The Dark Knight Rises The BB3 Batsuit Discussion Thread

[IBRAH08]

yeah, fair enough loafs

 

[Infinity9999x]

This is by far one of the most ridiculous comments I have ever heard.

I crashed on a motorcycle going 120 and was wearing a helmet and motorcycle gear(leather metal plated jacket and pants).

No, no it's not. You're an extremely lucky person to have survived a crash at 120mph. In fact, I would say extraordinarily lucky, considering (depending on how you land) a person could easily be killed if they were going half that speed.

Seriously though, what did you land on? Because that's crazy man, I mean, I had a friend who was nearly killed on a snowmobile and he was only going around 60mph when he crashed.

 

[Texas Zombie]

Yeah but I did hit the ground after I flew through the air(and was violently spun a few times), and most skiers don't hit walls, they normally hit trees or rocks, or lose control from speed and land in snow, which does hurt quite a bit.

I know a guy who was driving a Kawasaki ninja at about 90 crashed and hit a concrete guard.
He lived, but only because his jacket had a spine support and padding.
He broke 3 ribs, both his legs and arms, and had bruising, but his suit and helmet saved his life(he had bad whiplash in his neck as well).

It definately helps to be wearing armor, it's just the padding that other armors have over plain liquid armor is great for large impacts.

My family is real into motorcycles(and that last story is about my old godfather). I ride with a group that generally goes around 120.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Yeah but I did hit the ground after I flew through the air(and was violently spun a few times), and most skiers don't hit walls, they normally hit trees or rocks, or lose control from speed and land in snow, which does hurt quite a bit.

I know a guy who was driving a Kawasaki ninja at about 90 crashed and hit a concrete guard.
He lived, but only because his jacket had a spine support and padding.
He broke 3 ribs, both his legs and arms, and had bruising, but his suit and helmet saved his life(he had bad whiplash in his neck as well).

It definately helps to be wearing armor, it's just the padding that other armors have over plain liquid armor is great for large impacts.

My family is real into motorcycles(and that last story is about my old godfather). I ride with a group that generally goes around 120.

That's crazy, especially about your friend. And yeah, I think Skiers are at a slight disadvantage, because instead of getting thrown off a vehicle, they're bodies usually smash straight into whatever object they hit.

So yeah, you're right, armor does help, but either way, my main point was that there is enough basis in life for Nolan to come up with a plausible pseudo-science explanation for a thinner, more comic-like suit.

Really though, I just want to see the color scheme done right. They were so close in BB. If they had just darkened the batsymbol I would have been happy. That's all I'd like to see. I mean, make the symbol stand out for once.

 

[sabetoonth]

This is by far one of the most ridiculous comments I have ever heard.

I crashed on a motorcycle going 120 and was wearing a helmet and motorcycle gear(leather metal plated jacket and pants).

You would think your flying through the air to fast to think, but you have so much adrenaline, time slows down.

I could feel the plates heating up from the road, and I had to make a decision to flip over on my chest as I slid(oh and I did do plenty of violent flips, lucky I wasn't knocked out).

If I had not been wearing Leather and metal, I would have died, I had very little bruising and no broken bones.


I recently looked into the liquid armor as well, and they were mixing it with Kevlar(puting it into the fibers themselves).

Maybe batman could once again have lighter armor, maybe not fabric(which I highly doubt working, but much lighter armor, and they could even give a demonstration in the movie.

this would give us lighter armor, possible take us back to BB suit, stream line and adjust it, and theres your armor

 

[IBRAH08]

That's crazy, especially about your friend. And yeah, I think Skiers are at a slight disadvantage, because instead of getting thrown off a vehicle, they're bodies usually smash straight into whatever object they hit.

So yeah, you're right, armor does help, but either way, my main point was that there is enough basis in life for Nolan to come up with a plausible pseudo-science explanation for a thinner, more comic-like suit.

Really though, I just want to see the color scheme done right. They were so close in BB. If they had just darkened the batsymbol I would have been happy. That's all I'd like to see. I mean, make the symbol stand out for once.

thinner armor, wrap around cape, more accurate color scheme.

 

[Infinity9999x]

thinner armor, wrap around cape, more accurate color scheme.

It's funny, because after BB, I only wanted a few things. Darken the chest symbol, slim down the suit, and let him move his neck.

I technically got all three things I wanted, but then they added all the annoying detail, and for some reason thought it would be a good idea to encase the symbol in a dark triangle pad so you still can't see it.

I mean, I always thought it was somewhat silly to have Bruce go on and on about being a symbol, and making a point to put the batsymbol on his suit...but not make it stand out. I mean, it's a freakin symbol it's supposed to stand out!

So, cut down on the annoying business on the suit, and darken the chest symbol, and I'd be extremely happy. The wrap around cape would be icing on the cake for me.

 

[the dmg]

Those same skiers get in terrible accidents, and there liquid armor provides very little protection.

