The Clinton Thread II

[Reek]

yep thats why this isn't much of an issue, Trump gets a small gift... then kicks himself in the balls with a huge gift for Hillary.

 

[SV Fan]

A couple of days ago I was watching one of Hillary's rallies where she said the was going to raise taxes on the middle class. Was this a slip on her part?

She slurred the word "aren't" so it sounds like are. It's a mainstay talking point on her campaign trail that she won't raise taxes on the middle class, but that doesn't stop Trump and the right wing media for over playing their hand on something she really didn't say unless you want to believe it.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-wrongly-says-hillary-clinton-wants-ra/

Politifact gives this claim(she said she is for raising taxes on the middle class) a pants on fire with audio evidence

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

So is everyone just going to overlook the fact that the pro-Taliban father of the Orlando nightclub shooter was sitting right behind Hillary at one of her rallies and has publicly supported her?

Orlando shooter's father attends Hillary Clinton rally in Kissimmee

Are we gonna sit here and act like a guy who came to rally for her is some huge news when we have organizations like the KKK proclaiming Trump as the new American Jesus?

 

[2kt09]

Are we gonna sit here and act like a guy who came to rally for her is some huge news when we have organizations like the KKK proclaiming Trump as the new American Jesus?

BLM racists/extremists committing crimes most of which are Hillary supporters even after a couple confronted her on previously made racist remarks.
Hillary has direct financial ties to nations that use Islam as political governance and you know what that unfortunately means for those countries.

 

[2kt09]

get back to me when Hillary cuts taxes for the super rich and does away with the ACA. Her position on education is really something I'm in favor of too. And she wants to raise minimum wage. All I know is in the past 40 yrs or so the economy does better under Democrats and their policies would help more people than the GOP's trickle down approach.

Well yeah, she would have no reason to cut increase taxes on the super rich because she's funded by them.
I don't really know where she stands on healthcare.
That only leaves education and wages.
When it comes to other policies, there's a reason neoconservatives are leaning toward her outside of #NeverTrump because she's concrete on foreign affairs and pliable on social issues.

 

[Smashlilman]

Well yeah, she would have no reason to cut increase taxes on the super rich because she's funded by them.
I don't really know where she stands on healthcare.
That only leaves education and wages.
When it comes to other policies, there's a reason neoconservatives are leaning toward her outside of #NeverTrump because she's concrete on foreign affairs and pliable on social issues.

She a Neo Liberal. They have the Same Globalist free trade views as Neo Conservatives. They just go about it in different ways.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

Neoliberalism (or sometimes neo-liberalism)[1] refers primarily to the 20th century resurgence of 19th century ideas associated with laissez-faire economic liberalism.[2]:7 These include extensive economic liberalization policies such as privatization, fiscal austerity, deregulation, free trade, and reductions in government spending in order to enhance the role of the private sector in the economy.[3][4][5][6][7][8][9] The implementation of neoliberal policies and the acceptance of neoliberal economic theories in the 1970s are seen by some academics as the root of financialization, with the financial crisis of 2007–08 as one of the ultimate results.[10][11][12][13][14]

 

[2kt09]

She a Neo Liberal. They have the Same Globalist free trade views as Neo Conservatives. They just go about it in different ways.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

Afterall, "this is precisely why Clinton is the darling of both Wall Street and the neoconservative establishment."

In another piece, she downplays that side of her for this campaign.

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Hillary's thoughts on Orlando Shooter's Father

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Hillary Clinton put the State Department up for sale, with top aides pulling strings and doing favors for fat-cat donors to the Clinton Foundation

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Hillary Clinton rushed at by animal rights protester for the 2nd time

 

[Orba]

The Doctor Behind the Dyin' Hillary Meme

Meet Breitbart’s favorite ‘doctor,’ who is declaring Clinton medically unfit to serve. She works for an organization that thinks abortion causes breast cancer.


On Wednesday, pro-Trump website Breitbart published Dr. Jane Orient’s unfounded speculation that Hillary Clinton could be “medically unfit to serve,” referring to Dr. Orient as the “executive director of a physicians’ organization.”


