The Amazing Spider-Man The Box Office Thread

[Spider-ManHero12]

2012 is going to be a crazy year. Many will fall.

 

[Batspider77]

did i hear Batman Begins was a failure? wow

aside from that, the ranking will probably go

1. The Dark Knight Rises
2. The Avengers
3. The Amazing Spider-Man
4. Star Trek 2

and who ever said that this movie has no Ledger, **** you dude. seriously, that movie wasnt built on his acting skills, it was Nolan's directing. Ledger was a brilliant actor in anything aside from The Dark Knight.

Really? I think it was for Ledgers great Acting skills that TDK went from a good Movie to a great one.

I don´t think the Average Audience will give a **** for the Avengers,Cap or the Thor Movie.
So in the end it will be a fight between TAS and TDKR.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I don´t think the Average Audience will give a **** for the Avengers,Cap or the Thor Movie.
So in the end it will be a fight between TAS and TDKR.

That depends. The Avengers has a ton of heroes in one film. One of the biggest superhero films ever in terms of it's size. However, I do think it's going to be a battle between Spidey and Bats.

 

[chaseter]

RDJ alone is a huge selling point. If Cap and Thor do well and are well received then The Avengers will be huge next year. It is still going to be a big movie and it will still lose to TDKR but how it does next year lies on how well Cap and Thor do.

However, TAS will not be first and I highly doubt second in terms of total domestic take next year. As of right now I still see TAS making about 225-250 domestic. That is still pretty good for an 80 million budget. Depending on the trailers and the GA reaction, it may be a little higher or a little lower imo. I definitely don't see this movie breaching 300 million though.

 

[spider-neil]

underestimate spidey at your peril.

* geeks will want to see this and bring their girlfriends.

* the old franchise was beloved (regardless of the third movie the dvd/blu sales for SM3 were huge)

* families will take their children as it's a safer option than batman

* spidey is MASSIVE overseas (grossing more than even TDK)

it will be big, it's just a question of HOW big and that will depend on the quality of the trailer (to get people in the cinema) and the quality of the movie (repeat viewings).

people can bring up SM3 all they like but SM3 made a fortune in blu ray sales (obviously the GA couldn't have hated it THAT much)

spidey is the biggest superhero franchise EVER. 2.5 BILLION and the trend for each movie overseas is UP, not down.

spidey move because of the competition? spidey did 900m WW sandwiched between PotC and TF2 and Shrek

 

[chaseter]

Geeks and girlfriends don't go together.

I am not guessing worldwide...the worldwide market is extremely unpredictable.

 

[spider-neil]

Geeks and girlfriends don't go together.

I am not guessing worldwide...the worldwide market is extremely unpredictable.

that's true and unfortunately trend for spidey domestically is DOWN
nothing to do with quality as SM2 made less (domestically) than SM1 even though it was a superior movie (imho)

 

[chaseter]

As undoubtedly TDK had Heath's death help some at the BO, I would say 9/11 helped to boost some movie ticket sales as well. I don't want to be morbid or anything but Spider-Man being a hero with NYC as the backdrop was definitely a factor. Small or large, I have no idea.

 

[spider-neil]

if TF3 floops (because TF2 was critically PANNED) I will hold my hands up and say there is a possibility that TAS may suffer because of SM3 but until then I wont believe not with the dvd/blu ray numbers, they were huge which suggests people saw the movie and wanted it in their homes i.e. no indication whatsoever that the new spidey movie will face a blacklash. it's specultive nonsense.

 

[chaseter]

I don't think there is any way Transformers 3 is going to make more than ROTF did at 402 million. I also think bad previous movies hurt future movies box office wise. That and this being a reboot is going to hurt TAS a bit.

 

[spider-neil]

As undoubtedly TDK had Heath's death help some at the BO, I would say 9/11 helped to boost some movie ticket sales as well. I don't want to be morbid or anything but Spider-Man being a hero with NYC as the backdrop was definitely a factor. Small or large, I have no idea.

naw, I put the 400m (domestic) box office down to spidey being on the big screen for the first time.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

underestimate spidey at your peril.