A man who produced bullet proof vest said that they would give Kevlar vests to people and they would complain about mobility, they wanted bullet proof scarfs.

Kevlar stops bullets by having layers upon new layers upon more layers, and the more bullets it takes the less effective it is at stopping bullets.

Unless there is a new material that armor is being made out of that is extremely thin and can stop bullets, I don't see batman wearing a mesh suit.

The things I wish they would do is make batman look more menacing.

Batman always avoids direct gunfire, and a lighter suit would help him do that better . Hell, even his suit in BB wasn't 100% bulletproof, as Fox said, "short of a straight shot" when he was explaining the armor. The same goes with the TDK suit, he's sacrificing more and more protection as he gets lighter armor to help him have better mobility and speed.

 

[Texas Zombie]

How about they use thinner metal plates, less Kevlar, the way it's designed.

As time advances so does technology, if the movie is in the future the better the tech should be.

Also why would there be a controlled microwave Water evaporator, and batman is using just Kevlar?

He could have the best materials in the world to make the most proficient suit he could.

 

[the dmg]

How about they use thinner metal plates, less Kevlar, the way it's designed.

As time advances so does technology, if the movie is in the future the better the tech should be.

Also why would there be a controlled microwave Water evaporator, why is batman using just Kevlar?

He could have the best materials in the world to make the most proficient suit he could.

Well, it's kevlar plates over a titanium dipped bi-weave.

But yeah, if there's a cape that allows him to fly, a microwave emitter that somehow only attacks water supply without killing the people in the city, or a man who can appear and disappear out of thin air, I think they take take liberties and use something that people could believe while being lightweight.

 

[IBRAH08]

All good points. Damn, I really can't decide what Nolan will actually do with the suit though.

 

[MacLeod]

All good points. Damn, I really can't decide what Nolan will actually do with the suit though.

What he'll do is go in the completely wrong direction than anyone would hope for and make him look even less like Batman and more like a typical cop/vigilante. Just wait until he says Superman can't fly because it's not realistic. Maybe Superman will get a Whrilybat in the new movie to add to the realism Nolan desires.

 

[IBRAH08]

What he'll do is go in the completely wrong direction than anyone would hope for and make him look even less like Batman and more like a typical cop/vigilante. Just wait until he says Superman can't fly because it's not realistic. Maybe Superman will get a Whrilybat in the new movie to add to the realism Nolan desires.

Probably not...Nolan doesn't have that level of involvement with the superman reboot.

 

[MacLeod]

Probably not...Nolan doesn't have that level of involvement with the superman reboot.

Let's hope so. However, I did find it funny that you didn't try to disprove the idea of Nolan going too realitic though.

 

[Texas Zombie]

I don't think Nolan will strip superman of his powers.

Superman is a fantasy, I just hope It gets back to it's prime, I wanna feel that feeling only a good superman can give you.

Batman is a crime/drama.

I also hope superman takes the comics and uses there stories, and not just create a story from scratch(like xmen, spiderman), sure they alsways keep some elements, but I hate when I can't see any comic story shine through.

 

[MacLeod]

I don't think Nolan will strip superman of his powers.

Superman is a fantasy, I just hope It gets back to it's prime, I wanna feel that feeling only a good superman can give you.

Batman is a crime/drama.

I also hope superman takes the comics and uses there stories, and not just create a story from scratch(like xmen, spiderman), sure they alsways keep some elements, but I hate when I can't see any comic story shine through.

Wait, you want a comic storyline and Nolan is part of it, isn't that an oxymoron.

 

[TheScarecrow]

What he'll do is go in the completely wrong direction than anyone would hope for and make him look even less like Batman and more like a typical cop/vigilante. Just wait until he says Superman can't fly because it's not realistic. Maybe Superman will get a Whrilybat in the new movie to add to the realism Nolan desires.

Christ, you're ignorant.

I hate this narrow-minded fanboy view that Nolan only makes "realistic" movies. Obviously, you don't pay any attention to the things he does besides Batman movies. Nolan makes realistic Batman movies because he thinks it's the greatest strength of the character - and it is. He's the only character that can be done that way.

As far as his other movies are concerned - The Prestige contains things so "unrealistic" that it wouldn't belong in any Superman movie. It's basically a movie where magic exists in "our world". If you've seen the trailer for Inception, you'll know that it too is not a realistic movie in the slightest. Yes, that's a city turning over onto itself in the trailer.

Please don't be so narrow-minded. Nolan will make Superman "real" - in that he'll give him an actual character and emotional substance which has lacked from every Superman movie so far. Nolan will not make Superman a "realistic" superhero in the sense you're blindly whinging about and I'd have a bit of respect for him - he and Goyer are the only two so far with the guts to actually go into Superman's rogues gallery (with Braniac being rumoured to feature in Goyer's script).

Wait, you want a comic storyline and Nolan is part of it, isn't that an oxymoron.

