The Amazing Spider-Man The Box Office Thread

[spider-neil]

The question to me is how cheap the film looks. If it was made for its rumoured $80-100m budget (has anyone ever confirmed that?!) then it might look quite obvious. Twilight can get away with it because it never pretends to be about anything more than the love story, but with a supposed summer tentpole blockbuster, audiences are surprisingly adept at sensing a cheap budget. I know SM-1 was made for little money, but that was phenomenon. You can't expect a repeat of that by definition.

With that said, the intriguing thing to me is who wins out of this and the Avengers. I don't think the latter is going to be nearly as successful as some think. IMO it'd be lucky to get IM2 numbers.

the budget has got bugger all to do with the return. if the movie is engaging on a emotional level with good action it will be a hit.
how much did BB cost to make?

 

[hatebox]

the budget has got bugger all to do with the return. if the movie is engaging on a emotional level with good action it will be a hit.
how much did BB cost to make?

About $150m (and that's back in 2005), so I'm not sure what that proves.

In fact I don't even know why I said the first Spider-Man was 'cheap', it cost $140m and that was back in 2002.

A budget doesn't have to make or break a film, but if the first trailer doesn't have any real money shots, the audience will notice.

 

[spider-neil]

About $150m (and that's back in 2005), so I'm not sure what that proves.

In fact I don't even know why I said the first Spider-Man was 'cheap', it cost $140m and that was back in 2002.

anyway, we're speculating on the budget. I doubt sony will spend a mere 80m on their TENTPOLE movie. and knowing sony almost CERTAINLY they are going to use this movie to push their 3D TVs (heck I am getting a 3DTV because of this movie). they (sony) wont penny pinch.

 

[hatebox]

but spidey created new fans with the movie franchise (8 years) and the spectacular spider-man (2 years). spidey has got to be the most popular superhero on the face of the planet.

It's hard to quantify.Both franchises have had an illustrious last decade. But TASM isn't beating TDKR in 2012, I think most would agree on that.

 

[spider-neil]

It's hard to quantify.Both franchises have had an illustrious last decade. But TASM isn't beating TDKR in 2012, I think most would agree on that.

true, but that's because more of the general audience will watch the batman movie not because batman has more fans than spider-man.

 

[Batspider77]

Lol...i love how fanboys acting like Nolans Bat Movies where the Holy crale of all Filmmakingt:

The movies are good, but nowhere near as great as everybody is lying and making it out to be.
Spidey will whipe the floor with TDKR next Year.

 

[spider-neil]

Lol...i love how fanboys acting like Nolans Bat Movies where the Holy crale of all Filmmakingt:

The movies are good, but nowhere near as great as everybody is lying and making it out to be.
Spidey will whipe the floor with TDKR next Year.

the only way I can see that happening is if ASM is amazing and TDKR is an absolute stinker and even then I doubt spidey would top it. I definately think bats will beat spidey but what I find annoying is talk of spidey struggling against such things as star trek which is pure speculation based on nothing as spidey beat at the BO (more people wanted to see it at the cinema based on hype) and more people saw it on dvd/blu ray (more people wanted to see it even after the dust had settled).

 

[Ajendo]

The question to me is how cheap the film looks. If it was made for its rumoured $80-100m budget (has anyone ever confirmed that?!) then it might look quite obvious. Twilight can get away with it because it never pretends to be about anything more than the love story, but with a supposed summer tentpole blockbuster, audiences are surprisingly adept at sensing a cheap budget. I know SM-1 was made for little money, but that was phenomenon. You can't expect a repeat of that by definition.

With that said, the intriguing thing to me is who wins out of this and the Avengers. I don't think the latter is going to be nearly as successful as some think. IMO it'd be lucky to get IM2 numbers.

Let me tell you something my friend, this movie will NOT come off as looking cheap. You think sony are going to sacrifice their sacred cow?? Absolutely not. No matter what figure is being quoted or thrown around, this movie will without question will never ever look cheap.

 

[Ajendo]

About $150m (and that's back in 2005), so I'm not sure what that proves.

In fact I don't even know why I said the first Spider-Man was 'cheap', it cost $140m and that was back in 2002.

