right?
The batsymbol that batman has in the comics (the Begins one) is discreet enough. Its not tacky like the yellow oval, so i dont see what the problem is.
Should we close the mouth opening, add some fur around his neck and some fangs so that he really looks like a monster?
And finally, yes its not hard to believe that Nolan left it for the purists, because from what i heard he wanted to remove the cape and grapple gun because they were "unrealistic" and Goyer convinced him otherwise. But just because Nolan thinks something, it doesnt make it right.

 

[BigSams50]

whenever i quickly glance at the suit, i would always think this was the symbol, but then i notice the smaller symbol

 

[Rodrigo90]

Bales Batman was more about Stealth.

Batman verifies that he wears the yellow insignia so that thugs will shoot his costume,which is bodyarmour,cause his head cant be armoured.

I dont think Bale would suit the yellow insignia.

 

[Crook]

Of course its there, that's why I said deemphasized and not eliminated. But I suspect Nolan left a symbol on to avoid pissing off the purists. Its virtually non-existent which to me represents that in his heart, he doesn't want one there. The regular symbol does look tacky. "I'm the Batman, look at the cute symbol on my chest. Kewl huh? LOLZ XOXO TTYL"

The entire damn costume is tacky. The chest logo is the least of it's problems in that department. There was that rumor Nolan didn't even want a cape on Batman. Assuming that's true, would you have been ok with it if it too served no purpose?

The elements are there for his iconography. It would be nice if they had function beyond this fact, but it's not imperative. I would rather have a fully designed Batman, than an unrealized concept of a fully-functioned vigilante who so happened to incorporate some bat-motifs.

Bales Batman was more about Stealth.

Batman verifies that he wears the yellow insignia so that thugs will shoot his costume,which is bodyarmour,cause his head cant be armoured.

I dont think Bale would suit the yellow insignia.

The even bigger and more noticeable GOLD strap around his waist is perfectly fine though.

 

[Rodrigo90]

I know. Well, thats what Nolan said.

Might as well have a sign attached round is crotch saying

PLEASE DONT SHOOT HERE.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Bales Batman was more about Stealth.

Batman verifies that he wears the yellow insignia so that thugs will shoot his costume,which is bodyarmour,cause his head cant be armoured.

I dont think Bale would suit the yellow insignia.

The yellow emblem was designed 60 years ago when superheros were very cheesy looking. But through the years and with the franchise getting more dark and serious, it was obvious that the emblem didnt suit the character. They tried to justify its design in order to keep it, but ultimately it was changed with what we see in comics nowadays and what he has in Begins.
So it has nothing to do with what Bale wants, or with what Nolan's Batman is going for. That is the current batsymbol, the end.

The TDK emblem is the Batman Beyond one if i remember correctly and they probably had to use it because its the only one that fit in that inverted triangle. I prefer the begins one if i'm honest. They just have to put that bat on a diet. It was kinda fat.

 

[Mr. Earle]

The entire damn costume is tacky. The chest logo is the least of it's problems in that department. There was that rumor Nolan didn't even want a cape on Batman. Assuming that's true, would you have been ok with it if it too served no purpose?

The elements are there for his iconography. It would be nice if they had function beyond this fact, but it's not imperative. I would rather have a fully designed Batman, than an unrealized concept of a fully-functioned vigilante who so happened to incorporate some bat-motifs.


The even bigger and more noticeable GOLD strap around his waist is perfectly fine though.

I agree with your post. As for the belt, what can i say? I like it somehow. And hey, i can even use the arguement: "ITS LIKE TEH COMIKZORS"

 

[Rodrigo90]

Yeah. Im just telling Frank Millers explanation of why he wheres the yellow insignia.

But Chris did say that they contemplating on whick emblem to go for. But with Batman being more stealthy in Begins,they decided to go with it being almost invisible. Something about symbolising Batmans almost invisibility.

 

[regwec]

Why would Batman wear a symbol on his chest that nobody would notice? It has no purpose other than to say "I am Batman", which is a perfectly legitimate reason to wear it; but why try to hide it? Either leave it off or make it bold. As it is, it just seems like Bruce had some nomex left over, and made a little shape with it.