Dr. Orient is indeed the executive director of a medical organization but not a large one like the 200,000-member American Medical Association (AMA).
Rather, she belongs to a small, Tuscon-based conservative nonprofit organization called the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) which, at last estimate, had only 5,000 members—a number that Orient told The Daily Beast was “about right.”


AAPS is a small nonprofit organization with Tea Party ties that prioritizes “individual liberty, personal responsibility, [and] limited government.” Their journal, as Mother Jones reported, has published articles suggesting that abortion causes breast cancer, that vaccines cause autism, and that AIDS is not caused by HIV. (Breitbart, naturally, has published articles lending credence to at least two of these disproven theories.)

 

[summerteeth]

Ugh this is why even with all the crazy stuff Trump does I can't vote for Hillary with stupid policies like this in Time Kaine's OP Ed in CNN.

Hillary and I will not stand for this. Our plan will invest tens of billions of dollars to attack the problem from several different angles.
We'll expand the supply of Low Income Housing Tax Credits that help keep rising rents in check.
We'll increase rental assistance for low-income families, and help families who receive support choose from a wide range of neighborhoods to live in.
We'll provide more resources to public housing authorities, and pair these investments with broader economic development efforts.
We'll support initiatives to provide up to $10,000 in assistance on a down payment for families looking to buy their first home.

Seriously, in San Diego there is market scarcity right now because nobody wanted to build homes for years because of the market and even though development has increased it's not catching up to demand. This leads to higher housing costs, rent is crazy right now. All Kaine's plan does increase market scarcity for the middle class. There will be fewer middle class housing and the prices of those units will go up.

 

[Sawyer]

"[Laughs.] I ****ing love them. I have always loved them. And let me just say this: If you’re a politician — not just in Washington but in business and industry, you have to be a politician — there are a lot of things that you have to do that you’re not proud of. There are a lot of compromises you have to make because it means that you can get this other thing over here. And if you think that you can go to ****ing Washington and be rainbows and butterflies the whole time, you’re living in a ****ing fantasy world. So now, having said that, think about what a female has to do with that: All of those compromises, all of that ****, double it by ten. And you get to understand who this woman is and how powerful, persuasive, brilliant, and resilient she is. Any female executive, anybody who has been put to the side — women, blacks, gays — for them to succeed in a white-male-dominated culture is an act of brilliance. Of resilience, of grit, of everything you can imagine. So, what do I think of Hillary? I think she’s ****ing awesome. Is she in bed with Wall Street? Goddammit, I should hope so! You’ve got to dance with the devil. So which of the horrible people do you want? That’s more of the question. Do you want a pompous braggart who doesn’t know anything about diplomacy? Or do you want a badass ***** who knows how to get **** done? That’s really the question."

— RuPaul answering, “What do you think about Hillary Clinton and the Democrats?”

RuPaul 2024

 

[Orba]

The Clinton campaign has said that they will reschedule Marijuana, moving it from a Schedule I drug down to a Schedule II drug

http://time.com/4449322/hillary-clinton-marijuana-schedule-dea/

 

[chaseter]

I wonder if Ru Paul is proud of 1995 Hillary Clinton.

 

[The Overlord]

The problem is Trump is sucking all the oxygen out of the room and hogging the spotlight, so we don't really have enough discussion about Clinton's polices.

If Clinton wins, she will win because the GOP picked the most unfit candidate they could find, rather then winning due to her strengths and attributes, IMO. She is not really being put to the test with such a weak opponent.

Yeah Clinton is a better choice then Trump, but is she a great Presidential choice? I'm not sure about that.

I also think there is a chance the Democrats will just become complacent without an competent opposition party and the GOP is clearly not a competent opposition party.

 

[Thundercrack85]

She's a bad choice, but she's all we got. Gary Johnson is a joke.

 

[2kt09]

"Dance with the devil" - that's par for the course,
just don't lie under oath in front of the same panel of congressmen, be "grossly negligent" enough to be prosecuted
(FBI director putting emphasis on "criminal intent" when his own exact word was "either") + cover that up, be suspected for pay-for-play...
ie don't get caught

 

[Mad Ones]

RuPaul is actually an idiot when it comes to social issues and politics. Maybe not an idiot, because he's an expert at selling vapid and shallow messages that people want to hear and making a lot of money. This glowing endorsement is proof of that.