A budget doesn't have to make or break a film, but if the first trailer doesn't have any real money shots, the audience will notice.

Interestingly enough, that was the problem I had with Raimi's spidey films. When it came to the trailers, these movies were almost unmatched when it came to generating hype, especially for the first film. The spidey trailers were full of money shots and made the movies appear to be significantly better than they actually were.

 

[hatebox]

Lol...i love how fanboys acting like Nolans Bat Movies where the Holy crale of all Filmmakingt:

The movies are good, but nowhere near as great as everybody is lying and making it out to be.
Spidey will whipe the floor with TDKR next Year.

You're in the wrong thread. This is a box office discussion.

 

[chaseter]

Small factor. 9/11 didn't get bums in seats to have spider-man garner over $150million in 3 days. Spider-Man was a novelty to cinema screens and his popularity is and forever will be sure enough that a spidey movie will never be a financial flop. That being said, I think many people are underestimating this new spidey movie. Sure, there's a lot of competition out there but of spidey's immediate competition, his fanbase and target audience is far more varied.

Also, and anyone can quote me on this, anybody who thinks star trek 2 will trounce spidey domestically or worldwide for that matter is on crack.

I am not saying it is a huge factor. I am not saying it doubled the box office but it definitely was a factor just like Heath's death was undoubtedly a factor in the box office for TDK. I said that I didn't know as to what extent that factor was but it was undoubtedly a factor. This was the first movie summer after a terrible previous year and Spider-Man was the big American hero.

It made over $400 million...that is crazy. It is in the top 10 of the highest grossing movies ever. It just had a lot of things going for it at the time. It was certainly a spectacle but that would be like saying that the recession had nothing to do with Avatar's gross. People look for an escape and the movies provide that for a price that almost everyone can afford.

I can't say whether or not Star Trek 2 will trounce Spidey just yet. I will need to see the trailers for both but Trek 2 is definitely a dark horse. But, I will definitively say, and anyone can quote me on this, Spidey won't be number 1 and I highly doubt number 2 at the box office in 2012.

 

[Ajendo]

I am not saying it is a huge factor. I am not saying it doubled the box office but it definitely was a factor just like Heath's death was undoubtedly a factor in the box office for TDK. I said that I didn't know as to what extent that factor was but it was undoubtedly a factor. This was the first movie summer after a terrible previous year and Spider-Man was the big American hero.

It made over $400 million...that is crazy. It is in the top 10 of the highest grossing movies ever. It just had a lot of things going for it at the time. It was certainly a spectacle but that would be like saying that the recession had nothing to do with Avatar's gross. People look for an escape and the movies provide that for a price that almost everyone can afford.

I can't say whether or not Star Trek 2 will trounce Spidey just yet. I will need to see the trailers for both but Trek 2 is definitely a dark horse. But, I will definitively say, and anyone can quote me on this, Spidey won't be number 1 and I highly doubt number 2 at the box office in 2012.

Merely responding to your comment about how big or small the factor was. Like I said, imo it was a small factor is all. As for ST2, I hope it's a good film but I guarantee it won't be beating spidey. As for spidey being number 1 or 2, I'm with you on that, who knows.

 

[Tony Stark]

There were numerous factors for TDK's box office success, and you have to take them all into account. The one thing that helped it was the weak competition it had in the following weeks. Really until Tropic Thunder came out there was no competition for it.

I doubt TDKR will gross higher than TDK. It might have a bigger opening, but it's not going to gross as much.

Avengers will be interesting to see how that turns out. Avengers for all intents and purposes is Iron Man 3, and you know RDJ is going to be the premier star. I also think after IM2, and most thinking it was a good film but not quite as good as the original, so Avengers could be on an upward trend. Because nothing in film has ever been attempted like this, that alone could make it a big draw. I just hope Wheadon lives up to the task.

But the sleeping giant to me is TAS. Seems like everyone is picking it to finish third. Rami's first Spider-man still holds the record of highest grossing non-sequel, and it's held that for 10 years. If this film is all what we hope, I have a feeling it could very well shatter all the box office records out there. We'll see.....

