Homecoming The Box Office Thread

[Panacea]

Currently $257,015,000 worldwide.

 

[spider-neil]

Currently $257,015,000 worldwide.

Is that good or bad?

 

[Darepool]

It's good, hasn't opened in some major markets yet.

 

[Panacea]

Is that good or bad?

I would say pretty good. It still hasn't opened in quite a few major market, including China.

 

[spiderman2]

117 million is a great number. No reason to be disappointed with it.

Not saying I am disappointed with it just would be nice if it were to end up a little higher at like a round number of 120 and this movie was always going to suffer some because of it being a 2nd reboot and being that the last 3 Spider-Man movies were not considered good. The sequel most likely is going to make much much more. With that said its a good start. Its like 26 million more then amazing Spider-Man 2 did its OW and like 55 million more then amazing Spider-Man 1 did.

 

[Spiderine]

That sequel will be a homerun. Fresh off the IW films

 

[Faith_Cassidy]

117 million is a great number. No reason to be disappointed with it.

It's a very good number but it did drop off a bit more than expected after a 50M Friday. It will be interesting to see how well it holds up again Apes and Dunkirk. If it can manage a drop of 60% or less, that would be good I think.

 

[kedrell]

$15m of that Friday money came on Thursday night.

Not saying I am disappointed with it just would be nice if it were to end up a little higher at like a round number of 120 and this movie was always going to suffer some because of it being a 2nd reboot and being that the last 3 Spider-Man movies were not considered good. The sequel most likely is going to make much much more. With that said its a good start. Its like 26 million more then amazing Spider-Man 2 did its OW and like 55 million more then amazing Spider-Man 1 did.

Can't really compare TASM1 though as it opened mid-week. Had it opened regular it virtually certain it would have beaten TASM2's OW by a hefty margin.

I wish this and Apes weren't so close together.

 

[spiderman2]

Still got China and Japan for this movie to come out 2 of the big places left. China can be really hard to predect with movies and I am not sure what to expect from Japan. Was just looking at what Spider-Man movies have done in Japan

Amazing Spider-Man 2 about 30.253
Amazing Spider-Man about 39.27 million
Spider-Man 3 58.32
Spider-Man 2 59.587
Spider-Man 56.266

With this movie making 140 OS on its first weekend if it has a multiple of just 2.4 that would be 350+ say 100 china and say 30 Japn that would be 480 OS then say 292 USA with that multiple that would be 772 I think that is the worst cause. I think beast it has a multiple of like 3.8 meaning USA of 444 and OS of 532 not counting Japan and China and then dose something crazy like 150 in china and Japan does like 60. 210+ the 532+444 to end at 1.186 billion very very unlikely number though. I am going to say it ends up with a multiple of 3 meaning USA of 351 and OS of 420 OS plus 100 million in China and like in the middle of like amazing Spider-Man and Spider-Man 1-3 Japan number so like 49 million. So that would be 351+420+149 to end at 920 million WW. I think if China can do a little better then expected and Japan maybe the movie can hit a billion. Or if the movie has a little better legs then expected.

 

[spiderman2]

$15m of that Friday money came on Thursday night.



Can't really compare TASM1 though as it opened mid-week. Had it opened regular it virtually certain it would have beaten TASM2's OW by a hefty margin.

I wish this and Apes weren't so close together.

How so didn't Amazing Spider-Man 1 have a longer OW so there for more days to make money in its OW? Also amazing Spider-Man 2 had more hype leading to its release then the first one. A lot of people thought it looked great from its previews. It does suck that this and Apes are so close together has I loved this movie and I am really looking forward to Apes and I am wondering how much they are going to affect each other and there is really no way to know how much they are going to affect each other. I would love to see Apes make like 300 USA and think it would maybe have a chance if it wasn't so close to this movies realease date.

 

[kedrell]

TASM1 had already burned off $75m in public interest before the weekend even started and yet STILL managed a decent $62m haul on said weekend. You really can't add those numbers to say for sure that's what the OW would have been($137m) but it probably would have been close to that. Highly probable it would have bested Homecoming's OW.

 

[iEquinox]

Weekend is pretty much exactly as estimated:
$117,027,503

http://www.the-numbers.com/weekend-box-office-chart

 

[Faith_Cassidy]

$15m of that Friday money came on Thursday night.

Yes, I know. It's the total number that had people believing it would make 120+M OW.

 

[iEquinox]

TASM1 had already burned off $75m in public interest before the weekend even started and yet STILL managed a decent $62m haul on said weekend. You really can't add those numbers to say for sure that's what the OW would have been($137m) but it probably would have been close to that. Highly probable it would have bested Homecoming's OW.