* geeks will want to see this and bring their girlfriends.

* the old franchise was beloved (regardless of the third movie the dvd/blu sales for SM3 were huge)

* families will take their children as it's a safer option than batman

* spidey is MASSIVE overseas (grossing more than even TDK)

it will be big, it's just a question of HOW big and that will depend on the quality of the trailer (to get people in the cinema) and the quality of the movie (repeat viewings).

people can bring up SM3 all they like but SM3 made a fortune in blu ray sales (obviously the GA couldn't have hated it THAT much)

spidey is the biggest superhero franchise EVER. 2.5 BILLION and the trend for each movie overseas is UP, not down.

spidey move because of the competition? spidey did 900m WW sandwiched between PotC and TF2 and Shrek

Spider-Man 3 launched the summer 2007 film season and every other studio in town backed the Hell away from them by 2-3 weeks. It wasn't sandwiched between anything.

Even despite breaking the opening weekend record ($151 million), it was still the lowest grosser of the franchise stateside for a reason. The word-of-mouth was toxic. It dropped like a rock the following weekends. Just because the DVD sold well doesn't mean "people liked it."

Shrek the Third did great theatrically and on home video. Despite the overwhelmingly negative reception. Cut to how drastically lower Shrek Forever After did on both fronts this past summer.

 

[spider-neil]

I don't think there is any way Transformers 3 is going to make more than ROTF did at 402 million. I also think bad previous movies hurt future movies box office wise. That and this being a reboot is going to hurt TAS a bit.

possibly or it may actually act as a shot in the arm for the franchise with people wanting to see the new take of spidey.

2012

bat 3, big hit? - no question

avengers, big hit? - speculation. you need to see how cap and thor do.

star trek 2, big hit - speculation. trek did reasonable numbers at the box office and then reasonable numbers on dvd/blu. it wasn't like BB where there were massive dvd/blu ray as people were kicking themselves for missing it at the cinema.

spidey, big hit - speculation. hard to judge how the GA will take to the reboot, they may embrace it making it massive or reject it giving it modest numbers.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

spidey, big hit - speculation. hard to judge how the GA will take to the reboot, they may embrace it making it massive or reject it giving it modest numbers.

Which is pretty much how we should look at this. It's 50/50.

 

[spider-neil]

Even despite breaking the opening weekend record ($151 million), it was still the lowest grosser of the franchise stateside for a reason. The word-of-mouth was toxic. It dropped like a rock the following weekends.

SM3 did bigger numbers than TDK overseas so WOM wasn't 'toxic' worldwide. america is not the be all and end all of BO takings.

Just because the DVD sold well doesn't mean "people liked it."

erm...that's EXACTLY what it means. what other conclusion can you draw from huge dvd/blu ray sales?!! 'SOMEBODY' bought those dvds. so let me get this right, SM3 makes more than SM1 and SM2, out grosses TDK abroad, makes more money on dvd/blu ray than star trek and the conclusion to be drawn is people did like it? the 'fans' didn't like it but in the grand scheme of things, so what?

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

erm...that's EXACTLY what it means. what other conclusion can you draw from huge dvd/blu ray sales?!! 'SOMEBODY' bought those dvds. so let me get this right, SM3 makes more than SM1 and SM2, out grosses TDK abroad, makes more money on dvd/blu ray than star trek and the conclusion to be drawn is people did like it? the 'fans' didn't like it but in the grand scheme of things, so what?

No, it doesn't and you blatantly ignored what I said about what happened with the last two Shrek movies. Because it doesn't gel with what you want to hear.

Spider-Man 3 made a fortune worldwide because of the popularity of the first two films. Had nothing to do with how good or bad it was. It was going to make a killing, and it did.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

okay, it hasn't been confirmed but C'MON, she'll be catwoman.