 

[Tony Stark]

Merely responding to your comment about how big or small the factor was. Like I said, imo it was a small factor is all. As for ST2, I hope it's a good film but I guarantee it won't be beating spidey. As for spidey being number 1 or 2, I'm with you on that, who knows.

I'm not going to discount that, although I generally agree with you that Spidey is the big draw. Star Trek has never been a "block buster" franchise, but the thing about the new movie, is it kind of made it cool to like Star Trek. Before Trek turned alot of people off because of the boorish dialogue about trade negotiations and neutral zone treaties. Abrams threw all of that out and basically focused on Kirk being a bad ass, and Spoc being a highly intelligent bad ass, if you know what I mean.

Honestly I can't predict where Star Trek is going to be at, because it was far and away the best summer movie of 2009, even though it made far less than Transformers 2. But it's going to be hard for ST2 to live up to the first film. We'll see what happens.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I can't say whether or not Star Trek 2 will trounce Spidey just yet. I will need to see the trailers for both but Trek 2 is definitely a dark horse. But, I will definitively say, and anyone can quote me on this, Spidey won't be number 1 and I highly doubt number 2 at the box office in 2012.

I don't really see Star Trek 2 as being big competition for Spdiey or TDKR. It'lls come down to ASM, TDKR, and Avengers. Do I think Spidey will be the top grossing? No, but I see it in 2nd or 3rd in terms of the box office.

 

[Ajendo]

I'm not going to discount that, although I generally agree with you that Spidey is the big draw. Star Trek has never been a "block buster" franchise, but the thing about the new movie, is it kind of made it cool to like Star Trek. Before Trek turned alot of people off because of the boorish dialogue about trade negotiations and neutral zone treaties. Abrams threw all of that out and basically focused on Kirk being a bad ass, and Spoc being a highly intelligent bad ass, if you know what I mean.

Honestly I can't predict where Star Trek is going to be at, because it was far and away the best summer movie of 2009, even though it made far less than Transformers 2. But it's going to be hard for ST2 to live up to the first film. We'll see what happens.

Hmm I'm with you on that.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Star Trek 2 = 225 million
Amazing Spider-man = 285 million
Avengers = 335 million
TDKR = 425 million

 

[chaseter]

You forgot the 40th Ice Age or whatever they are on, the new Bond, and Hobbit.

 

[DarthAlani]

You guys are really under-estimating Star Trek, Spidey will be in trouble from being around Star Trek 2 not the other way around.

The first film generated tons of good will for the franchise and the sequel will have massive hype.

 

[DarthAlani]

You guys are really under-estimating Star Trek, Spidey will be in trouble from being around Star Trek 2 not the other way around.

The first film generated tons of good will for the franchise and the sequel will have massive hype.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

You forgot the 40th Ice Age or whatever they are on, the new Bond, and Hobbit.

I expect The Hobbit to make a crap load of money.

 

[Downhere]

I expect The Hobbit to make a crap load of money.

That's a given, I wouldn't be surprised if it did over $400 million in the states.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Agreed.

 

[Iron_Stark]

The question to me is how cheap the film looks. If it was made for its rumoured $80-100m budget (has anyone ever confirmed that?!) then it might look quite obvious. Twilight can get away with it because it never pretends to be about anything more than the love story, but with a supposed summer tentpole blockbuster, audiences are surprisingly adept at sensing a cheap budget. I know SM-1 was made for little money, but that was phenomenon. You can't expect a repeat of that by definition.

With that said, the intriguing thing to me is who wins out of this and the Avengers. I don't think the latter is going to be nearly as successful as some think. IMO it'd be lucky to get IM2 numbers.

I've told you this before and I'll tell you again, Quit acting like getting IM2 numbers was some mediocre feat that most every movie gets. You want me post the breakdown of the past ten years on how many movies were "lucky enough to get IM2 numbers?" You want me to show you how many of them were comicbook movies? If the Avengers gets IM2 numbers, then it's a huge win for them.

That said, Spider-Man has nothing to worry about with Star Trek and if Catwoman is as big of a draw as the Joker then they really shouldn't worry about TDKR.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

true, but that's because more of the general audience will watch the batman movie not because batman has more fans than spider-man.

How do you know? Did you survey the whole world?