Don't think TASM would have gotten $117M+ OW if it opened on a Friday. TASM made $137M in 6 days. Homecoming will make more than that in its first 6 days.

 

[kedrell]

Don't think TASM would have gotten $117M+ OW if it opened on a Friday. TASM made $137M in 6 days. Homecoming will make more than that in its first 6 days.

Yeah but the pattern of release matters. Most films open on Friday to capitalize on the convergence of the most free time of the week that people have and the peak of their interest in going to see the film. Homecoming's 6 days start with the weekend. TASM1's ended with it. Ultimately we can't know what TASM1 would have made had it opened regular. Same thing goes for Spider-man 2 btw, and Batman Begins. I kinda wish it were a hard rule that they open only on a Friday but alas, it isn't. But given that hype is generally greatest before an OW I think that TASM1 would have beaten Homecoming had it been a Friday release.

 

[Iceman]

It's good, hasn't opened in some major markets yet.

You know which ones?

 

[Darepool]

You know which ones?

China, Japan, France, Germany and Spain, 38% of the marketplace remaining - big markets.

 

[Iceman]

China, Japan, France, Germany and Spain, 38% of the marketplace remaining - big markets.

Thanks a lot! So loads of big ones!

 

[iEquinox]

Yeah but the pattern of release matters. Most films open on Friday to capitalize on the convergence of the most free time of the week that people have and the peak of their interest in going to see the film. Homecoming's 6 days start with the weekend. TASM1's ended with it. Ultimately we can't know what TASM1 would have made had it opened regular. Same thing goes for Spider-man 2 btw, and Batman Begins. I kinda wish it were a hard rule that they open only on a Friday but alas, it isn't. But given that hype is generally greatest before an OW I think that TASM1 would have beaten Homecoming had it been a Friday release.

The effect the day of release has on the full week total is small.

What you're saying is that, because TASM opened on a Tuesday, the opening week multiplier would be much bigger than usual.

Since you didn't seem to see that this isn't true based on just a logical argument, taking a look at the Twilight franchise should help illustrate this, since this is the most consistent franchise ever when it comes to box office performance.

The sequels were very consistently frontloaded:
Opening Week multiplier:
New Moon: 1.58
Eclipse: 1.60
Breaking Dawn 1: 1.57
Breaking Dawn 2: 1.59

All of their opening weeks are within $10M of eachother, all between 179-189M. Since these movies were extremely consistent, it's safe to say that big differences caused by outside factors(like you're claiming different opening days would have) should be clearly noticeable.

Eclipse is the only one that didn't open on Friday (it opened on wednesday), and as you can see there is no significant difference between it and the rest.

So, the logical conclusion is that the opening week multiplier doesn't change significantly based on the specific day of the week the movie is released on. (Even though the opening weekend multiplier is obviously affected in a big way)

Also, don't forget that TASM opened the day before the 4th of July, which further inflated its opening week gross to be even bigger than it would have been in a normal week, like the week in which Spider-Man: Homecoming is being released in. If Homecoming makes significantly more during a normal week than TASM managed during a holiday opening week, surely that means Homecoming would have had a bigger opening weekend if they were both released on a Friday?

 

[metaphysician]

It's weird to see that Spider-Man 2 performed quite a bit behind SM1 despite being near-universally seen as the better movie. I think sequels were a bit less "must see" than they are now in the era of mega franchises and tentpoles.

I think its more that the first one had abnormally high turnout, due to being such a new and groundbreaking movie. Spider-man 2 had better quality, but it didn't have the "Superman the Movie" factor going for it that the first one hand.

 

[TheVileOne]

117 million is a great number. No reason to be disappointed with it.

I think if anyone was expected this to reach $1 billion they were way too over-confident. Marvel works miracles, but it will still take time to undo the damage of The Amazing Spider-Man abominations.

 

[metaphysician]

When *is* Homecoming coming out in China? I can't find a release date.

 

[iEquinox]

When *is* Homecoming coming out in China? I can't find a release date.

The China release date hasn't been announced yet.

 

[metaphysician]

But it has been announced that the movie is coming to China?

 

[iEquinox]

Yes, it will get released in China.

Release dates for China usually get announced about 1 month before it gets released there. For example GotG2 got released in China on May 5th, and the date was announced on April 1st.

It won't get released in China in July because China has a ban on non-animated foreign movies in July to protect local films from Hollywood competition. That's why both other July MCU movies also got released in China so late (CA1 on September 9th and Ant-Man on October 16th).