The Daily Planet Vol. 2: Superman News and Speculation Thread (🚨TAG SPOILERS🚨)

[Gu3ree]

I do think Gunn could stay in the background a little more honestly, because looking in retrospect, I do see a core difference now between the marketing for Man of Steel vs Gunn's Superman. (Maybe that is the reason Gunn removed the 'Legacy' title, so people would call it "James Gunn's Superman")

Because Gunn at this point has done more press and promotional stuff for the movie than the cast themselves, particularly David Corenswet. And we don't even know what the core of the plot is. We knew Man of Steel was going to an origin story. Snyder and even Nolan weren't popping up everywhere to do press. The marketing for Man of Steel was more about the movie than Snyder. It was about Superman.

After 'Superman Returns', I admit I tempered my excitement to some degree before Man of Steel came out, but in the back of my mind, I was convinced it was going to be phenomenal. As a result, I was half satisfied with the actual movie. As the years have gone by though, Man of Steel's reputation seems to have worsened. It was an undeniably messy film with plotholes, overloaded content, and a disaster porn, and carelessly crashing into buildings. The problems that have worsened for me have been Jonathan's "maybe" line, Clark letting his dad die, and all the Dragonball Z destruction.

 

[GreenKToo]

MOS Is a very choppy film with bad editing.
At times even jolting.
Like when baby Kal is in the rocket speeding over the kent farm in one instant, and in the next, clark is fully grown, on a fishing trawler, with a beard.

I remember doing a double take in the theater and wondering where did the in-between scenes go.

 

[Herolee10]

MOS Is a very choppy film with bad editing.
At times even jolting.
Like when baby Kal is in the rocket speeding over the kent farm in one instant, and in the next, clark is fully grown, on a fishing trawler, with a beard.

I remember doing a double take in the theater and wondering where did the in-between scenes go.

I don't know if it was their actual intent, but I always thought that they were trying to mimic one of the comic panels from "Superman:Birthright" where they cut from his arrival on earth to his young adulthood.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Goyer wrote MOS when he was working on Dark Knight Rises with Nolan, and Nolan and his wife produced MOS, so I always assumed that structure was them trying to ape Batman Begins and its structure. Protagonist starts out the movie traveling around the world, lost without purpose, and we get flashbacks to their childhood and their childhood trauma, etc.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Pretty much. They were aping the structure and tone of Batman Begins, while rehashing the story of the first two Superman films. MOS is extremely derivative.

 

[donuts]

I do think Gunn could stay in the background a little more honestly,

There's no reason for that. It's his movie. Directors matter.

 

[Gu3ree]

There's no reason for that. It's his movie. Directors matter.

I'm just saying, Gunn seems to be making it more about himself than anything, rather than Superman himself. Just feel like I'm seeing way more of James Gunn than Superman personally.

 

[king666]

Goyer wrote MOS when he was working on Dark Knight Rises with Nolan, and Nolan and his wife produced MOS, so I always assumed that structure was them trying to ape Batman Begins and its structure. Protagonist starts out the movie traveling around the world, lost without purpose, and we get flashbacks to their childhood and their childhood trauma, etc.

And lost without purpose he was, for 3 full length movies.

 

[Gu3ree]

MOS Is a very choppy film with bad editing.
At times even jolting.
Like when baby Kal is in the rocket speeding over the kent farm in one instant, and in the next, clark is fully grown, on a fishing trawler, with a beard.

I remember doing a double take in the theater and wondering where did the in-between scenes go.

I don't disagree. I think MOS and Suicide Squad had choppy editing. I liked the premise of what they were trying to do with the non-linear story showing flashbacks back to back, similar to Batman Begins, but it was just too fast, and the editing was choppy indeed. Problem was they spent 17 minutes or so on Krypton, and honestly speaking, the stories they wanted to tell on Krypton...there was way too much plot and action squeezed within 17 minutes. After Krypton explodes, the story immediately jumps into Clark's adulthood 33 years later on a fishing boat. The concept was interesting. I liked the idea of introducing Clark's first scene on a fishing boat with some mystery, but the editing was bad.

They needed to slow down the pacing. It needed quiet moments in between, where the audience could just feel a little more relaxed. It was jolting because, I was getting invested in seeing adult bearded Clark's journey (cue Chris Cornell's song) as saw him stealing clothes and walking on the street...I wanted the story to just stay in the scene for a while longer before giving us another flashback. Yes, it was really rushed.