I honestly don't know what I would do if I was an American this election. Maybe defecate on the ballad. It's really frustrating that Trump's antics seem to exaggerate the differences between Democrat and Republicans, when actually America is voting between intersectional imperialism/systemic racism and explicit racism.

 

[Slushy]

Meet Breitbart’s favorite ‘doctor,’ who is declaring Clinton medically unfit to serve.

There is a rumor from the press that Clinton is suffering from Parkinson's.

 

[Matt Mortem]

There is a rumor from the press that Clinton is suffering from Parkinson's.

Many people are saying......

 

[Marvolo]

Conspiracy Theorists Won’t Stop Accusing The Clintons Of Murder

The families who have lost their loved ones want the speculation to stop.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57b1ddede4b007c36e4f5ffa

 

[Schlosser85]

RuPaul is actually an idiot when it comes to social issues and politics. Maybe not an idiot, because he's an expert at selling vapid and shallow messages that people want to hear and making a lot of money. This glowing endorsement is proof of that.

I honestly don't know what I would do if I was an American this election. Maybe defecate on the ballad. It's really frustrating that Trump's antics seem to exaggerate the differences between Democrat and Republicans, when actually America is voting between intersectional imperialism/systemic racism and explicit racism.

Vapid and shallow is RuPaul in a nutshell.

 

[Handsome Rob]

Hey, remember when Hillary said survivors of sexual assault "have the right to be believed" in a tweet? Remember when it was on her campaign's website? Well, apparently that's not the case anymore . . .

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...ade-edits-to-campus-sexual-assault-page-after

The Democratic nominee's campaign deleted the line, "You have the right to be believed," from the page on its site, though there is still video of Clinton saying it.
The website originally read: "I want to send a message to every survivor of sexual assault: Don't let anyone silence your voice. You have the right to be heard. You have the right to be believed, and we're with you," quoting Clinton.
The last part of the quote has since been removed.

Now, it ends with "you have the right to be heard."

The change happened around the time Juanita Broadderick sent out a viral tweet about Bill Clinton allegedly raping her.

But, I'm sure that's just a coincidence . . .

 

[2kt09]

In other words as far as he was concerned even if they didn't commit the rape they were guilty of something.

How does that not sound familiar to her "super-predator" remark and her being a contributor to this mass incarceration hysteria?

Whether she really cares isn't something I have personal knowledge about and can't comment on with any sense of certainty. Calling her a racist is, IMO, way, WAY off the mark. She "may" not care personally about most women either, but that doesn't mean she's a misogynist.

Feminism is still considered sexism. And yeah, she plays/played up both misogyny and misandry. That's probably what happens when you have to put up with Bill or make fun of the fact you defended a child rapist you knew was guilty.

What you say matters and the difference between the words she uses and the words T-Rump uses means something.

Frankly, I think she does care (at least to a certain extent) about middle America and I'm willing to take her public service at face value (compared to the obviously self serving life T-Rump has lived).

The majority of people against Hillary get the sense she's very self serving with the amount of actions & statements she has to cover up & apologize for.
This cycle remains perpetual.

As you can tell, I am concerned about her foreign policy and am no Hillary apologist, but calling her a racist just because one "thinks" she doesn't care about issues important to the African-American community is just wrong. (EDIT: Racism clearly extends beyond the African-American community, but I used this as an example as you brought up BLM)

She's a racist because she made racist remarks and siding with BLM is complete and utter race baiting. Reverse racism is still racism.

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Dr Drew on Hillary's Health and her Care

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Wait, feminism is sexism? Uh, what?

 

[summerteeth]

I like how her plan to create more jobs is to increase legal immigration to fill the jobs that aren't being filled because the workforce isn't trained well enough to fill said jobs. It's essentially, we need more jobs well let's bring in more workers. I'm no nativist and I'm pretty pro-immigration, but it seems to be completely missing the mark as far as what is needed to fix the economy in the long run.

This is again while I'll be voting third party or writing in Romney or Ryan...

 

[childeroland]

Wait, feminism is sexism? Uh, what?

Women only want equality because they hate men. And puppies. Same thing with those BLM people. B**ch, b**ch, B**ch.