Exactly. She will walk the line of villainy and heroism.

 

[StylishHokie21]

I'm probably in the minority here, but I just don't see this being as successful as Raimi's movies. Sony dropped the ball on this one. They should have waited a few years before attempting to reboot the franchise.

 

[NinjaCarm]

I'm probably in the minority here, but I just don't see this being as successful as Raimi's movies. Sony dropped the ball on this one. They should have waited a few years before attempting to reboot the franchise.

I wouldn't say they dropped the ball until you have saw the film and how well or not well it is.

Also, how could have they dropped the ball when they needed to make another Spidey film in order to keep the rights?

They would have dropped the ball if they let this franchise go by not making another film.

And if your argument is to make Spider-Man 4 with Raimi, well....

 

[spider-neil]

they say out of sight and out of mind. waiting to do a reboot would have been a mistake imho.

also taking a fresh approach may be a good thing. historically 4th movies in franchises tend to be an absolute disaster which kills the franchise dead. can we HONESTLY say this wouldn't have been the case with SM4?

 

[Ajendo]

As undoubtedly TDK had Heath's death help some at the BO, I would say 9/11 helped to boost some movie ticket sales as well. I don't want to be morbid or anything but Spider-Man being a hero with NYC as the backdrop was definitely a factor. Small or large, I have no idea.

Small factor. 9/11 didn't get bums in seats to have spider-man garner over $150million in 3 days. Spider-Man was a novelty to cinema screens and his popularity is and forever will be sure enough that a spidey movie will never be a financial flop. That being said, I think many people are underestimating this new spidey movie. Sure, there's a lot of competition out there but of spidey's immediate competition, his fanbase and target audience is far more varied.

Also, and anyone can quote me on this, anybody who thinks star trek 2 will trounce spidey domestically or worldwide for that matter is on crack.

 

[spider-neil]

to all but GUARANTEE a massive spidey BO all sony has to deliver is an amazing trailer. to all but guarantee a billion dollar BO sony has to deliver a GOOD movie.

forget about the general audience for a second, i.e. 'JUST' spidey fans and bats fans going to the movie. it would be really interesting to see who would come out on top if bats and spidey came out the same weekend. which movie would you watch first? obviously for me it would be spidey.

who has more fans, spidey or batman?

 

[hatebox]

The question to me is how cheap the film looks. If it was made for its rumoured $80-100m budget (has anyone ever confirmed that?!) then it might look quite obvious. Twilight can get away with it because it never pretends to be about anything more than the love story, but with a supposed summer tentpole blockbuster, audiences are surprisingly adept at sensing a cheap budget. I know SM-1 was made for little money, but that was phenomenon. You can't expect a repeat of that by definition.

With that said, the intriguing thing to me is who wins out of this and the Avengers. I don't think the latter is going to be nearly as successful as some think. IMO it'd be lucky to get IM2 numbers.

 

[hatebox]

to all but GUARANTEE a massive spidey BO all sony has to deliver is an amazing trailer. to all but guarantee a billion dollar BO sony has to deliver a GOOD movie.

forget about the general audience for a second, i.e. 'JUST' spidey fans and bats fans going to the movie. it would be really interesting to see who would come out on top if bats and spidey came out the same weekend. which movie would you watch first? obviously for me it would be spidey.

who has more fans, spidey or batman?

At the moment, Batman clearly. TDK turned a lot of casual viewers into fans who will turn up on the opening weekend of TDKR. While I wouldn't overstate the point, I doubt SM3 had the same effect.

 

[spider-neil]

At the moment, Batman clearly. TDK turned a lot of casual viewers into fans who will turn up on the opening weekend of TDKR. While I wouldn't overstate the point, I doubt SM3 had the same effect.

but spidey created new fans with the movie franchise (8 years) and the spectacular spider-man (2 years). spidey has got to be the most popular superhero on the face of the planet.