In the sequel, maybe they could have showed us more of Krypton through flashbacks, from the scout ship. I would have personally spent more of the first half of Man of Steel focusing on Clark's hitchhiking journey, on Earth. I wanted more of that. It was so interesting. But we only had a few moments of them. I expected a full-length story. Instead of starting the movie on Krypton, I think they could have started with adult Clark aged 33 and gradually showing us flashbacks throughout the first hour of the movie or less. By the time Clark would locate the scout ship, maybe they could show us the hologram from Jor-El's memory giving us our first look at Krypton. The story could have continued in more flashbacks in the sequel.

 

[dhandler01]

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[dhandler01]

I'm just saying, Gunn seems to be making it more about himself than anything, rather than Superman himself. Just feel like I'm seeing way more of James Gunn than Superman personally.

I think there is a reason for that... it makes it easier to separate this from Snyder.

 

[emielaen]

Gunn marketing the film seems like something a writer/director/producer/CEO would do. This whole topic is crazy to me. I've seen a lot of people say that BTS video got them even more excited about the film. It also just gives them more room to hold on to the plot. It's not like the trailer in May won't divulge a ton.

And still, Superman is up and down every second of the marketing and it's clearly, definitely, about him and his two lives.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I am going to be honest. I don't see what Gunn is doing with Superman to be any different than what Matt Reeves did with the marketing push of The Batman. Hell, they carried that over to The Penguin. I think we got Matt Reeves talking about the show as much as the actual showrunner talked about the show. Its called the "Reevesverse" for a reason.

How you feel about that depends on how you feel about the director in question.

 

[Herolee10]

Now that's commitment...

 

[Lily Adler]

Now that's commitment...

He was smol.

 

[Herolee10]

If their chemistry is anything like the last couple, then we're in for a real treat.

 

[Primal Slayer]

DC Comics, Warner Brothers Escape ‘Superman’ Movie IP Suit (1)

A federal judge on Thursday rejected a Superman co-creator’s estate from reclaiming foreign copyrights and blocking the new superhero film’s release, citing lack of jurisdiction over the case.

news.bloomberglaw.com

You're welcome!

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

DC Studios Showcase sits down with the Daily Planet crew from the new Superman film with Skyler Gisondo, Beck Bennett, and Mikaela Hoover. Hear about their pop-culture influences and how they prepared for their roles.

EDIT: Just noticed that the video contains a few F-bombs, but you can easily find it on Max and YouTube.

 

[Superark]

We are officially a week out from Thunderbolts.

Does anyone think that we'll get a trailer next week? I'm curious if they'll want to have one out so that they can play it in front of Thunderbolts given they are tapping into a similar audience.

For sure they're going to want to have one out in time to play in front of Lilo and Stitch so they can get that 4 quadrant audience.

 

[BarryLyndon]

I could be wrong ( wouldn't be the first time, or the last time ) but this DCU feels like a world where Superheroes have been around for several decades.
Maybe back to the 20s or 30's even.

Creature commandos kind of established that already also.

 

[flickchick85]

We are officially a week out from Thunderbolts.

Does anyone think that we'll get a trailer next week? I'm curious if they'll want to have one out so that they can play it in front of Thunderbolts given they are tapping into a similar audience.

For sure they're going to want to have one out in time to play in front of Lilo and Stitch so they can get that 4 quadrant audience.

I’m thinking they’ll pull a Mufasa/Sonic again and have the new one attached to both Lilo and Mission: Impossible. Thunderbolts? Eh, maybe, but I’m kinda doubting it at the moment since we just got the BTS thing for Superman Day. That part was not on my “Barbie Marketing Strategy” checklist lol.

 

[DCDAVE]

I’m thinking they’ll pull a Mufasa/Sonic again and have the new one attached to both Lilo and Mission: Impossible. Thunderbolts? Eh, maybe, but I’m kinda doubting it at the moment since we just got the BTS thing for Superman Day. That part was not on my “Barbie Marketing Strategy” checklist lol.

I think you hit it on the head. Lilo/MI are going to rock the beginning summer box office plus Superman wants both crowds.

 

[TheGDBatman]

I’m thinking they’ll pull a Mufasa/Sonic again and have the new one attached to both Lilo and Mission: Impossible. Thunderbolts? Eh, maybe, but I’m kinda doubting it at the moment since we just got the BTS thing for Superman Day. That part was not on my “Barbie Marketing Strategy” checklist lol.

My guess is we’ll get the next trailer just ahead of MI. Either the Friday or Tuesday before.

 

[emielaen]

Memorial Day week.

 

[Lily Adler]

There's no reason for that. It's his movie. Directors matter.

Until AI that is.