Again, Nolan's Batman movies incorporate more comic plots than any other superhero movie I've ever seen. Nolan's also the only director (aside from Snyder) to actually directly adapt scenes and dialogue exchanges from comic books. Have you never read The Long Halloween, Haunted Knight and Dark Victory? How about Year One?

 

[MacLeod]

Originally Posted by TheScarecrow;18161153]
Christ, you're ignorant.

I hear hello is popular when talking to someone, or at the very least saying I disagree with your statements.

Oh, and by the way, if you read what I posted originally I was really only talking about looks of costumes, you decided to use what I said as a springboard for your own agenda. That's not a fan-boy view, just mine which you took and ran with the wrong way.

Talk about being ignorant.

I hate this narrow-minded fanboy view that Nolan only makes "realistic" movies. Obviously, you don't pay any attention to the things he does besides Batman movies. Nolan makes realistic Batman movies because he thinks it's the greatest strength of the character - and it is. He's the only character that can be done that way.

Why would I care about things he's done outside of Batman while I'm in a Batman forum? Schumacher made decent movies too but his Batman ones sucked, but why would I worry about the good ones if the one I wanted to see was horrible? Batman is realistic, but in my opinion he played it so close to "real" that I didn't feel like it was a Batman movie in TDK.

As far as his other movies are concerned - The Prestige contains things so "unrealistic" that it wouldn't belong in any Superman movie. It's basically a movie where magic exists in "our world". If you've seen the trailer for Inception, you'll know that it too is not a realistic movie in the slightest. Yes, that's a city turning over onto itself in the trailer.

Again, don't care about his other works. If you're using them as comparisons I get it, but it still means that Nolan has the potential to butcher a superhero comic movie. I mentioned Superman because he, like Batman, is a comic superhero and one of my favorites, and I didn't want to miss out on a good Superman movie like I feel I missed out on TDK.

Please don't be so narrow-minded. Nolan will make Superman "real" - in that he'll give him an actual character and emotional substance which has lacked from every Superman movie so far. Nolan will not make Superman a "realistic" superhero in the sense you're blindly whinging about and I'd have a bit of respect for him - he and Goyer are the only two so far with the guts to actually go into Superman's rogues gallery (with Braniac being rumoured to feature in Goyer's script).

Narrow minded because I have an opinion and a fear of what Nolan will do? Sorry, for me that's based in reality, I wasn't crazy about Begins as a Batman movie and didn't like TDK that much over all. I know I'm in the minority but my concerns are the same as those that liked those two movies. As far as Superman lacking emotion I beg to disagree, Christopher Reeves played it perfectly in my opinion in the first one, emotions and all.

Again, Nolan's Batman movies incorporate more comic plots than any other superhero movie I've ever seen. Nolan's also the only director (aside from Snyder) to actually directly adapt scenes and dialogue exchanges from comic books. Have you never read The Long Halloween, Haunted Knight and Dark Victory? How about Year One?

Read them all, thanks for asking. That doesn't mean I don't view TDK a crime drama first and foremost. Batman could have been taken out of the film and I feel it would have been the same movie for me and for that I'm scared of the future Batman and Superman movies. Having a guy with ears doesn't make a Batman movie for me.

 

[Texas Zombie]

True, lots of people have made great movies, that does not mean they have the potential to make terrible ones.

Even those that have done great good, have the potential for doing substantially bad.

Just because Nolan made batman great again, doesn't automatically mean that superman is going to be good.

And the notion that all fanboys think alike is just plain dumb.

 

[Texas Zombie]

True, lots of people have made great movies, that does not mean they have the potential to make terrible ones.

Even those that have done great good, have the potential for doing substantially bad.

Just because Nolan made batman great again, doesn't automatically mean that superman is going to be good.

And the notion that all fanboys think alike is just plain dumb.

 

[MacLeod]

True, lots of people have made great movies, that does not mean they have the potential to make terrible ones.

Even those that have done great good, have the potential for doing substantially bad.

Just because Nolan made batman great again, doesn't automatically mean that superman is going to be good.

And the notion that all fanboys think alike is just plain dumb.

Thank you. Nicely said.

 

[Texas Zombie]

I just hate when non fanboys have this narrow minded view, and don't accept others ideas.
Lol

 

[IBRAH08]

I hate when people who don't read comic books try and tell me how my Batman should be (shakes fist like this: ).

 

[MacLeod]

I hate when people who don't read comic books try and tell me how my Batman should be (shakes fist like this: ).

Are you talking about anyone in particular? If I'm not mistaken neither Nolan or Bale read Batman comics. Nolan may have read The Long Halloween right before filming but I think that was it. Either way, I don't think they get it.

 

[MacLeod]

I just hate when non fanboys have this narrow minded view, and don't accept others ideas.
Lol

Agreed. I hate when a person is so narrow minded that they think that someone's ideas are automatically wrong just because they voiced them or differed from their own. The only thing worse than that is when they call someone narrow minded, a fan-boy, or ignorant. It's like they can't defend their points of view without name calling.